I think that a basic lifestyle should be affordable for a basic person

My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.

My old person trait is that none of the things mentioned in the linked image happened on accident.

They happened because capitalism doesn't give a fuck about anything except bleeding as much money as conceivably possible out of each and every human.

1. Apps allow companies to suck more data out of your device than a website, allowing them to sell more of your data and... make more money.

2. Video games needing access to the internet is simply Digital Rights Management and a way to prevent piracy and... make more money. Remember, most companies view something pirated as a "lost sale," not that you would have never purchased it to begin with. As Gabe Newell once said:

“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

1. This one speaks for itself. Being able to be in control of the products you buy is freedom. Having products controlled remotely by a corporation is giving them carte blanche to make more money off of you.

2. Removing accessible customer service means more people will just give up on trying to get their problem solved, effectively allowing the company to steal from people and... shocker... make more money.

I agree, in theory, in respect to ghosting, but we live in a society that teaches us to be isolated, and doesn't teach interpersonal skills unless the interpersonal skill is "Fuck you, got mine." (which is, not surprisingly, a thing about making more money.)

In other words, these aren't old people opinions. These are "I'm not gonna let capitalism absolutely fuck me endlessly" opinions.

I think cars should not be dependent on a touch screen for ANY of it's functions (or really have one at all). They are more difficult to use than tactile buttons, distracting, and do not receive long term support from the OEM.

What do you do with a 10 year old car that runs but the touch screen nuked due to age, firmware bugs or mechanical damage? Ford isn't going to be selling replacement units 10 years later and I have yet to see an 'infotainment' system that has aftermarket replacement considerations.

My old person trait is that when I purchase a printer, I should be able to use whatever is the cheapest compatible ink without the printer treating me like I'm smuggling unicorn blood out of Narnia

my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it's a sad world we live in where most of those aren't the case anymore

My old person trait is that instructions do not need to be videos.

My old person trait is that I think I should be able to have anything I purchased repaired/serviced by whomever I wish, with whatever parts they deem acceptable.

I prefer written guides to video guides.

Video has some clear advantages when showing off a 3D space and otherwise, but I dislike pausing them over and over. Especially if my hands are covered in oil and grease, a paper version is superior to a screen.

For the love of god stop with the QR code menus. I don’t want to have to scroll up and down a million times to figure out my order.

I refuse to use subscription software. If I can't buy it outright, I either use an alternative or take to seas.

my old person trait is that you should keep your internet identity completely separate from your real one

As someone who works in a call center, screw that last person on here. So sorry you hate the automated system. Sorry you had to wait on hold. They can't keep enough of us employed because y'all are fucking mean and no one wants to be abused for $15/hr.

Er, I mean, Thank you for calling, sorry about your wait!

An urge to destroy fascism.

In regards to OP's comment about ghosting, I just want to ask, are you a man? Because women all-too-often have to deal with men who can't take no for an answer, and some of those men go from mad to violent very quickly. You might say "well, no man should act that way, they should be able to hear 'I don't want to see you anymore' and just accept it and move on" but the fact is they are not all able to do that. So should women do the respectful thing and stop ghosting, even though some of them definitely WILL end up being yelled at/attacked/killed?

(I know my example doesn't cover all situations involving ghosting, like for instance if the ghoster is a man. If you want to modify your claim to be 'ghosting is unacceptable, except in cases where having a face-to-face conversation could put someone in danger' then I guess I'd agree with that statement. It's just that it's really hard to know which person will be dangerous when they are turned down.)

My old person trait is I shouldn't have to scan a QR code for the menu at a sit-down where I'm dropping $100 on entrées. Give me a dang physical copy of the menu!

I hate all websites that move things around as they load. If I see a button, that button should stay where it is when I try to click it.

I think I should be allowed to order food from a restaurant without needing to scan a QR code which requires me to have a smart phone and an active, paid plan in order to access their menu.

My old person trait is dislike of video-form social media. I consider blaring my phone speakers at max volume disrespectful to those in my surroundings and generally annoying.

Hence why my social media of choice was reddit and is now lemmy+kbin. It's mostly text posts and images.

Owning physical media > "owning" digital media.

My old person trait is I hate short-form videos e.g. Instagram reels and TikTok videos. The back and forth boomer vs millenial vs gen z videos remind me of someone who is talking to themself with different personalities.

I want a proper headphone jack on my phone! Bluetooth can be convenient, but I prefer wired headphones.

