What's your solution to end all wars?

3 years ago by szczur to c/nostupidquestions

What are your ideas, that if you could implement would likely stop our species from warring so much?

I'm asking for a reasonable ones, but if not - at least make them funny :P

NewDark 35 points 3 years ago

Restructure society to value cooperatation over competition.

Break down unjustifiable hierarchies where possible and reasonable. The flatter the power structure is without sacrificing much in the way of efficiency, the better.

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torres 8 points 3 years ago

I feel like this is the way. It's more or less the idea with the EU, and I would say it's working great. I just hope this level of cooperation reaches the whole world

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Kaladin_Stormblessed 2 points 3 years ago

Agreed. This won’t work 100% but it’s probably the closest we can get.

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JesusTheCarpenter 1 point 3 years ago

Essentially it means removing religions.

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szczur 1 point 3 years ago

That's my type if I had to answer that.

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redballooon 22 points 3 years ago

Rename to “armed conflict” or “special military operations”

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RIotingPacifist 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 650294 655354, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
Colt420 15 points 3 years ago

How about massive free psychedelic doses?

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kluevo 14 points 3 years ago

This is something my old history teacher once mentioned: we have games like COD and other esports titles. Just have all conflicts resolved via virtual combat instead of in real world violence

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Tagger 20 points 3 years ago

But that would require the loser to accept the loss.

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pancakes 4 points 3 years ago

The equivalent to someone losing and breaking their controller in this scenario is them invading the other country.

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ivanafterall 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, now instead of a controller launched at an expensive TV after rage-quitting, you've got ICBMs flying after Biden gets Putin with the Last Stand + Martyrdom perk combo.

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T156 13 points 3 years ago

Make everyone bulletproof and bombproof. If it is no longer possible to kill people using weapons of war, then there will no longer be a point to fighting the wars. Either that, or things will escalate to a point where it is no longer sustainable to fight wars that way, also solving it. Mind control, or gelatinising everyone into a singular hivemind is also an option.


Somewhat more realistically, I think that exchanges and the internet are the ways to go when it comes to ending wars. It's a lot harder to fight wars when you can empathise with the other side, and see them as your peers. It's one of the reasons why soldiers who took part in the Christmas Armistice were shuffled around, since they became friendly during the ceasefire, and would be less wanting to fire weapons on the friends that they made.

A lot of wars tend to centre around dehumnaising the other side, and treating them as the "enemy". Allowing people to co-operate and communicate mutually makes it a lot harder for that to take place, since you have experience with the "enemy", they're not that bad. You've even got friends there, and training a gun on them with the expectation and desire to turn them into a corpse is just not on.

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zloubida 1 point 3 years ago

Allowing people to co-operate and communicate mutually makes it a lot harder for that to take place, since you have experience with the “enemy”, they’re not that bad.

That's why I believe Esperanto, while evidently not enough by itself, is a necessary tool in the fight for world peace.

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szczur 1 point 3 years ago

I love that comment.

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Criton 13 points 3 years ago

The complete extinction of the human race

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eatthecake 4 points 3 years ago

Through evolution or genetic engineering

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kurogane 0 points 3 years ago

I agree with genetics engineering as the answer.
Our DNA has greed, power tripping, paranoia etc. hard coded somewhere. The correct combinations might stop all wars.
But all in all, wouldn't it make humanity dull and unsatisfied? I wonder.

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eatthecake 5 points 3 years ago

What if we genetically engineered ourselves to make beans taste like lasagna and kindness feel as satisfying as getting a promotion?

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kurogane 1 point 3 years ago

I'd argue that humanity is humanity and we wouldn't remove its complex emotions, philosophical wonders and existential dread.
Desire for more out of life, search of meaning, etc.
Unless we go all the way and engineer ever flowing euphoria from birth to death, for everyone. But then, what's even the point?

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Kaladin_Stormblessed 2 points 3 years ago

at what point is that just eugenics tho

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kurogane 1 point 3 years ago

Eugenics is often conflated with "selective breeding", which is pretty justified, given all the derives from the twentieth century.
Today, whether we should include CRISPR and so under the umbrella of eugenics is still open for debate.
The term of Transhumanism may be more relevant in this specific topic, as for Wikipedia's definition,

Transhumanism is a philosophical and intellectual movement which advocates the enhancement of the human condition by developing and making widely available sophisticated technologies that can greatly enhance longevity and cognition.

