Bloomberg: Apple targets 2028 release date for its own electric vehicle

3 years ago by L4sBot to c/technology

Bloomberg: Apple targets 2028 release date for its own electric vehicle::Project Titan, the Apple electric car project, has been underway since 2015. But the project has faced numerous delays and...

espentan 77 points 3 years ago

Proprietary charging ports/stations, $50/KWh.
Increasingly slower acceleration as the vehicle goes out of warranty.
Any attempt at repairing faults with the car is a breach of TOS.
Turn signals, headlights, stereo.. all features are $5/month on the Apple Store.
Apple Maps will guide you into ravines and gardens.

Apple lovers would mortgage their home just to be on the waiting list.

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Plopp 41 points 3 years ago

The underside is made of glass.
You have to hold the steering wheel at 9 and 3 or it won't work.
Is only compatible with the Apple ecosystem of accessories such as wheels, tires, child seats etc.

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MrSebSin 21 points 3 years ago

The charge port is on the bottom.

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sorghum 8 points 3 years ago

Acceleration and brake pedals are butterfly

Door close sensors have to be calibrated upon replacement by a proprietary tool not made available to the public

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CosmoNova 3 points 3 years ago

EU forces USB-C charger on it because the board computer is technically a smartphone.

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Bakachu 5 points 3 years ago

Locks you out if it detects an Android device on you or any of your passengers.

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coffeebiscuit 2 points 3 years ago

Nonono! That’s not how “you’re holding it wrong works! It’s 11 and 7.

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nullPointer 23 points 3 years ago

all windows are opaque, you need apple vision pro to see out.

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coffeebiscuit 3 points 3 years ago

*write that down, write that down!

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Aopen 10 points 3 years ago

3rd party charging stations throttled to half of power
3rd party parts will display random errors while driving
glowing apple logo 24/7
system updated till 2100
locked bootloader
proprietary tires
583 types of screwdrivers required to disassemble 83636 unique screws
scientists having to invent new substance to unglue battery
critical error no 62 bricking car, no one knows what it means
fatal design flaw gets never fixed, drop of water connects engine trace with main computer trace, everything burned with 100 kV
hard to reach weak chip, because manufacturer wanted to save $0.0006

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Buddahriffic 2 points 3 years ago

seats are sold separately, are basic with no adjustability but follow aesthetic. Costs $10,000 each.
replaces high and low beams with mid beams so it's less confusing for the user.
no speakers or anywhere to plug them in, but your Apple representative will be happy to upsell you a set of air buds and chargers for each seat.

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tigerjerusalem 2 points 3 years ago

proprietary light bulbs, tires and air valves.
can only open anything engine related like fluids at the dealership.
can only fix broken windows at the dealership.
repairing means having to swap the old car for a new one for a fee, or stay with the defective car. The old car will be shredded to "save the environment", following their "green" practices.

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the_q 60 points 3 years ago

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simonced 28 points 3 years ago

You'll have to flip your car to charge it lol.

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willya -4 points 3 years ago

I know this is all android nerds commenting on something they don’t care about for some reason but my guess would be that by then we’ll just be driving over a pad in our garages and not have to touch anything.

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AaronMaria 2 points 3 years ago

Wireless charging for a car would be a terrible idea(possible exceptions for specific cases eg. charging while driving). Wireless charging is inefficient which doesn't matter that much for a small battery like a phone's but for a car's it certainly would.

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willya 2 points 3 years ago

I understand by today’s standards. Ideally, though this would be how shit would work in my opinion. I’m not talking about now, I’m talking about the future.

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sugartits -1 points 3 years ago

Good luck breaking the laws of physics...

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the_q 1 point 3 years ago

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willya 2 points 3 years ago

The wireless on iPhones isn’t even proprietary. Hopefully automakers agree on a standard in that regard. Tesla already has one in the works so they’ll probably be first.

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Nollij 31 points 3 years ago

You can 100% just look to Tesla to see what will happen. Tesla has been following the Apple model ("but on cars") since the beginning.

Proprietary connectors? ✔️
Walled garden of accessories? ✔️
Blocking independent repairs? ✔️
Highly integrated experience? ✔️
Sleek and different, but not necessarily good? ✔️
Reality Distortion Field? ✔️

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redcalcium 13 points 3 years ago

Well, at least the upcoming Apple car will have perfect panel alignments.

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jivandabeast 4 points 3 years ago

You hope.

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helenslunch 6 points 3 years ago

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Nollij 4 points 3 years ago

I was referring to the chargers (home and other). I know there's a rich history, but I also know that it wasn't being released free and clear when CCS was being developed.

I acknowledge that they are now releasing NACS to the public. In other news, Apple is now using using USB-C. These may or may not be related.

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helenslunch 4 points 3 years ago

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Dyf_Tfh 2 points 3 years ago

I personally think that Tesla plan is to forcefully change the IRA bill that mandate CCS connector on all federally funded charging station.

With this bill, Tesla could lose their charging network advantage in the medium term, or even worse, be burdened by an obsolete "non-standard" in the long term.

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Nollij 1 point 3 years ago

~6 months ago, they were completely proprietary. It's being opened up now, but it doesn't change the history. Tesla home chargers would not work on anything else. The cars came with an adapter to allow them to use J1772 chargers. The adapters to use a Tesla level 1/2 charger on a J1772 car are still hard to find, and mostly from sketchy sources.

Tesla was also forced to adopt (or at least become compatible with) CCS2 in Europe. It's not unreasonable to think that it could happen in the US. Releasing NACS puts them ahead of the curve rather than behind.

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Ghostalmedia 23 points 3 years ago

This is something that I probably won’t buy, but I’m curious to see what Apple would do with an instrument cluster.