My old person trait is thinking a family should be able to live in a house if one member has a stable job (maybe two people if both are at minimum wage).

My old person traits are most of all posted here because I am an old person.

But I'll add that my old person traits is that I think a living wage should support... er... living, including a place to live, food to eat, paying for services, buying clothes, getting decent public health and education, and even have spare money for your free time (hobbies, eat out, theatre, concerts, etc.).

I like having a keyboard and mouse. Doing things on a smartphone is a last resort.

I prefer landscape videos over vertical videos. I still remember when vertical videos were clowned on so hard that there were songs written about it. Now it's how everyone consumes their content!

These aren't "old person traits". It's common sense.

My old person trait is that I want video to be horizontal.

My old person trait is only tipping if someone is actually providing a service for me. I don’t tip at all if I’m lifting a finger for anything.

my old person trait is remembering that it didn't use to be this hot in the summer where I live.

My old person trait is that I'm unreasonably annoyed by people who don't write in full, correct, complete sentences, punctuation and grammar included.

Something interesting I've found is that people use 'lol' to show disinterest or mock the person they're replying to, not to show amusement. And that's not the kind of person I really want to engage with.

My old person trait is thinking that the internet shouldn't just be a place to sell products.

My actual old people trait is that there should be two spaces after a period. I will die on this stupid fucking hill. Even though computers automatically change it to one space. Like here.

My fucking back hurts. Knee joints as well. And I think socializing is overrated.

The idea of "keep it simple, stupid" is lost. Everything, from beauracracy to apps to games to social interactions, is mired in unnecessary complexity that makes it difficult for everyone to keep up. I want a simple website with information that I need (thank you Wikipedia for upholding this). I want an airline loyalty membership without insane fine-print rules. I want to tip services based on service provided and not mess around a tablet's interface. I want dental insurance where I'm not leaving the office with a bill that's almost half my rent becuase they did something my insurance said in fine-print wouldn't cover. Maybe these aren't "old person" traits and I'm just here venting. But damn if I don't miss when certain things were simpler.

Dumb TVs, its either 1.5k plus or you will literally never find one. I don't wanna be profiled or have some stupid android is on it. All it needs to do is display images on screen.

I have a few. And I'm not even that old (mid thirties)

• People who talk on phone calls using airpods or similar look ridiculous in public, like they're utter lunatics talking to themselves or their imaginary friend.

• people who view life through their mobile phones are unfortunate and sad. Like...why pay money to go see a gig if you're going to view it through your phone screen? I went to a wedding last week and I was one of the very few who was actually watching the procession with my own eyes rather through a camera app.

• Not being on social media should be an accepted norm, not a fucking exception. This is an issue when dating, unbelievably.

These are not old person traits, these are just things that most people agree upon.

When I buy an aplliance or something simple like a speaker I don't want to have to connect it to the web to work properly. I want to just plug it in and use the function I bought it for.

For me, I miss the days when you could browse a website without popups for cookie consent, creating/signing up for an account, paying them money, and disabling your ad blocker.

My old person trait is that most of these sound like very recent problems

I DO NOT owe you a text back. If I'm not physically w you, I owe you very little in terms of interaction. I come home, throw my phone under the bed, and ignore till morning, and I prob won't answer you then either. It's not personal...usually.

Mine is that a cellphone should be a phone first, instead of being a shitty computer first and a celllphone as a distant afterthought.

I disagree that you owe a face to face conversation. No one should forced to go meet someone if they don't feel like it.

In the context of dating, if you get ghosted, consider that the person is not interested in you after all - and just move on. No big deal.

In my 40’s I feel like everything about me is an old person trait.

As a trauma survivor, all of the people I’ve ghosted in my life were toxic and bad for my mental, physical and emotional health and I have no regrets. It’s kind of like the Billy Crystal speech in When Harry Met Sally, except the opposite. When you realize you don’t ever want to see a person again for the rest of your life…you want the rest of your life to start immediately

My old person trait is when someone tells me what they mean, they better damn well be telling me what they mean, because I'm not gonna play mind games with them. If you tell me you're not upset then I'll believe you're not upset, I'm honouring you and your words and trusting that you're being upfront and honest with what you want me to know. And if you secretly are upset, it's not my responsibility to know that, you did not tell me.

Likely an outdated one, or one that's already been given a number of times, but – Physical Books.

I'm not entirely 'anti' e-reader, the benefits are obvious. I'm just VERY pro physical book.