On a personal note I think that all in all, defining what are the " good genes to add, remove, or keep" in the human pool is definitely a delicate matter, 100% biased by our cultural differences and steps fully in the endless philosophical field.

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flambonkscious 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I'm with this guy

I think if we had someone with charisma start a suicide cult, things would generally improve... I'm Trevor to make a Joe gRogan joke, but I'm actually at least half-serious

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onionbaggage 13 points 3 years ago

Kill all humans

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green_dragon 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah but eventually another primate will take our place; and there will be wars.

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VictoriousStalemate -1 points 3 years ago

I think this is the only workable solution.

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wabafee 13 points 3 years ago

Mass extinction event. Breed out aggression from our species we seem to be doing that but slowly. Space mining could potentially stop us from having war in Earth at least. AI takeover have everyone live on their own virtual reality paradise. For the most reasonable I think the best way to end wars is education and uplifting poverty nations not exploit them.

Edit: Or we can just be like Switzerland be a direct democracy, with how slow they decide things it will be highly unlikely to go to war at all.

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Barns 13 points 3 years ago

Kill everyone. No people, no wars! Win/win in my book

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szczur 1 point 3 years ago

It certainly is a way... although I don't feel like we would greatly benefit from it!

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XTL 1 point 3 years ago

That's moving the goal posts. Though killing everyone might fall under the "unreasonable" part of the question.

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Reliant1087 12 points 3 years ago

Universal basic income, universal food and shelter and education.

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borkcorkedforks 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, most wars are about resources so becoming a post-scarcity would go a long way.

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Reliant1087 1 point 3 years ago

Exactly. At least an average person won't sign up to get shot at.

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Dufurson 12 points 3 years ago

Implantation of the post-scarcity society and the end of capitalism ez gg

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SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT 12 points 3 years ago

Very easy. Global thermonuclear war. That should make sure that the remaining humans (if any) don't need to fight over resources for at least a few generations.

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ScrumblesPAbernathy 6 points 3 years ago

I bet I could convince you that there are no winners in global thermonuclear war with just 1000 games of tic tac toe.

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sawdustprophet 2 points 3 years ago

"The only winning move is not to play."

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blue_zephyr 1 point 3 years ago

You're delusional if you think we wouldn't be at each other's troaths over those last resources.

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DmMacniel 10 points 3 years ago

Abolish Money and increase global distribution of goods aka socialism.

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buycurious 14 points 3 years ago

Ah yes, the Star Trek approach.

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T156 5 points 3 years ago

Although it did take them at least one apocalypse, alien intervention, and 200 - 300 years before they actually got around to it.

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alokir 7 points 3 years ago

That would probably create more reasons for people/groups to go to war with each other than it eliminates.

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Double_A 4 points 3 years ago

And who decides who has to produce those goods for everyone? Also who decides who gets how much? ... Probably some kind of war. :)

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XTL 1 point 3 years ago

And when groups of people make up their own currency and start gambling and trading to build up underground empires?

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Hazdaz 10 points 3 years ago

There is no solution to that. It is a cold, hard reality of living on a planet with limited resources. We all might hate war (and for good reason, obviously), but it isn't like animals don't fight for territory either. Just happens that humans found a way to make it a few orders of magnitude more extreme.

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asimplefriedegg 9 points 3 years ago

When there's no war, people like Hitler won't have any opposition to their rise to power. Haiti never gains independence. We'd never have escaped feudalism.

Most wars are stupid bullshit and suck ass. The military, especially the US military, is the biggest waste of money ever. That doesn't mean that war isn't directly tied to lots of positive things like innovation. There's so much medical, industrial, and geographical knowledge we wouldn't have if it wasn't for some war, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. People's ideas will always conflict because different groups of people are going to have goals unique to them that clash with others

Now if you were to ask how to stop unnecessary wars, better more efficient rulers. Most of the people in power today are complete hacks. It's crazy

But I don't think we'll ever get rid of war and I don't know if that's necessarily that crazy? Ultimately it's apart of how we grow as societies

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fernandu00 9 points 3 years ago

Make those who declare war to actually fight the war. Put the two countries president on each side of an arena with some swords to fight to death, the one who lives wins the war. I'd record and pay pee view or something and the money raised would pay for homes for the poor in each country

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bstix 9 points 3 years ago

Education for everyone globally. War is, like all kinds of violence, an act or reaction of impotence (psychological term/not sexual).

