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Well actually....
An oven is something you put food in to cook by heating the air inside of it.
A range is the burner portion.
A stove is a combination of the two.
Yes this is pedantic and I agree that they're often used interchangeably
I had already narrowed the size down to a smallish (I forgot what I used for comparison) electronic cooking appliance so a full oven was already out. "Toaster oven" was negative, so I tried microwave oven route instead.
I thought I was done when I guessed oven, but there was no clear feedback saying I won. Went to the comments for the actual answer.
So my feedback: fun game! If possible, perhaps add something like "very close" if you guess something that's almost the answer but not quite. Or oven could have just been wrong, since that wasn't the actual answer.
It said that it wasn't bigger than a housecat. That threw me off.
You know, I had the same thought of asking if it was bigger than something, and this happened:
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I was actually a little disappointed I didn't get to play more!
Clearly you meant a cat as big as a house.
Y'all gotta put spoiler tags on your shit
I thought it was broken, because I asked if it was an oven, and it said yes... And then nothing. Just a bit confusing to people who don't understand AI and fuzzy answers.
I asked if it was an oven, and it said yes,
I'm hesitant to say that the current word is a bad choice, but it feels far too specific to me. I'm curious what questions one could ask after finding out that it's a type of f___ that would lead to the exact type of f___ that it is.
Again, I'm hesitant to criticize the decision, because it's entirely possible that I'm just dumb and gave up too soon
I'd rate this one "black diamond" level for sure.
My Questions
is it alive? 👍
is it an animal? 👍
is it a land animal? 👎
is it a salt water fish? 👍
is it a tropical fish? 👍
is it commonly consumed in America? 👎
is it a common fish in home aquariums? 👎
is it a common fish in public aquariums? 👍
does it have a distinct color? 🤷♂️
is it larger than a bread box? 👎
is it a keystone species? 🤷♂️
is it a character in the movie Finding Nemo? 👍
Is it larger than one foot in length? 👎
does it have unique characteristics that differentiate it from other fish? 👍
is it a clown fish? 👎
is it an angler fish? 👎
is it a deep sea fish? 👎
is it a seahorse? ⭐
Agreed. I narrowed it down to a small species of ocean fish that was featured in Finding Nemo, but couldn't figure out how to pin down a specific species.
I feel the same way to be honest, with the current question I did it all the way through and I was at odds end of what I could ask it aside from just straight out asking if it's a specific type, third question in was the exact one that you spoilered out and yet I wasn't even able to get a general ballpark of what it was in the next 17 questions.
Lmao I got the answer 11 questions in, but because I called it a "microwave oven" instead of just a microwave, it didn't count as correct until I asked "is it a microwave?" for my last question
We've implemented a fix to make it more lenient. Sometimes the synonyms and spellings catch us off guard ("raccoon" vs "racoon"), but we should have known about this one! Sorry about that.
I had fun anyway, and ain't playing competitively. Long as I know I got it right, I'm happy!
I agree, but I definitely had microwaves in my classrooms (small school, we would eat in classrooms).
I came as far as asking: is it an oven 👍 Then: is it a stove 👎 Then wtf is it???
I never in my life have considered a microwave to be an oven, but obviously it is. I've never had one, so I have limited experience with it.
You do know microwave is short for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven](Microwave Oven?)
Yeah, but it can also be a type of radio wave
I got a no for can you hold it so I was sure it was a normal oven. You can definitely hold a microwave they're not that big 🤣
I got a yes for can you carry it...
Apparently microwaves aren't made of metal >:(
I asked if it contained at least 30% metal
I asked that as well
i made the mistake of checking the comments before playing so...
try it today! quite fun.
Oooh this is a cool concept, thanks for sharing! I'll add it to my rotation of stuff to play on my conmute.
I threw some weird questions here and there to see if it had issues, it didn't know how to answer either of these:
-Does its name start with a vowel?
-Does its name have less than ten letters?
Although that might have been due to my clumsy wording.
LLMs tend to perform poorly with questions about linguistic characteristics of words. We have tuned responses to gently discourage questions like that. We also feel that they're kind of "cheating" at this sort of game. :)
Glad you enjoy it!
I asked the same question (does it start with a vowel) and agree that it shouldn't answer even if it could but I have a suggestion: use a different emoji than the "I don't know" one to mean "that's kinda cheating"
We also feel that they’re kind of “cheating” at this sort of game.
Hehehehehehe that is true, I'll play fair instead of trying to see what it lets me get away with. Well, most days at least.