Mine is that I miss the days when physical media (DVDs, VHS, etc) was the main way to own media

The third one is my old person trait. Also, grumpiness, and wanting the right to repair my own devices.

Yeah that line was used by my abusers way to often. They just "can't understand" why I'd go no contact. As if the last 300 explanations were somehow non existent. Nope. I don't owe you anything.

And my old person trait is my walking stick I suppose.

I don't want an iPad glued to my car's dashboard. Touch screens are fine but the current screen sizes and placement are ridiculous. It's a car, the screen shouldn't be distracting you.

My old person trait is when someone offers me coffee, I look at my watch.

10pm being late. When I was young I would stay up until 2-3 am doing stuff.

My old person trait is that I don't like short form video, I learn and internalize less and find that my day is chipped away at by tiktok or youtube shorts when I allow myself to watch them.

My old person trait is that I want to not be milked for data

My old person trait is that I think it’s insulting for there to be an option to tip when going through a drive through.

Most of these "old person traits" are stuff most people agree with, just like r/unpopularopinion. We've been cursed with reddit.

I kinda agree with you op on ghosting being unacceptable, but NOBODY is entitled to see my face NO ONE. It is not ghosting to straight up tell someone "I am no longer interested in continuing to stay in contact with you."

Likewise, my old person trait is the belief that your identity and all details pertaining to it are PERSONAL including voice, likeness, biometric statistics, location, interests - basically, the default human presence online is TEXT ONLY AND NO DESCRIPTION OF ANYTHING CONCRETE until and unless they choose to intentionally disclose more, and nobody, not one mother FUCKING person OR THING has the right to demand of you any more than that. Lastly, that you should guard your information greedily and viciously.

My old person trait is I think cashless-only businesses should be illegal.

Can't tell if this is face value mockery of younger generations willingly submitting to being fucked over by corporations for profit (maybe because of dependance on the convenience of modern technology), or if this is actually younger people making light of the abysmal state of consumer protection (probably caused by the older generation).

Maybe it's Poe's law, maybe it's a bit of both, or maybe this is just my own old person trait.

I dislike and distrust short form video based social media. But that seems to be the common response.

IDK if I even consider that an "old person" trait though because there are lots of Zoomers that seem to hate it to. Though I wonder if that's because generational cultures are melding together more because of the internet.

My old person trait is that a digital file I paid for should be DRM free.

My old person trait is that I think kids today are underinformed and overopinionated, especially when it causes them to hold opinions with which I disagree. All other times the kids are alright.

My old person trait is that I don't trust paying with your phone. My whole family does it and it has never gone wrong, but I feel uneasy

My old person trait is that I think that the company I buy a product from should be the seller and the shipper of the product.

• Just installed a messenger. It uses more RAM than my first PC had for displaying a simple, empty list. I find that inexcusable.

I think everybody here has an old person trait. Joining the fediverse

I don't understand TikTok... at all. Like, what's even the point as a user?

If you put something in my mailbox, where it is explicitly labelled that your unregistered shit is unwelcome. I will come out and find your parked car.

Did you think your stupid shit was that important? If I am selling my house I will never use Ben Gow. Or any of the others that are too stupid to read. Those people who cannot read basic requests - "NO JUNKMAIL" meaning your advertising shit, are not going to get used.

You will never get commission (or a purchase) you dumbshit losers, too dumb to read a mailbox sign, your definately too stupid to be given the risk of selling my asset.

My OPT is that if it's loud and expensive, I probably don't want to go there. And I haven't since I was 20.

My old person trait is thinking that you should be able to read posts on Twitter without an account.

My old person trait is that I don't think websites should require JavaScript to render, only use JS for interactive elements that are absolutely necessary for the function of your website. I generally accept that I may have to use JS to post and comment, but to read something should never require me to enable it.

My phone opens links in a browser and they don't work in the browser ¯⁠\⁠_⁠ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ⁠_⁠/⁠¯

My old person trait is nothing on the internet should expect a fee for use, streaming services excluded.

I remember the days when you paid for having the internet and that's it. No content hidden behind some patron paywall or membership fee. Content was willfully shared and distrubuted because that's what the internet is for that and infornation.

My old person trait is that no one is allowed to be mad at me for not answering a random phone call. Sometimes it's ok to leave your phone in the other room while watching a movie, or (gasp!) At home while you're out gardening.

My age.

Driving slow, leaving early and arriving early. I usually drive a bit below the speed limit, and always follow speed limit signs. It keeps people safe, even if their own impatience makes them tailgate eachother 10 cars in a row behind me. Some people like to be in a hurry when they drive and don't know how to relax and drive calmly, I've never been sure why.