It basically means nobody actually chooses to act violently or start wars. They do it because they believe consciously or subconsciously that they have no other options, because they can't think of any options.

This is always a wrong assumption, because there is always a better option. The difficult part is to getting people to understand their actual options. Education solves this.

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redballooon 3 points 3 years ago

Did the last year in Europe fly by you unnoticed?

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bstix 3 points 3 years ago

No. I think Putin started the war because he was already threatened by the economy and domestic rivalry. It's not like he woke up one morning and thought it was a good idea to kill a lot of people. In his head it was the right thing to do for some reason, probably something involving saving his own ass.

He was able to gather some support for this horrible idea because there are many uneducated Russian voters who actually believe that the war has a purpose.

If they had been educated, he would not have had support.

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AbsolutePain 2 points 3 years ago

I agree education is an importante part of the solution. But by itself it cannot be: many people who start wars are highly educated, intelligent individuals. There are many examples, both in old and in modern history.

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Niello 8 points 3 years ago

There is this dystopia anime series called From the New World. The premise is a portion of humanity gained psychic power and led to the collapse of society because it's so powerful that order could not be enforced. Far into the future there's a cluster of communities that's able to exist, and the way they went about it was to genetically engineered humans so when they harm another human it triggers body functions that make it harder for them to breath and other things. Killing another human also kills the aggressor. It kind of works on the interpretative level so it's possible that using drones could still have an effect, probably.

Even in the story they explored ways to circumvent it though, but that's kind of a tangent.

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cacheson 3 points 3 years ago

This one was great, highly recommend it.

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kurogane 1 point 3 years ago

Off topic but on a side note, I spent the last 7 years trying to find back this anime. Thanks!

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gonzo0815 8 points 3 years ago

Democracies rarely go to war with each other. Add mutual economical dependency to that and you have a strong base to avoid armed conflict. The EU is a good example for that.

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Steampunk 5 points 3 years ago

A global 'EU' is the most likely way to end all wars, yes.

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DarkDarkHouse 8 points 3 years ago

Britain has left the chat

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FatLegTed 2 points 3 years ago

And don't we know it!

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dezmd 2 points 3 years ago

/worries and stares in American Freedom

The nanny state and ridiculously high level of market protectionism bullshit under the guise of regulation that the EU throws around gets a bit too authoritarian for me to blanket accept as a Global system, where the big players will just run shit anyway (China, US, India) if the system created is a fair democracy based on population representation. Although it would be nice to have proper universal health care services, universal social welfare services, and open and free education services for everyone.

Or am I off base with this assessment and not knowing enough about the EU structure to understand how it could be effective on a global scale in the face of global scales of corruption?

It would take AI levels of control to avoid corruption, but the AI itself could and would be corrupted or just simply tricked at every opportunity.

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arcrust 7 points 3 years ago

Eradicate fear.

Fear of losing power. Fear of "them". Fear of going to hell because you didn't convert someone. Fear of lost resources.

It all boils down to fear. The problem is that fear is contagious. It's easier to convince someone to back your side if you make them afraid vs hopeful.

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WookieMunster 4 points 3 years ago

How do you eradicate fear?

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Fondots 4 points 3 years ago

You face it, permit it to pass over you and through you. And when it has gone past you turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only you will remain.

/S, I'm just hype about the new dune trailer.

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arcrust 3 points 3 years ago

I wish I had an answer to that. For me, it's knowledge and recognition. Having an open mind to hear both sides of an argument and trying to focus on facts, not "what ifs". Then paying attention to not just what's being said, but how it's being said. It's pretty easy to see when someone is trying to get you emotional rather than logical,but you have to be looking for it.

