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Sorry to say, but once I realised how euro-centric, and to my ear/eye, latin-centric esparanto is I completely lost interest.

I don't know if anyone has tried, but something which similarly draws influences from the languages that the vast majority of the world speak would be wonderful.

Lojban

What disrupted the fun for me:

• the rules for articles before languages, countries and their people
• everything sounds the same / easy to be misunderstood
• not nearly as internationally approachable as it could be, though obviously that's almost impossible

I think OP means programming language. Not the languages used by human to communicate each other.

I personally find multiple dispatch far more challenging to use than OOP. I'd reach for Torch over Flux any day.

Although, I really like that the majority of the Flux stack is Julia rather than a collection of Cpp.

Where kind I find statistics for this?

You monster

Currently out of stock, but what about

use English;
use strict;

Came here for Zig too. I never programmed anything in it other than hello world stuff. I think the world is waiting for the 1.0 release with complete tooling and package manager and a solid foundation that won't change too soon. I watched talks from Andrew and what this guy and his team is doing is amazing. It's a small team.

Zig is what I thought Rust would be like when I first heard of Rust. I'd love to try Zig for some hobby things but can't get it running on OpenBSD (yet!).

I just wish Rust's syntax (and devs attitude) wasn't so unpalatably shite

I seriously can't stand that shit but I really like it's ideas

Rust doesn't guarantee the lack of memory leaks anymore then java/C++ does, so sadly not sure if it would help here. :)

At this point, I think it's almost mainstream, and it's still growing fast (and it's getting better, rust-analyzer is really awesome these days, I was there at the beginning, no comparison to today...))

I may be biased, but I think it'll be the next big main language probably leaving other very popular ones behind it in the coming decade (Entry barrier and ease of use got much better over the last couple years, and the future sounds exciting with stuff like this)

Elixir is such a beautifully designed language, my favorite language BY FAR.

(I want an Elixir job too 🥹 )

Interesting!
I see OCaml with rust syntax, for the web, which checks out the project goal of bringing functional patterns to everyday programmers.

One of the most exciting things about Grain is that it compiles to WebAssembly.

That's a cool feature.

What is the particularity that you talked about?
In my point of view it looks like JS/TS with arrow functions. 😁

Could you give some examples of what you like so much?

Until recently I never heard of crystal. There is a humble bundle for programming that includes a crystal book. That was the first time I heard of it.

I will have to take a look at the language. Who knows when having knowledge of crystal will be useful

I'd be interested in hearing what it is about the language that has gotten you so excited about it.

Obligatory shoutout

!crystal_lang@lemmy.ml

What could be the "killer app" for Crystal is an equivalent of Rails, since its syntax attempts to be very similar to Ruby. Even supposing it maintains all of Rails' inefficiencies, if it "just works" and has a very small learning curve for RoR veterans, adoption could grow steadily

(defun clever-comment (comment) (if (equal (count-parentheses comment) (* 2 (count-letters ’LISP))) ’Clever ’Not-Clever))

It's a pity there is not 1 code example on the Front Page. I spent a few minutes trying to find a page with some code and all I found was Why, Why Not, what is different etc and not any code examples so I am out. Look at Zig within seconds I can see if I like the syntax, does it make sense to me. I would love to know what Pony lang looks like. I might like it but it seems like

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !ada@programming.dev

WebAssembly.

I think the problem is that processors can have slightly different instruction sets, possibly less likely with ARM and RISC (Reduced Instruction, after all), and how they interpret bits and jumps (big endian, low endian). Chibi Akumas has a lot of material for learning assembly of various CPUs, including older ones like 68k and 6502, something I'm doing on and off once in a while

I really enjoyed Clojure in uni but i have no reason to use it in my day to day work

Would you say Go is popular enough to be called mainstream?

I actually bought the second edition of Mastering Nim paperback the other day! Should be arriving tomorrow, hopefully.

I had fun dogfooding my interview problem in it, I feel like it's basically step forward as far as modern syntaxes go.

Completely agree. Unfortunately Apple will need to start treating Swift on non-Apple platforms as a first class citizen for it to achieve any sort of wider popular use.

When Lattner left, it was a signal that they were unlikely to ever move in that direction. Since then, I'd say they've moved further away if anything. They certainly made a hell of mess introducing SwiftUI and Combine (though glad to say things have recovered significantly since then).

Wow, that looks really nice!

I use Lua for PICO-8 stuff and it works well enough, but certain parts are just needlessly clumsy to me.

Looks like TIC-80 supports wren. Might have to give that a try sometime!

most of the apps written in Klingon would have the "today is a good day to die" directive, which means no exception handling at all and bringing the whole OS down in glory if needed

There are some concatenative-related discord links in the sidebar of https://programming.dev/c/concatenative you may or may not be able to stand.

Anyway answering the main post: Factor (stack/concatenative), Nim, Roc, Zsh

If you like Haskell but desire better tooling, you might consider checking out Lean4.

An alternative to regex sounds interesting, too bad their site lacks proper examples and, more importantly, side by side examples of equivalent regex, that's the best way to sell such an idea.

Tanks for this, first time I learn about Rosie, seems promising.

I love perl. It feels like I'm just writing exactly what I'm thinking. But then when I go to read it, I get the horrific feeling that jesus christ, this is how I think?!

Gross.

Inform 7 is the closest I'm aware of, for creating text adventure games.

Honestly, I prefer the control that comes with a more syntactically consistent grammar, but I definitely see a use-case for a higher level tool for non-programmers, or for prototyping.

If AI ever solves the DWYM problem, we're in trouble. Fortunately, it'll probably solve it the way a programmer does.

I was going to say lojban but this works too

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Please no

“Hi computer! Write me a program that make money. I must just run it and I become rich.”

I don't know why you're being downvoted, but this could truly be the future of programming languages. We don't have to manually compile everything to assembly today, do we? Imagine simply using English for pseudocode, with an AI compiler that writes the most performant code.... How much would that speed up development time? Noone would need to know different languages.... The learning curve for programming relatively basic shit would be low.

I dunno, but I've seen a lot of unecessary hate for AI in the left leaning communities....