My boomer trait: I don't use big social media apps like most people my age (19). You could argue that it's pretty common but it always comes up in conversation. I'd rather not be concerned about someone else’s life, but engage with people who talk about their experiences and knowledge.

I prefer to talk to individuals on phones rather than texting a long conversation. If it's a quick question (yes/no) or short answer texting is ok. But I find it taking longer and more tedious to text out an ongoing conversation over 20 minutes versus just calling and getting straight to the point and getting the information you need in 5 minutes.

My old person trait is if you have something to ask me that is going to require a detailed answer call me or email me, don't text me. I'm not going to spend time typing out a long involved answer on that freakin' tiny ass keyboard.

My old person trait is that I listen to old radio shows and watch a ton of classic movies and shows.

I'm 28 and don't even know when I discovered this exactly but on archive.org there's a group of people called the Old Time Radio Researchers Group who catalogue and archive all of the old radio shows. Some of the episodes sound like they could have been recorded yesterday just because they're in such high quality.

online shopping, mainly Amazon. i would rather try 100 different stores looking for what i need than to shop on Amazon.

I'm so guilty of ghosting, but I feel like it really is difficult to stay in touch with people, the more time passes. However, I do eventually answer after 2 months to 2 years from when the last message was sent, though

Breaking wind when I cough

Everybody should be in bed by 11pm, midnight on the weekends. Nothing good happens after that. Get your beauty sleep.

My old person trait is beginning any request with “May I…?” instead of “Can I…?”

It's that everything annoys me?

I don't use my phone to pay at the POS and I refuse to do so. I will always carry around my card and use that.

All you old people sound pretty cool honestly.

My OPT is that not everything makes me cringe. If you cringe too much your face might really get stuck like that.

That all current, popular, music really sucks.

I don't like social media.

My old person trait is that I write primarily in cursive and prefer it.

I guess I'm older than I thought.

My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.

Mine is I get unreasonably annoyed whenever teenagers are loud in public places.

Where should I start? I like to own my music, stream it from my server @home, I like to use a calculator, just because I like them. And I like to do things in a terminal, even when it takes 5x the time and a hand full of code. I like to connect things with cables instead of wireless, still faster and more secure, got a full cupboard of cables and adapters, I even collect movies and ebooks on my drives with the thought of "the day the internet brakes down I'll be the king here". Maybe it's because I AM old?! That kind of old, there was a time I spent money for a ringtone.

I somewhat agree with your old person trait. But not face to face. At least a text saying not interested/I don't want to hang out anymore and then ghosting. Nobody owes you a face to face conversation. Especially if they're not interested.

Shouting at young people who blast bad auto tuned rap music in front of my house :D Or"answering" with very very loud good rap music or black metal :D

My old person trait is that if you're going to do a ticket, don't code the bare minimum saying that you'll "get back to it later". You never have time later, and now there's shitty code in our app that needs to be fixed or worked around.

I don't use any social media except LinkedIn, and I have that set to all private. Just use it when I am looking for a job. I do stare at my phone all day though, but instead I am reading about board games, world news, and technology from other places.

Curated Tumblr content is always so much better than Twitter's. We need a Tumblr posts community in here.

Mine is that hook up culture is a lazy alternative to finding someone to build a meaningful relationship with

My old person trait is refusing to buy things on internet and wanting to buy them in person. The funny thing is: My mom (63) have no problem on purchasing things online; while I (31) am afraid to do that!

Is wanting kids to get off my lawn an old person's trait?

My old person trait is that cars should have physical buttons for at the very least climate control and media.

I've never tried it but I've heard that if you swear at the cosomer service robots enough they'll automatically send you to a person. Again, never tried it so unsure. I normally just try to avoid things that require me to call CS.

My ankles crack like someone is throwing those little rock baggies that pop with every step way too often. I have declared that my wife finds it enduring despite her near constant shock at the loudness and frequency. Also her PT friends says I have loose ankles for which I am uncertain how to prepare or prevent for whatever fate has for me.

i have never stayed out past midnight and i don't plan to start any time soon. if i get drunk enough and you try to keep me out i'll literally just fall asleep somewhere.

My old person trait is I think people should remove their headphones when interacting with each other IRL

I think people who deliver food should actually hand it to a person instead of just leaving it by the door.

My ye old ass trait is to take sunglasses off when talking face to face with someone, looking people in the eyes creates a more connected conversation.