When I hear a politician say "they're trying to take away...." or "they want you to...". That's them trying to make you fear the other side. I don't give a shit if you're left, right, capitalist, communist, or a dictator, if you're goal is to make me fear what the other side will do with power then you've already lost me. Because I know, that really you're afraid to lose power and so you make other people afraid too. Unfortunately, it works for way too many people.

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AshDene 6 points 3 years ago

A single world spanning country.

If we don't kill ourselves off first it will probably happen eventually. Country sized used to be limited by things like communication latency, and the time it took to move forces around. Technology has shrunk the world so that those things no longer matter. The natural size limit on a country is almost certainly as large as the earth now.

It won't happen soon, cultures will take time to become similar enough to merge. Leadership structures take time to be absorbed into a greater one (EU style) or have to forcefully taken over (Chechnya style, thankfully very rare these days). But with no real impediment to countries growing larger, it will happen eventually. With no-one able to fund or support rebellion and modern technology making police actions extremely effective it may well last effectively forever.

Whether it's a democratic utopia, a dictatorial nightmare, or something in between for the common citizen is not yet defined. Either way, war, as in peer to peer conflict between sovereigns, will be over.

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Max_UL 7 points 3 years ago

Well, you can still get civil war in that scenario right, or just mass strife and protests which can grow into warlike movements.

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AshDene 2 points 3 years ago

With the capability of modern surveillance technology (making it extremely hard to organize a rebellion), and the sophistication of modern weaponry (making it extremely hard to arm an army without state support) it strikes me as unlikely that you would ever get civil war in a single country world.

Civil war is already incredibly rare with plenty of outside actors happy to support trouble.

I certainly don't rule out mass strife and protests, but the question was about war, not suffering.

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Doug 1 point 3 years ago

Doesn't that loop back around?

Everyone becomes part of the world government, but as time goes on people with different leanings or needs or whatever band together. With time and effort they are allowed exceptions, customizations, etc. This turns into more groups collecting in the same way with more factioning as a result.

It may not be geographic countries in the same way, but isn't the result the same?

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AshDene 1 point 3 years ago

Factions happen. Political power struggles happen. Even coups happen.

It's quite rare for civil wars to happen, or for countries to dissolve. With a world country where there were no outside groups to go to for support or see as an example, it will become even rarer. "Not in a thousand years" sort of rare.

Conflict within a country which maintains superior capacity to violence than it's constituent groups is very different from war. That doesn't mean no one gets shot, but it means no one carves the land up with trenches and barrages the enemy with artillery for months on end. Real war is a particularly ugly beast and very few things are like it.

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xarvh 6 points 3 years ago

Let's first address all the "nature" and "biological" not-really-true claims.

The Batek people of Malaysia are so averse of killing other humans that refuse to do it even when threatened with slavery https://peacefulsocieties.uncg.edu/...

So, war is cultural, not biological.

Second, why do we do war?

At first glance, is for scarce resources, for survival.

But look at the modern wars. Are they for survival? Are they for resources that we need to survive?
No they are not.
They are for power.

But whose power?
The power of those who actually have to fight and die?
Certainly not.

The power of the rulers, who are greedy for more power.

Most people need to be scared into going to war, need to be convinced that they are defending their families and their "people".

This is why rulers work very hard to build national identities, the good "us" vs the evil "them".

Here we need three things:

  1. We need a culture that knows how to recognize those greedy for power, those with a desire to dominate, and see them as the threat to freedom that they are, ie some sort of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveling_mechanism
    There are several cultures that do that, but it has to be a deliberate and conscious thing.

  2. We need to rethink our identities, national and not, because those identities are used to define the "other" that is ok to harm and kill.
    A way to do this is to make sure that people who want to travel and visit other groups can do so easily: this will help the various groups understand and humanize each other.

  3. We need a culture that stresses the importance of non-violent conflict resolution.
    Because if all you know is violence, then that's what you will use.

I mean, easier said than done of course, but I think that knowing the direction makes it easier to reach it.

For further reading on the subject, I would recommend Bob Altemeyer's "The Authoritarians" and Graeber & Wengrow's "The Dawn of Everything" from the top of my head.

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Kaldo 3 points 3 years ago

The Batek people of Malaysia are so averse of killing other humans that refuse to do it even when threatened with slavery https://peacefulsocieties.uncg.edu/...

