Because this is totally somthing that actually happens am I right guys

3 years ago by Lanky_Pomegranate530 to c/therightcantmeme

Enkers 239 points 3 years ago

Somebody actually took time to sit down and draw this.

I guess my life isn't that bad after all.

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Pratai 37 points 3 years ago
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ElBarto 15 points 3 years ago

I've always felt self conscious about making a comic because I suck at drawing, but yeah if someone can happily produce and release that, I think I might be right.

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DumbAceDragon 10 points 3 years ago

They took time?

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Elivey 4 points 3 years ago

I am SHIT at drawing and I could draw this in like 10 minutes. That's time!

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AFKBRBChocolate 120 points 3 years ago

It's much easier to argue against something if you completely make up ridiculous scenarios to argue against.

Our kid is non-binary. No parent is happy for that to happen. I don't think any person is happy to realize it about themselves, except to the extent that it explains why they had been so unhappy previously.

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Kecessa 29 points 3 years ago

That's the thing the angries don't realize, life would be much simpler for the people concerned if they were just cis-heteros, it's not about being contrarians and it's not a choice, it's just who they are and that should be ok so it becomes something that isn't more difficult!

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AFKBRBChocolate 22 points 3 years ago

Exactly! I've never experienced it first hand, but I've seen the anguish of friends whose parents keep setting them up on straight dates with people they fundamentally aren't attracted to. I've had trans women friends who weren't close to passing and who desperately wanted a relationship with a straight man. Often they'd end up dating gay men, feeling unsatisfied because those men treated them like another man. So much sadness.

I often think that the people who believe sexuality is a choice must at least be bi. There's just no circumstance where I could choose to be attracted to men instead of women, and it's laughable to think otherwise. I feel like anyone who thinks otherwise must have the capacity to make that choice, and the poor reasoning skills to think someone would.

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aphlamingphoenix 17 points 3 years ago

As a bi guy, it doesn't work any different for us. We're attracted to men and women whether we like it or not. We don't choose our attractions. We don't think it's a choice.

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Kecessa 6 points 3 years ago

Yeah I think some people don't understand that it's no better if you need to contain your feelings for someone just so you can try and find someone else to be with just so you can pass for an hereto...

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AFKBRBChocolate 2 points 3 years ago

Oh, understood. My thought was that those far right Christian conservatives who think people choose to be gay must live straight lives but have at least some attraction to the same sex.

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TheFresh16 14 points 3 years ago

As someone in their late twenties who just recently came to understand and accept that I am nonbinary, I applaud you for your acceptance of your kid.

I never fit in growing up and never knew why. Now as an adult I still probably won't mention it to my parents, despite making some significant life changes, due to their proven lack of empathy.

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AFKBRBChocolate 5 points 3 years ago

That sucks, I'm sorry. If there's anyone in your life who should accept you for who you are, it's your parents. They're the ones who have seen the most of your life experiences, and who contributed whatever stuff you were born with.

I certainly wish our child had an easier situation, but they're beautiful and brilliant and kind, and we couldn't be prouder of who they've become.

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TheFresh16 2 points 3 years ago

No need to apologize but I appreciate the empathy! We definitely need more parents like you in the world. Though your parenting may be more challenging than some have it, just know the tremendous impact you are making by being accepting of them!

The crazy thing is that I am actually a parent myself. It is very challenging to work towards being who I want to be, my true self, compared to what I grew up thinking a parent should look like. It is especially hard to become myself outwardly, in this stage of life, without feeling like I am putting my needs above my family's. For this reason I again appreciate your views on your kid - I very much wish I knew myself earlier on.

Nonetheless, through the help of therapy, my current focus is to be, love, and accept my authentic self such that my little ones can see an example of acceptance in whomever they want to be. The nonbinary parent role models are few and far between so I must try to be my own!

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AFKBRBChocolate 2 points 3 years ago

Inspiring comment. You know, for eons (and still, somewhat today) people in horrible marriages would stay together "for the children." Maybe a laudable sacrifice, but it turns out that it screws up the kids worse than divorcing and getting into healthy relationships, because kids learn about relationships from watching their parents.

I feel like that's analogous to a non-binary or trans parent keeping their true self hidden to protect the children. I don't think it's been studied, but I think it's very likely that a similar thing would happen and the kids would be better off being with parents who love themselves for who they are.

So good job, I think you're doing the right thing.

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rosymind 88 points 3 years ago

I haven't yet seen anyone else point out:

If the embryo was tested, they would know the sex before transferring it to the surrogate uterus (easily avoiding the problem). IVF is insanely expensive, as are surrogates. (Surrogates go for $50k plus per pregnancy)

Whoever did this comic is so willfully (and woefully) ignorant on so many levels that I wonder how they're able to function at all

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Gargantu8 20 points 3 years ago
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rosymind 13 points 3 years ago

Yeah, and the cost is dependant upon location. Surrogates tend to be women who have easy (or easier) pregnancies, who want to help other people in need.