Company call centers should - after a reasonable wait - put you in contact with a bone and flesh human and not a fucking 010001101 robot, also those humans should be paid decently, since I don't envy the insults they, unfairly, take

My old person trait is that often prefer phonecalls over text messages.

I think that buying something should be more convenient than pirating in.

My old person trait is that I exclusively wear bathrobes unless I begrudgingly leave the house.

My old person trait is that anything that unnecessarily connects to the internet is suspicious and leaking my info.

All the words of wisdom I ever needed was in Grateful Dead lyrics.

My OPT is gardening and also being so out of whatever "it" is

My age

My old person trait is that I always prefer physical media over streaming media.

I get worked up over other people's spatial awareness, especially as it relates to walking on a sidewalk or driving. People will take up all the space on a sidewalk, they will open their doors as cars are going by, they will walk out into traffic, they move around as if other people do not exist, they will stand and congregate in the middle of a walkway. I find it wildly disrespectful and dangerous. I feel like when I'm driving people are constantly putting their wellbeing into my hands and gambling that I have the skills and awareness to not let them get in a wreck or get run over. When I am walking down the sidewalk, I feel few people are managing space in a way that keeps the sidewalk available to as many people as possible while other people are basically pushing me off the sidewalk entirely so they can all walk like a wall, or bulldozer.

On the last one, a lot of places have switched to SMS to talk to someone faster. Even if they take just as long it's a lot less frustrating that waiting on hold.

Restaurant menus should be on paper, not a QR code.

1. Videos should be landscape, 4:3 preferably, not portrait.
2. When I turn on a computer, it should be ready (and pref say READY) in a few seconds, not minutes and need Internet access.
3. Email should be fully punctuated, have correct grammar and a premise, argument, and conclusions.
4. I'm tolerant on short SMS or pager texts, but if it's used as immediate mail, all texts, IM, and social media messages should also be like #3.

My old person trait is that I am saving money for retirement

My old person triat is that i dont think i owe you shit and if i ghosted you it might be for a reason.

Tabs belong below the address bar on a browser, not above. Also the menu bar should always be a thing and there should be a title bar as well, not merging the two or three (including tabs) into one single bar.

My old person trait is that my knees started to pop and creak in my early 20s

My old person trait is you should be able to order a "coffee", small, medium or large at Starbucks, without having to learn a new language.

Taking notes with a pencil. Since everyone likes to type their notes. I don’t.

My trait is I think cars are too digital and should be analogue. Giant touch panels are distracting and have generally bad UI design. You can control an A/C with 3 dials, 4 if you have zones and don’t need to look down at all. Pinnacle of engineering.

I will never own a car that has features behind a paywall or that I can’t directly control. Computer cars are fine as long as I have root.

Turning off my phone when I got home and during week end to enjoy the moment

Can’t upvote these enough.

My old person trait is that I exclusively wear bathrobes unless I begrudgingly leave the house.

I got shingles when I was 11

Being annoyed by kids these days wanting this new thing called "money" in exchange for necessities

Even if vinyl is a big hit these days it's still my old guy trait. I just bought new high tech dampener feet for my turn table.

My old person trait is that I think ‘ghosting’ is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.

Sadly "ghosting" is the norm where I'm from. Sadly.

My old person trait is... get off my lawn you little sh*ts!!

I agree to all of that...

I have to eat dinner by 5pm

Mine is that photos should ideally be printed, not stored in a cloud somewhere that you have to pay for forever or you lose them.

Calling these "old person traits" is making it sound like they are no longer valid. All points in the image are things any sensible person would agree with

Yeah, once. Or 732 times but at some arbitrary number you have all the right in the world to ghost people IMO.

The dishwasher (houses that have them) in most cases is located next to the sink. Put the dirty dishes in the dishwasher, let’s cut out the middle man.

I am 18 and almost all of the traits u guys commented kind of apply to me.

Old person traits vary with generation from what I'm reading

My old person trait is being completely unwilling to use the self checkouts because they always brick out on me

Too many to choose from.

Nah, even the young kids know that’s all bullshit.

The second and third ones from the top are definitely biggies for me.

Ghosting never happened in the days when all correspondence was written

Preferring to see people in-person rather than remote. I wasn't too happy when a bunch of my coworkers switched to remote work. It's really not the same.

ITT- classical conservatives.

my old person trait is that i am a 30 year old caravanner

My old person trait thinks far left are bloody stupid, far right are slightly better.