So, war is cultural, not biological.

Wouldn't this only imply that pacifism is cultural, not that war isn't biological?

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Timwi 2 points 3 years ago

What's the difference?

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Kaldo 3 points 3 years ago

If I'm interpreting it correctly he's using that example to say war isn't inherently part of human nature but rather a result of culture (aka environment and society). I'm saying the example could also go to show that the reason that tribe abhors violence is because of their unusual society going against nature.

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olorin99 1 point 3 years ago

Rather than attempting to change our national identities how about we just kill all the rulers /s.

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szczur 2 points 3 years ago

Agreed.

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Today 6 points 3 years ago

Did you watch Shiny Happy People? Apparently Christian fundamentalists believe the world population can fit into Jacksonville, FL. There's the answer. Anyone who wants to start a war has to go live in Jacksonville. Build that wall!

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dezmd 4 points 3 years ago

Hey now, we just elected a woman Democrat as mayor in Jacksonville (and it is generally blue leaning over the past two decade juxtaposed with nearby towns and areas around it).

But I understand the image problem, even man-baby DeSantis lived here over in Ponte Vedra Beach, which is a carved out slice of the Jax area beaches that is in a different county (last century politics, money, private beach club).

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Today 1 point 3 years ago

Oh yeah. I live in Dallas so I'm familiar with the image problem. Everyone thinks we're in Texas.

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swab148 2 points 3 years ago

Hey, another Dallasite, sup?

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shandrakor 6 points 3 years ago

Since you stipulated our species, to me, the answer is an external threat to the whole. Aliens, higher or lower dimensional creatures, cryptids, flame unicorns sharting lava, even angels or demons if we want to get real wild.

Even just the threat of an existential terror such as these and probably a lot I missed, (feel free to add to the list! Feed me your existential threats!) has the potential to bring the species together to fight on a larger scale.

However this doesn't eliminate war just moves the focus. So I'm not sure if I've answered your question or not but I had fun doing it!

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whenigrowup356 3 points 3 years ago

I feel like the cultural/political responses to both global warming and COVID-19 have shaken my faith in this sort-of Watchmen scenario working out. No matter how universal the threat, seems like some groups will always find an angle to work that cuts against the "greater good."

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RIotingPacifist 5 points 3 years ago

End capitalism (& the nation state/state in general)

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hardypart 5 points 3 years ago

Put all leaders together in a hall with good music and cozy interior and give everyone MDMA.

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timmytbt 3 points 3 years ago

This one is at least worth trying.

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Sir_Simon_Spamalot 5 points 3 years ago

Kill every human being. No people no war.

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Anitabath097 5 points 3 years ago

Economic democracy; if money and resources cause wars then why not let everyone have control? I will probably hear the human nature stuff but being social is just as if not more important than hurting your species/society.

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muzzle 3 points 3 years ago

We've tried everything else, might as well try this, where do I sign?

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at_an_angle 1 point 3 years ago

Well my God says you're wrong.

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Kir 5 points 3 years ago

The question is ill-posed.

War is just a tool, a collective act of violence that a group of people do against another in order to obtain a result. It's always sad and it's always bring sufference, but one could say sometimes it's necessary. If you cancel war from the world witouth changin anything else, you will ends up probably damagin more the one with actually less power, since violence is usually the last resort in order to confront someone that hold political, economical and soft power upon you.

If you wanted to ask how we go to a situation when wars are not necessary and they are actually the less convenient and effective way to obtain collective or personal results, so that we ends up with no actual war are started, here's my answer. We need to build a system that minimize close to zero the difference in power (every kind of power) between people, and we need to build an efficient an relieble system to intermediate and resolve the inevitable conflict between people and groups.

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Kaldo 5 points 3 years ago

Benevolent global AI dictator. These never go wrong in sci-fi after all.

(has to be true AI like Daneel Olivaw, not this fake LLM crap though)

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Col3814444 4 points 3 years ago

Would you like to play a game?

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sokolobo 4 points 3 years ago

The Culture has entered the chat.

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CIWS-30 4 points 3 years ago

Equal distribution of wealth and power, along with trying to create universal standards of communication (I.E. speaking reading and writing) would help probably.

