I think that will improve over time. A lot of people here are fresh off Reddit's burning ship. I think given a couple weeks people will settle in and Reddit will fade into the background.

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killallq 13 points 3 years ago

Oh, it's gonna take a lot longer than a couple weeks, unless all the Reddit refugees leave in that time.

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samus12345 19 points 3 years ago

What could be more shitty to post about than Reddit?

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DrSanta 9 points 3 years ago

Family Guy.

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IndiBrony 14 points 3 years ago

Remember when Reddit was good? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Ser_Salty 10 points 3 years ago

Lois, Reddit is doing worse than that time I was in charge of Warner Brothers

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vegantomato -3 points 3 years ago

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_user_ 4 points 3 years ago

What about intersex people?

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vegantomato -3 points 3 years ago

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jimmux 3 points 3 years ago

What is the benefit of having a binary spectrum? Is it really so precious that we can't accommodate any differences? And do we apply the same standard to other medical needs?

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Etterra 51 points 3 years ago

I never got the purpose of karma. You can't spend it, it's just a pointless number. A few subs used it, fire whatever reason, as a numbers threshold for entry, but getting karma was so trivially easy even without bots that it literally accomplished nothing in that regard.

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myusernameisokay 35 points 3 years ago

Not that I ever cared about karma, but I can see why some people did. It plays into peoples need to be liked. Karma associates a number with how well your post is doing. Bigger number = more people liked your post. Basically quantifying how well liked your post is and then gamifying it.

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julesiecoolsie 16 points 3 years ago

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GitProphet 18 points 3 years ago

How well liked something is sadly doesn't necessarily correlate with its truth.

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SixTrickyBiscuits 6 points 3 years ago

Really that stat would have to be something like total karma divided by your number of posts, or number of views by logged in users on your posts. As a total number it's meaningless. It's like someone being a millionaire if humans were immortal. Are they really good at business, or have just been alive a long time?

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rolaulten 19 points 3 years ago

Your brain sees the reward (karma) and gets a hit of dopamine. In theory this creates a spiral of encouraging you to post more contet for more dopamine hits. More content pulls in more users...

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SageWaterDragon 3 points 3 years ago

Back in 2013-ish there was a bot that would convert your karma to crypto back when it was cheap enough to just throw around like that. That was the only time in my life that I was ever paid to post, and it was like $6. I wonder how much it would be if I were to find that wallet now, but that was on an account that no longer exists. Oh, well!

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alertsleeper 2 points 3 years ago

It's a game. "Numbers go up yay!"

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manitcor 44 points 3 years ago

we called them post whores

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SamXavia 24 points 3 years ago

Guessing they just try and post as much as possible to get there post numbers up lol

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dub 17 points 3 years ago

I feel called out. I swear it's just to engage the community more!!

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Platomus 7 points 3 years ago

Haha, yeah man. I totally agree with this.

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Platomus 7 points 3 years ago

Definitely. The more comments the better!

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SamXavia 7 points 3 years ago

Engaging isn't that bad, I guess it depends on what people are posting as well as what sort of comes from it.

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manitcor 10 points 3 years ago

in the old forums you would see both totals and metrics based on things like join data. ex. ppd - posts per day

The other thing you would have were signatures and account badges/tags/awards.

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wanderingmagus 6 points 3 years ago

I remember we had posting games like "the poster below me" or "the poster above me", and "count to 1000" threads to boost those numbers. Good times.

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SamXavia 3 points 3 years ago

That sounds so cool, why didn't it get transferred over?

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manitcor 8 points 3 years ago

signatures were very dividing, a community usually had them or they didn't and there were sometimes huge complain threads about them so they kind of just fell out of favor. You can still find places that use them.

badges reddit adopted and put into the profile page similar to steam which was not a bad idea since people with a lot of badges created new UX issues.

then you have status flairs and tags, these I really wish had come back, some subs enabled user flair which in some cases replicated the old forum style through CSS mods. Some of the styles you might have might be that your name glowed or had a small animation among other things. I always really liked these though I suspect at scale they have exploitation issues.

I think some of these features could make a come back on smaller instances. Not sure we should go entirely back to the way it was done in the 00s though.

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FoxyZac64 42 points 3 years ago

I'm so glad Karma is gone. Just overall dumb. Like a achievement score on Xbox. It's not real and doesn't mean anything.

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ICastFist 16 points 3 years ago

It’s not real and doesn’t mean anything.

B-b-b-but! My e-peen! How else are people going to know that I did stuff?

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remotedev 8 points 3 years ago

This reminds me of the early '00s forums signature banners. Can we bring those back cuz they were sick

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jelloeater85 3 points 3 years ago

You can make your profile snazzy tho.

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oatscoop 1 point 3 years ago

I don't see why not.

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anewbeginning 11 points 3 years ago

At least there's a rewards system for achievement score. I never got anything for all that sweet karma I got with my massive insights and funny quips.

That's why I stopped being insightfully funny.

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antonim 8 points 3 years ago

I never got anything for all that sweet karma

Oh, but you could.

https://redaccs.com/

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TheRedSpade 7 points 3 years ago

I couldn't find a link to sell. I wonder if they're not buying anymore or I'm just blind.