I'm not saying that desperation or exploitation don't happen, just that generally surrogates are people who are doing it out of love for other people (not for the money)

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pomodoro_longbreak 6 points 3 years ago

Yeah I'm not giving up all my bone density for $50k rofl

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totallynotarobot 11 points 3 years ago

Not disagreeing with your comment, but $50k??? That's IT??

What a fucking insult. That is some straight up exploitative shit.

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Fraylor 7 points 3 years ago

That's just the cash payment. All of the medical stuff is paid for, usually further amenities so the surrogate maintains low stress and such for the health of the baby.

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rosymind 6 points 3 years ago

If it makes you feel better, it's usually more. There are a lot of factors, including how much the surogacy agency gets for their cut, which state or country, if they are a family member or friend, whether the parents are able to add a surrogate on their insurance, etc.

We looked into it because I'm older and thus higher risk, but ultimately decided against it. My neice even offered to carry our kid, but I just feel too guilty. I'm kind of whatever on having children but my husband has dreamed of being a dad since he was a lil' boy

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AeonFelis 4 points 3 years ago

That's why you get a woman from a third world country that can retire in leisure on these $50k.

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NoSpiritAnimal 11 points 3 years ago

They don't even draw good neither

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Mobilityfuture -4 points 3 years ago

Not to mention to pick sex pre fertikization they just sort the fast swimmers from the slow ones

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curiousaur -5 points 3 years ago

It's illegal in many countries to test for sex before birth to prevent an imbalance.

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Nurse_Robot 6 points 3 years ago

Care to back that up, in particular with regards to IVF? Because that sounds like bullshit

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Duamerthrax 8 points 3 years ago

India, China, South Korea, Nepal, and Vietnam. These are countries that have the tradition where the male heir(s) provide of their parent's retirement and the female hair(s) get married off and don't have a financial expectation to their parents.

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oascany 5 points 3 years ago

Not sure about IVF, but in some countries with a high rate of female foeticide, pre-birth sex determination is illegal; although it is still practiced.

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curiousaur -2 points 3 years ago

Why don't you just Google it you dunce.

Here's the list of countries JUST IN EUROPE where it's illegal: Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Lithuania, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, Netherlands, and the UK.

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Nurse_Robot 6 points 3 years ago

There's no need to be a dick, thanks for the info

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curiousaur 0 points 3 years ago

This list is outdated it seems, it's illegal in most of Europe now.

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Cosmicomical 72 points 3 years ago

Whoever made this is deeply damaged.

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dangblingus 26 points 3 years ago

Conservatives usually are. It's the only way to explain their callous indifference to human suffering or their obsession with everyone else's genitalia.

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Dkarma 13 points 3 years ago

They are deeply ashamed. Public shaming actually works really well.

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Custoslibera 0 points 3 years ago

They are probably just a closeted transexual who wishes they were raised by two dads.

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TheSanSabaSongbird 67 points 3 years ago

Great. We all lost a few IQ points for having read this.

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affiliate 11 points 3 years ago

we are thus one step closer to becoming conservatives

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Mammal 46 points 3 years ago

Wait, does the author think this is a thing? Or is this lampooning the attitude?

Classic Poe's Law.

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Jiggle_Physics 14 points 3 years ago

From looking at the person's social media it would seem they are not making that joke. They are mostly a retweeter of StoneToss and Mr. Pumpkin, both white supremacist comic writers. They seem to occasionally make their own blending the two styles, hence the MrPump_Toss watermark.

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Mechaguana 37 points 3 years ago

They reach so hard for imaginary scenarios, it's actually amazing how far they will go to justify carrying on their asshole behavior

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9thSun 34 points 3 years ago

I refuse to believe someone made this unsatirically. (Is that a word? What word am I looking for?)

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Stretch2m 9 points 3 years ago

Unironically?

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hakunawazo 3 points 3 years ago

Straight (matches on more than one level)?

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Annoyed_Crabby 33 points 3 years ago

Ahh yes, orphanage buy baby so they can let gay parent to adopt, and transgender is forced by parent.

Checkmate, aesthetic.

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Draegur 12 points 3 years ago

the illustration is stupid, but what it's illustrating is not an orphanage but a surrogate.
it portrays them paying for a surrogate mother to gestate some eggs that were fertilized with either of their sperm,
and they state that they aborted every fetus that had two x chromosomes until they had one that was XY,
which they allowed to mature into a viable infant, which was then birthed.

notice how the infant is reaching for the individual in the bed.
they are reaching for their mother.