Plus universal access to education and birth control. And ENFORCING equality by making sure there is no such thing as inherited wealth. Each new generation would have to start form the same point. I know it might seem a little extreme, but I think it's the only way to prevent oligarchies, monarchies, and huge concentrations of power that distort society from forming.

Plus, guaranteed clean food, water, housing, and basic healthcare for all. Get rid of the reasons for conflict, and make sure those who want to start conflicts can't ever mass enough power to start wars and we won't have them. A lot harder to justify fighting when you personally have to do it all yourself because you can't order others to just do it for you.

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TheUltraDinoboy 4 points 3 years ago

Nuclear deterrent. If that fails, nuclear annihilation. Either way, there will be no more wars.

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Machefi 2 points 3 years ago
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Cevilia 4 points 3 years ago
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T156 11 points 3 years ago

A curious game. The only winning move is not to play.

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Risus_Nex 2 points 3 years ago

Well, f*ck. I just lost THE other game again.

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ivanafterall 3 points 3 years ago

Sorry, but I won't be satisfied as long as that guy has more ponies than me. And he's most definitely NOT my friend.

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Cevilia 3 points 3 years ago
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Godnroc 4 points 3 years ago

People say violence is never an option, but violence is always the last option. We can try arguing, debating, convincing, compromising, making concessions, begging, bartering, betting, but at the end of the list is the threat of violence followed by actual violence.

If we want to reduce violence, we need to find a way to settle disagreement somewhere before violence. Otherwise, all disagreements just get closer and closer in a game of brinksmenship. Those who blink first lose.

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Syrc 4 points 3 years ago

Kill every human, or all but one. As long as there’s at least two people, there will be conflict.

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ivanafterall 4 points 3 years ago

Simple. We make war illegal.

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Entropywins 3 points 3 years ago

If you don't stop the violence I'll... I'll have to enforce the law with violence

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PilferJynx 2 points 3 years ago

"Special military operation"

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Col3814444 1 point 3 years ago

‘Taps forehead’

Genius.

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ivanafterall 1 point 3 years ago

I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been tried. I'm talking zero tolerance. If you do war, straight to jail with you, no exceptions. I believe that'd nip it in the bud.

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volodymyr 4 points 3 years ago

Like others said, struggle is in human nature. But it is possible to shift it to other domains: art, science, exploration. To prevent this stuggle spill back into physical violence, there should be broad consensus on basic rules, effectively enforced.

So I'd say, build this consensus, which will probably need to rely on abundant renewable enengy, some form of UBI, equality, and stronger international institutions, but will not spotaneously evolve towards unsupportable preferences of some groups.

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JunctionSystem 4 points 3 years ago

The only way to permanently end war is universal omnicide.

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limpid_luster 4 points 3 years ago

Put everyone in a Matrix and let the A.I. lead the humanity

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tallwookie 2 points 3 years ago

i wanna be a coppertop

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GustavoM 4 points 3 years ago

It's (theoretically) impossible -- you can't break someone's (ignorant and established) will/ideas/plans with words alone or treats. Most world leaders are megalomaniacs by heart, i.e they won't stop until they are done with what they want.

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JesusTheCarpenter 4 points 3 years ago

It would take way more but the first step it would be to remove religions. And not only because most are not peaceful in principle but also because some religions see others as a target. Even small difference in beliefs could spark a vicious and long standing conflic, like Catholics Vs protestants.

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GunnarRunnar 4 points 3 years ago

Put the ones in charge to the front line.

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encync2 4 points 3 years ago

Put everyone in a time-out until they can play nicely with the other children (because let's face it, a lot of them are acting like children)

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Deliverator 4 points 3 years ago

Easy enough, we just build a jail so big that we can fit the entire world inside of it, boom no more crime.

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nomadjoanne 3 points 3 years ago

Humans are ultimately animals. We strive for dominance on an individual and societal level. We can run societies in a way that helps to minimize violent conflict but I don't think you can ever eliminate it. Not while still being what we know as human.

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qnick 3 points 3 years ago

Bonobo way

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Hypersapien 3 points 3 years ago

Colonizing space

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washashore 1 point 3 years ago
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GaroshTheSpaceShip 4 points 3 years ago

Na, we need O'Neill Cylinders in space. Much easier, more room and better climate control.