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Vorticity 11 points 3 years ago

I see your strategy. Double comments to rack up those sweet sweet invisible comment points!

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FoxyZac64 6 points 3 years ago

God damn it lol

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rockSlayer 5 points 3 years ago

Are you telling me that the race for the first to 100 million achievement score means nothing??!1?2!?

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Thewheeeeeeeeeel 4 points 3 years ago

I wouldnt call it dumb overall. It definitely has good sides.

For example the karma race aka who posts a news first. That leads to communities being very up to date and discussion can happen very quickly.

Also it creates some incentive to post good comments, because its fun to know people value your opinion

But ofc there is also the other side that people post dumb memes and do reposts.

But acting like it has no worth at all is stupid as well imo

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axtualdave 4 points 3 years ago

How the fuck am I supposed to evaluate my worth as a person without an arbitrary number assigned by internet strangers???

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tony_lasagna 3 points 3 years ago

Agree that I personally found it a waste of time but I do wonder if having it encourages more people to post good/funny content more regularly. That said surely it’s the same thing really just having it per post rather than an overall score

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beefbaby182 39 points 3 years ago

Awww, you are not a whore! Whores get paid.

What you are is a karma slut. :P

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KairuByte 17 points 3 years ago

If there’s no more karma… are they just a slut?

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blind3rdeye 32 points 3 years ago

For a little I while liked watching my karma gradually climb, with a feeling that I was contributing something. But... then I realised that one shit-post on a popular subreddit can routinely 'earn' more karma than 1000 high quality posts on smaller subreddits. ... And with that realisation, I no longer saw any value in the karma score whatsoever.

I think it's best that it's gone. It skewed people to make low-effort posts in high-traffic places rather than high-effort posts in low-traffic place.

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Stuka 7 points 3 years ago

The problem of caring about karma was that after a while it was evident that effort, accuracy, attitude...none of it mattered, atleast for comments. It became mostly really easy to predict how a comment would be received, with a few exceptions from cross post traffic that would shake up the votes in waves as they were posted and down/upvote brigades flooded in.

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Rengoku 4 points 3 years ago

Spamming articles and hope they take off in /r/worldnews is also a thing. I look at 'new' tab with disgust. The same pool of redditors!

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cantstopthesignal 1 point 3 years ago

I had 300kish karma and more than half of it was from 5 comments and one post.

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subspaceinterferents 20 points 3 years ago

I had a ton of karma points back in the old place. I think they sent me a notice saying I was in the top 5%. Didn't give a shit. Don't miss it. Just don't care at all. Glad to be here with you.

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bad3r 17 points 3 years ago

Ngl Reddit naming is much better. Terms like karma and subreddit are goings to be missed.

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Chadus_Maximus 15 points 3 years ago

B-but

sublemmy...

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ICastFist 7 points 3 years ago

Unintentionally naughty sounding

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DrSanta 7 points 3 years ago

Yeah, "community" is kinda bland.

And I feel it has the potential to make newbies confused with instance.

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riquisimo 3 points 3 years ago

"Community" is a universal term, where as "subreddit" is a reddit-specific term. It's a little easier for a newbie to guess what a "community" in lemmy is versus whatever a "subreddit" to reddit is. (Is a subreddit a webpage? Is it the second page of the front page? Is the submarine section of reddit?)

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DrSanta 2 points 3 years ago

In a normal, nonfederated site, sure. But when you throw instances on top of it, it gets a bit more complex.

On another note, I don't believe we're gonna get a lot of people coming here who aren't redditors.

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Spliffman1 3 points 3 years ago

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Tabboo 16 points 3 years ago

You do house calls?

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cfx_4188 16 points 3 years ago

Is this one of the endless hints that there is no karma in Lemmy? Have you seen the little up and down arrows under every post and comment? One of my comments recently got forty-five down arrows and I'll see how many dislikes this comment gets.

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ICastFist 17 points 3 years ago

But there's no total karma for the profile, i think that's what OP meant

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Ilikecheese 16 points 3 years ago

Except for there is. It’s just most apps don’t allow you to easily see it, but some (wefwef in particular) do.

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thesanewriter 6 points 3 years ago

Wefwef doesn't pull it from the API, it attempts to sim your points to calculate your karma itself. However, it varies in its accuracy, I recently checked and it said my comment karma was 8.

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Ilikecheese 6 points 3 years ago

Yeah, it was right for a while on mine, then not so much, now it looks like it’s right again, or close to it at least. I am trying out Memmy now, and it also shows a total score. Looks like it shows both upvotes and downvotes too, which will probably drive a lot of people insane.

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axexrx 3 points 3 years ago

I only get to upvote things for some reason... So have an upvote

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Poob 5 points 3 years ago

Some instances turn off downvotes

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creditCrazy 0 points 3 years ago

How do you dislike on this site there's only downvote buttons/s

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UltiemeBanaan 16 points 3 years ago

A ho no mo? ;(

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teuast 6 points 3 years ago

no, they still a ho, they just said that

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LeylaaLovee 13 points 3 years ago

I've never been a karma whore, just a normal whore.