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jopepa 8 points 3 years ago

Whatever your opinion of the business and products, it’s a hard argument to make against their tangible UI.

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msage 5 points 3 years ago

I'm the outsider, I hate their UIs. Anytime I have to solve any issue on an Apple device, I want to give up.

At least Macs have terminal, but iPads are way out of my comfort zone

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jopepa 2 points 3 years ago

I meant like their tactile hardware, specifically. They make things that feel dialed in and designed for intuitive use, aesthetics, and quality feel. Considering car manufacturers have been big fans molded plastic with sharp unbeveled edges for the past 20 years with uncomfortable interiors, I’m curious what they would come up with instead.

I don’t do much under the hood work with my computers though and I’ve heard that they sacrifice a lot of that versatility to make users of all experience levels pretty intuitive, so I can imagine that would be frustrating for someone working on them. So I think I get what you’re saying.

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msage 3 points 3 years ago

I'm sorry, but nothing with Apple is intuitive to me, and I have no idea how people work with their hardware or software.

Car manufacturers are focusing on keeping the price low, and they used to focus a lot on safety, both inside and outside the car. So let us see where this one goes.

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DJDarren 13 points 3 years ago

Disappointed to see very little in the way of actual discussion, and just a load of shitposting.

But to be fair, this is almost certainly bollocks. It was bollocks when it was first floated a decade ago, and it remains so. As much as the oft-rumoured Apple TV set was.

At best, Apple are expanding what they offer in-car, which, y’know, they’re already doing anyway.

Why would Apple want to get the car building market? It makes no sense at all.

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SlurpDaddySlushy 3 points 3 years ago

Isn't Apple TV a thing though? It's been a thing for a long time.

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thecrotch 3 points 3 years ago

It's not a TV though, it's a streaming box. If they ever do make an actual TV that's going to be really confusing.

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DJDarren 2 points 3 years ago

The other reply has covered what Apple TV is, but for context; some 15 years ago there were regular reports that Apple were about to release their own TV set.

At a glance, this isn’t too dumb; they already had a standalone monitor, and the difference between an iMac and an LCD TV isn’t huge. But give it more than a moment’s thought and you realise that it’s complete bollocks. People replace computers semi regularly because more powerful ones come along. How often do you replace your TV?

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willya 2 points 3 years ago

Happens on mostly every apple post. Super cringe.

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cloudless 7 points 3 years ago

My predictions:

It will be the best looking car ever.
It will have the best user interface both in terms of usability and look and feel.
It will have the most advanced autonomous driving.
It will be expensive.
It won't support Android Auto.
Samsung and Xiaomi will copy it.

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Petter1 12 points 3 years ago

You should have written ["best"] not [best]

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Ghyste 2 points 3 years ago

I believe that Xiaomi has already introduced a car now, actually.

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holycrap 6 points 3 years ago

Let me guess. It'll only operate on Apple-approved roads, can only be charged by Apple branded chargers and get bricked after 2 years when "It's no longer supported"

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Nawor3565 35 points 3 years ago

Look, I dislike Apple's walled-garden as much as the next guy, but let's give credit where it's due. Apple has been phenomenal at supporting its older devices, much longer than most Android manufacturers. The iPhone 7 only recently stopped getting updates, and it was from 2016. The standard for Androids is still 2 years, so when it comes to long term device support, the point undeniably goes to Apple.

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helenslunch 9 points 3 years ago

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redcalcium 2 points 3 years ago

Both Samsung and Google have committed to 7 years at this point.

Only on certain models.

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helenslunch 1 point 3 years ago

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Nawor3565 1 point 3 years ago

Pretty much every smaller Android manufacturer only gives two years of updates. Google and Samsung are the biggest two, and it's great that they're giving longer support, but if you want to try another manufacturer (Asus, for example), you're getting two years.

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helenslunch 1 point 3 years ago

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BossDj 5 points 3 years ago

Apple users are getting settlement checks starting this month because Apple lost its lawsuit over intentionally throttling previous model phones with their "updates"

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skulblaka 3 points 3 years ago

That's what moved me off the Apple ecosystem. Can't use any of my apps unless I update my phone, every update made my phone continually slower.

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tsonfeir -6 points 3 years ago

Well the same would happen to your android if you got updates.

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Plopp 4 points 3 years ago

Indeed. As much as I love shitting on Apple, the lifespan of their phones is one of only two things that has made me ever consider an iPhone. They're great on that.

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electric 3 points 3 years ago

apple product

life span

I just got told today when going to the library to ask for an Apple device for Xcode to specifically request one of the brand new laptops because the full size Macs are outdated.

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garretble 2 points 3 years ago

I bought a 2014 Mac Mini for $60 a couple months ago. It still runs just fine, and literally yesterday it got a new security update. That's ten years of support.

People can make fun of Apple for myriad things, but not supporting their devices is not one of them.

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erwan 0 points 3 years ago

My fusion drive iMac was rendered unusable by an OS update that was optimized for SSD and put any hard drive Mac to a crawl.

I had to change to a SSD, which was very fun because I had to unglue the screen and glue it back when I was done.

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Drasglaf 0 points 3 years ago

And it will cost at least 10M.

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TheFriar 4 points 3 years ago

See, all I can imagine is a big iPad on wheels.

Started with the pod, then made a slightly larger screen and turned it into a phone, then made it even bigger and turned it into a tablet…now make it into a car.

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dhorse 2 points 3 years ago

Thank god Balmer is no longer in charge of Microsoft or we would soon have a Microsoft car. It would look vaguely like the Apple car and have one unique feature that is so poorly implemented it is worthless.

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chemicalwonka 0 points 3 years ago

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