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PoopyInThePeePeeHole 3 points 3 years ago

An unfortunate combination of somehow achieving a post-scarcity, non-capitalist society with robust resource and population control.

But people are greedy and want "freedoms" that run counter to this.

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DefenderOfTheWeak 3 points 3 years ago

The only way to end all wars is for all people to fully control the instinct of domination with rational mind. It's all about education and self-awareness. Making people rational creatures

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metaStatic 3 points 3 years ago

it's the only logical solution

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pineapplelover 3 points 3 years ago

You'll have to find a way to eliminate greed

Edit: or no people so you have nobody to start wars

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Alpagu 3 points 3 years ago

I think the solution is to have enough renewable energy for all of humanity.

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JasSmith 2 points 3 years ago

Impossible. There is 1-5% of the population who are born anti-social. It's very difficult to socialise them, and some never do. They are vastly overrepresented in prisons. These people sometimes get into positions of power. Particularly in societies which value authoritarianism, like Russia and China. This cannot be helped. Instead, we must mitigate the effects of their reach. NATO, for example, is an excellent way to stymy these dictators.

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Yinchie 2 points 3 years ago

As long, there are rankings in society, money, and power and human emotions – conflict will never end.

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_kato 2 points 3 years ago

Make the old men fight each other and soilder just refusing to follow orders that seem stupid

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donchez 2 points 3 years ago

use nuclear bombs on everyone who doesn't comply

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adriator 2 points 3 years ago

use nuclear bombs on everyone who doesn’t comply

"Death solves all problems. No man, no problem" - Stalin

^/s^

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tallwookie 2 points 3 years ago

set aside a space for any country that wants to war, they have to deploy troops/etc there & fight there. anything goes, any atrocity or tech someone wants to use. but everyone is always watching - cameras and sensors everywhere and 24x7x365 coverage on a freely accessible dedicated stream/tv channel paid for by taxes levied against the populace of any country that chooses to war in that space.

it'd be the most highly watched stream ever, forever.

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paciencia 2 points 3 years ago

Give every man a nuke

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Hypersapien 1 point 3 years ago

Sure, immediately destroying all life on earth will end all wars.

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pwnstar 2 points 3 years ago

Get rid of religion

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stochasticity 1 point 3 years ago

While certainly beneficial, it won't end war.

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Xeelee 2 points 3 years ago

Democracy and the rule of law. Sounds banal but it's the best shot we have. People crave power. People who have power want more of it, which is the underlying cause of a lot of wars. People who have power will do absolutely everything to keep it, including starting or prolonging wars.

Therefore people who want power - regardless of the system of government - are inherently unsuited to use it responsibly. The solution? Give power only on a strictly time limited basis and within a framework of transparency and control. If you misuse the power lent to you, you will be held responsible.

This won't prevent shitty governments from happening, but at least it provides a way to get rid of said shitty governments. So, far from a perfect solution but the only realistic one.

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embit 2 points 3 years ago

Make tea

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b1_ 2 points 3 years ago

Send everyone in charge to an Enya concert. "We can sail, we can sail, With the Orinoco flow..."

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Ignacio 2 points 3 years ago

A death match between the presidents / prime ministers of the rival countries. The country of the winner of that match will win the war, and the country of the loser has to deal with the following consequences.

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Machefi 5 points 3 years ago
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Kerploppus 2 points 3 years ago
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DaDragon 2 points 3 years ago

Well effectively, it would entail an all-encompassing global spying machine that gathers all data possible, and imprisons anyone who deviates from the expected baseline. (Wouldn’t end well for me either.) You have to remove most individuality to remove reasons for fighting. And even if you imprison 999 false leads to capture just one instigator, that’s the only way to ‘guarantee’ a fairly high level of security.

So what I’d say we need is 1984 or Мы levels of oversight to have any chance of curtailing conflict for good.

EDIT: oh, and re-education. Lots and lots of re-education.

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pandarisu 2 points 3 years ago

That's another rule. No wishes containing the word 'all'. Guaranteed ironic consequences.

I don't think anyone's going to miss wars.

Star Wars, Thumb wars, wow, Storage Wars!