Getting fucked up the ass >>> internet points

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blethanie 13 points 3 years ago

I was a reddit lurker for 6+ years and now I have nothing to feel self righteous about

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spittingimage 13 points 3 years ago

I used to tell myself I didn't care about karma, but God's truth is that it made me happy to know that people enjoyed my comments. I did things I'm not proud of for those red arrows.

Now I don't want karma back. I'm free of the invisible chains that were weighing me down!

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woomp 4 points 3 years ago

I’m confused. I can still see accounts’ “comment” and “post” scores as numbers. Is that essentially different from karma?

Edit: never mind looks like it’s just wefwef

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spittingimage -3 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I've been hearing that mobile apps can see it.

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unreachable 11 points 3 years ago

serve youus right

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smoll_pp_operator 10 points 3 years ago

How do we get power users if no imaginary win points?

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PeckerBrown 8 points 3 years ago

Now you know what it's like to be a bass player 😁

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aceshigh 8 points 3 years ago

Wefwef does keep tabs of your karma.

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LocutusOfBeetleBorg 11 points 3 years ago

Boooooooooo, karma farming is one of the reasons Reddit is the way it is. We don't need bots scraping old posts, reposting them and then other bots posting the top comments from the old post. That along with the totally natural and candid "this product™ changed my life, so let me tell you about it" posts are my least favorite advent of the last decade of Reddit.

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deepblue 4 points 3 years ago

I started typing a reply to agree with you, in that it would possibly motivate people to post things that were personally interesting or meaningful, rather than relying on cliched tropes to drive engagement (much like the movie industry).

But on the other hand, there are so many other platforms where karma or a karma equivalent isn't recorded (e.g. YouTube comments, Facebook comments), but uninspired, recycled messages still somehow regularly make their way to the top. I guess the dopamine from any perceived engagement that comes from an up or down arrow is too difficult to resist. So I don't think anything will change either way.

Either that or I'm old and cranky.

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Kaliax 2 points 3 years ago

Aside from the bot issue I didn't mind karma personally.

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ilickfrogs 6 points 3 years ago

I use the android app Jerboa. However, I also tried the app "Thunder", only on GitHub atm iirc. And on your profile it displayed your cumulative sum of upvotes. Funnily enough not the comments themselves, just a score. Anyways, I hope less apps track that. It breeds the worst users.

I think the closest I would want to a total score would be maybe the ability to sort my own comments by vote count when reviewing them. But you shouldn't be able to do that on other profiles.

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player2 4 points 3 years ago

Wefwef says that it's reported by the API and they just choose to show it so it's not really wefwef keeping tabs.

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PineapplePartisan 6 points 3 years ago

I’m not being compensated, so I guess that just makes me a post slut.

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trouser_mouse 6 points 3 years ago

I am a filthy good for nothin

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Pistcow 5 points 3 years ago

Show me your butthole!

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Skanky 5 points 3 years ago

Well hello there, world!

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Spliffman1 4 points 3 years ago

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UltiemeBanaan 4 points 3 years ago

A ho no mo? ;(

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Buffaloaf 4 points 3 years ago

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FoxyZac64 4 points 3 years ago

I'm so glad Karma is gone. Just overall dumb. Like a achievement score on Xbox. It's not real and doesn't mean anything.

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eldavi 4 points 3 years ago

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stinkypoopsalot 3 points 3 years ago

Beans > Karma

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navitux 3 points 3 years ago

almost all of us I think... Reddit used to be a good place

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TWeaK 3 points 3 years ago

Bow chica wow wow.

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easterner 3 points 3 years ago

Thank you for the laugh. You dick.

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LeZero 2 points 3 years ago

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PloKoon 2 points 3 years ago

It's ok, we already knew this

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Blazingflames6073 2 points 3 years ago

Damn dude. Why you gotta do us like that?

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Yasuke 2 points 3 years ago

I’m kinda glad that not a thing anymore.

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MapleEngineer 2 points 3 years ago

We need c/forevergroup and c/100yearassociation here.

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justanother_G_man 1 point 3 years ago

You are always a hooor

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Buffaloaf 1 point 3 years ago

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aceshigh 1 point 3 years ago

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Jerosh 1 point 3 years ago

Jokes on you, I barely had any karma in the first place! So there!

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Spliffman1 1 point 3 years ago

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Spliffman1 1 point 3 years ago

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Buffaloaf 1 point 3 years ago

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Enamel94 1 point 3 years ago

🎶 Karma, karma, karma whoreeeee they they do shit posts 🎶

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stinkypoopsalot 1 point 3 years ago

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RobertPetersen 0 points 3 years ago

Wait. Is being a white bad?

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Historical_General 0 points 3 years ago

Extremely so I've heard.

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RobertPetersen 0 points 3 years ago

Well, shit.

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navitux -1 points 3 years ago

almost all of us I think... Reddit used to be a good place

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navitux -2 points 3 years ago

almost all of us I think... Reddit used to be a good place

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navitux -2 points 3 years ago

almost all of us I think... Reddit used to be a good place

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