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gapbetweenus 31 points 3 years ago

I would love to talk to someone who really thinks this is funny - we would be like to aliens from different worlds.

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First 3 points 3 years ago

I made the sacrifice and checked the IG account - it's full of equally bigoted posts, in the spirit of a 4chan incel, where each post has between 0 to 3 likes. Especially the ones where he complains about the dating market are sad.

It's a mass shooter in the making.

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gapbetweenus 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks for the sacrifice. Do you think it's really funny to them or just jaded and bitter?

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Michal -11 points 3 years ago

I think it's hilarious. AMA

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corship 10 points 3 years ago

Can you explain the joke?

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Michal 1 point 3 years ago

It amalgomates a few things the conservatives hate, abortion, gay parents, transgender. The result is grotesque and funny. It's also funny to think that this is what conservatives think the left wants.

Maybe it's because I live in a progressive country i can find the comic amusing. We don't really get staunch conservatives around here and they are not really a threat.

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corship 1 point 3 years ago

So you'd say the joke is that it's an over the top caricature?

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fosforus 30 points 3 years ago
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Kusimulkku 30 points 3 years ago

It's so stupid I laughed

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Gullible 27 points 3 years ago

Freddy Mercury really turned into a dick after he died.

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Zozano 23 points 3 years ago

The most realistic part about all of this is walking out of a hospital with a baby one hour after giving birth.

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sxan 19 points 3 years ago

Sex-selective abortion is not uncommon, but is an uncomfortable ethical quandry.

Do conservatives really object to the use of surrogates, or only when they're used by gay couples?

TBH, I initially thought the comic was going to be about sex-selective abortion; I didn't get what they were trying to say until the last panel :-/

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Kusimulkku 13 points 3 years ago

Sex-selective abortion is not uncommon, but is an uncomfortable ethical quandry.

What the fuck Caucasus and China

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crackajack 6 points 3 years ago

Caucasus and China are notoriously mysoginistic.

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Blackmist 1 point 3 years ago

If you're only allowed one, it might as well be the one that's valuable.

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Elivey 3 points 3 years ago

Using PGD they can choose a baby's sex but it's really expensive. Though if someone is shelling out for a surrogate already is gonna be loaded.

What's funny is it's typically used by people who have very binary and old fashioned views on gender, aka conservatives. The people who think like this comic. They want both so dad can teach the boy how to play football and a girl for mom to dress up her little princess!

I watched interviews of people who had done this and that's literally how they described it. I don't think there's refunds if their kid turns out trans lol

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Draedron -19 points 3 years ago

Objecting to surrogates would be one thing conservatives do I understand. It's basically human trafficking

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riskable 7 points 3 years ago

That's ridiculous. From the Right's perspective all babies are born from breeding surrogates. It's the concept that the child won't be raised by a woman that pisses them off.

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OmenAtom 3 points 3 years ago

Alright I'll bite, how is it human trafficking

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Elivey 2 points 3 years ago

Conservatives are not typically against surrogates.

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Kase 10 points 3 years ago

So surrogate mothers are evil too?? Do they say this when it's for a heterosexual couple?

And I hope the implication isn't that they wanted a boy just because they wanted a trans kid. Transmasculine people exist. But it's possible they're saying the evil gay couple specifically wanted a trans girl, I'm just not sure what the author's point is in that case.

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Dagwood222 5 points 3 years ago

Not my personal point of view, but as I understand it, IVF is 'abortion/murder' because you don't use all the viable embryos AND the sperm donor has to masturbate into a cup.

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Trainguyrom 3 points 3 years ago

I heard on NPR about an abortion law that got rewritten in a red state because it would have effectively outlawed fertility clinics, and that was enough to convince enough of the republican politicians to rewrite it to be more narrowly-focused. So I suppose like most ideologies it depends on the individual

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Dagwood222 1 point 3 years ago

According to one story I've read, Nancy Reagan was always 'meh' on abortion, but because it was a big deal to the Party she was happy to parrot the hard line. However, when she learned that embryonic stem cells could help with Ronnie's dementia she had a 'change of heart' and became 'progressive.' If it isn't true for Nancy, I'm sure it is true for plenty of hardcore GOPs who absolutley believe that all abortion is murder except for the one that benefits them.

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dangblingus 9 points 3 years ago

The quality of artwork is Chris Chan Sonichu levels of proficiency. Chef's Kiss

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AVengefulAxolotl 6 points 3 years ago

What the actual fuck is this. I literally have no words about this... Like none at all...

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BigBlackCockroach 2 points 3 years ago

Their capabilities not only exclude comedy, they also exclude drawing and the fine arts 😂 🤣 😅 😆

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