Haven't tried using llm for this kind of stuff so it's very interesting to see where its limits lie
There's a cool one called chronogram that has an AI pretending to be an historical figure. You basically have a conversation to figure out who they are. It's pretty cool, but now it requires you to sign up or use a Google account, which is a bummer
but now it requires you to sign up or use a Google account, which is a bummer
Aaagh I saw, what a shame. Sounds like a cool concept, but I can't be arsed to sign up with my Google or Discord accounts for a daily thing even if it gave a free budgie
I asked
"Is it living" 👎
"Is it larger than a microwave?" Wow you got it!
I would consider the answer to that question a no, not a "You solved it!" A microwave is not larger than a microwave.
Edit: They updated the game to make it more lenient after people guessing microwave over didn't get it. It's too lenient now though, in my opinion.
Similar but I thought it worked around it another way lol. I asked if it was smaller than a refrigerator (y) and larger than a toaster (y). I arrived at it being an appliance in the kitchen, so I thought it just said yes for the first one and it was a refrigerator. I was sad when it wasn't lol
I've eaten it, if you shoot it you have to clean it and eat it. It's a rule.
The AI seemed to struggle with scientific names for #19.
The question ::: spoiler spoiler "Is it in the Actinopterygii class?" ::: was answered as no, though the correct answer should have been yes.
Nice. I got 17 and I would debate the size of that versus a bread box. Still got pretty much everything else right
It’s a really cool concept! Not much to improve regarding the UI. One small thing is, I found the thumbs up or down a bit less intuitive than seeing the answer spelled out
The word for me was seahorse, but when I asked it if it had scales the game answered yes. Seahorses do not have scales.
FWIW - I had just asked the same and it said no!
Thanks for finding this issue. Our "cheater buster" was a bit overzealous about the first question, but it's a legitimate non-cheating question so we've made an exception. It should work in the future. The second question was "no" probably because the word itself isn't in the plural form. The question "is there more than one of them in the world?" is functionally equivalent and works around this quirk.
Cheers! I wasn't sure whether if would recognise human as a mammal i.e. animal, hence the "/". Will have another go another day! :)
All the answers were correct in my case.
Is it living?👎
Is it large?👎
Is it edible?👎
Is it round?👎
Is it electronic?👍
Is it a phone?👎
Is it a computer?👎
Does it fit in one hand?👎
Is it used in homes?👍
Is it used in kitchens?👍
Is it a blender?👎
Is it an appliance?👍
Is it for washing?👎
Is it for cooking?👍
Is it a stove?👎
Is it a toaster?👎
Is it a microwave? Solved
I got 17 and I think it was a bat, but I don't know because once I answered bat, the game quickly threw me to the main screen with no feedback, but it definitely wasn't my last question.
Server resets at 00:00 UTC. If you had the page open before that time and tried to ask a question, it refreshes the page so that the server isn't (unbeknownst to you) suddenly answering questions about a different word. We'll try to add something to handle that transition better in the future. Sorry about that!
Well in this case the instructions specifically say to avoid those kinds of questions.
It said you couldn't throw it, so that threw me off. Pun intended.
I dunno how difficult to implement this might be, but it ought to be cognizant of Linnaean taxonomy. I just had one where the word was seahorse, but the bot claimed it was not a ray-finned fish.
it really said a microwave should be used to cook fish, i cant believe this
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Got it pretty fast!
Get wrecked (/s)
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My second question was "Is it larger than a microwave" and it gave it to me. Sorta BS tbh. Idk if I'd have ever gotten it if it'd answered that question as "no" like it should've.
Edit: They updated it to make it more lenient. Imo too lenient.
But just because something existed before the Internet doesn't mean it doesn't still exist now. You say you're using pre-90s expectations, but it's a modern object still - so why would that help at all?
I asked >Is it finned? And got no for an answer.
Word was a seahorse. I narrowed it down to saltwater fish and asked if it had teeth and it replied thumbs up. Seahorse doesn't have teeth, son
It is interesting, but with weird quirks.
It is definitely capable of responding with 🤷♂️, but neglects to do so in some expected areas.
"does it use a microprocessor?" 👍 "was it invented before 1970?" 👍
These are somewhat contradictory. No microwave in 1946-1971 could have had a microprocessor. If the answer is "sometimes yes, sometimes no" then 🤷♂️ is probably best.
Well, both are true though for microwaves as we know them right now.
So if the answer is yes and no (conditional versus a universal property of the thing), you always answer yes? I would consider that strange, but as long as it is applied consistently then I suppose it is fine.
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