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Darkonion 2 points 3 years ago

No hands for anyone. Possibly no feet too. Only the cooperative will survive.

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Fangslash 2 points 3 years ago

Replace war with gaming competitions, No Game No life Style.

Small disputes are solved with simple game likes chess, major disputes/ultimatums that would otherwise result in war are played with war-equivalent games that would mobilize the entire nation, say an all-out drone battle. Refusing to honour the outcome results in North Korea styled sanctions.

crazy enough it might just work!

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Dude123 2 points 3 years ago

Post scarcity, de-population, or colonization of new worlds.

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Tamhenk 2 points 3 years ago

Humans need to evolve to a state where love, compassion and being helpful to others is ingrained. At the moment we're just clever beasts.

Sadly though, I don't think we have enough time.

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aeternum 1 point 3 years ago

Peace, by force

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ColonelSanders 1 point 3 years ago

Humans are gonna human unfortunately. Biologically I’m not convinced we are capable of eliminating war because humans are competitive by nature. To the point that there will always be one group or another trying to force its ideals onto another.

I’ve often thought about “what if we could snap our fingers and every weapon beyond that of a spear (technologically) was vanished, and any/every attempt to fashion something deadlier would fail/poof out of existence as well.”

That might stave off large scale war but there would still be tribal warring on a smaller scale I fear. Plus a ton of other issues that would arise from suddenly having no guns/missiles/projectiles/etc.

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xarvh 3 points 3 years ago

You may want to read some anthropology before you decide that war is a biological imperative.

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boredtortoise 1 point 3 years ago

People not joining armies one by one

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chainsawrobot 1 point 3 years ago
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Double_A 4 points 3 years ago

War is uniquely human

Ants have entered the chat :)

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Niello 2 points 3 years ago

War is uniquely human because it requires at least one civilization to wage.

Except it's not unique because ants also do it.

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green_dragon 1 point 3 years ago

Just hit all the buttons; it will sort itself back to a natural balance. Then eventually we might have a button to hit again.

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chowanana 1 point 3 years ago

Forbid them

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keyboardpithecus 1 point 3 years ago

If you see war as a struggle to get access to scarce resources and if you notice that currently humankind is depleting most of the available resources then you might come to the conclusion that if in the future we will not need to go to war something terrible must have happened. Are you sure about the future you want?

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Double_A 1 point 3 years ago

Establish a global trade network in a way that everyone is completely dependent on everyone else.

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Kerploppus 3 points 3 years ago
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RIotingPacifist 1 point 3 years ago

Capitalist trade necessitates competition & states, even if you ignore how violent setting up that trade network was, the need for competition to push profits up means you need to put down local competition or regulations (e.g the US (where the biggest companies reside) need to coup democratic leaders that get in the way of profits, such as the Iranian coup, etc), but people don't like that so you end up with counter revolutions which puts forces hostile to the US in power, and eager to give the US a bloody nose (but mostly through proxy wars).

And that's without even getting into the trade creating Cheneys who want war because it is profitable.

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nafri 1 point 3 years ago

this is a bit grim but global-wide information control that shreds any information which will help the growth of the idea of overly patriotic but less enough to not kill the domestic culture (but i think, not necessarily always telling the truth). that will also promote the sense of global village and transnationalism. and relocate the idea of war to other rivalries like on sports or something, idk.

basically limit the free will without showing it. I can't think if it's gonna happen or this even possible.

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impulse 0 points 3 years ago

Build a truly massive nuke, threaten every single country that you will wipe it from the planet if they even think about invading another. Make sure to follow through on that promise on the slightest indication, just so everyone knows you're not joking. Ideally, you would hand this over to an AI that keeps score of each country's behavior and prunes the ones that don't behave without any moral concerns.

Problem with that approach is, that you would probably be out of nukes by noon of day one.

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Atxu 0 points 3 years ago

We need a global nation to represent the millions that live in a culture society and economy built on the Internet habilty to interact with everyone else in this planet. With structure and representation relative to the economic and cultural power they hold in the global political scenario. Not a utopian global nation for everyone, just one among the others.

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varjen -2 points 3 years ago

Massive doses off mdma for everyone. All the time.

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