Your AI Girlfriend Is a Data-Harvesting Horror Show
3 years ago by Flying Squid to c/technology
I'd have to actually test my backup strategy
They sound fun
I think my wife is cheating on me with my self hosted AI girlfriend's boyfriend that lives in the same database file. What do I do?
Sounds like a job for Little Bobby Tables
- My Canadian Girlfriend
Broke, Busted, Burned Out
- My Canadian Server-Farm Girlfriend
Smart, Sexy, Superconductive
You have to at least move out of your AI parentsā server rack before letting your AI girlfriend move in.
Nvidia^TM
You need a little gpu server farm for proper models & context sizes though. Single consumer gpus don't have enough vram for that.
Yeah, I heard they're also very privacy friendly.
Unless you piss them off
Hey now, I don't want anyone looking at my girlfriend's source code. That's personal!
I donāt want anyone looking at my girlfriendās source code
it's okay, dude, we all already did...
The bots (what the actual girlfriends or whatever other characters are) aren't the problem. You can find them on chub.ai for example or write them yourself fairly easily. The issue the software, and even more so the hardware. You need something like the mentioned Kobold.ccp or oobabooga, and then you'd also need a trained LLM model that you can get on huggingface.co, which is already where it gets complicated (they'll be loaded within kobold or oobabooga). You also need to understand how they work in regards to context sizes & bytes, because they need a lot, and I mean A LOT of vram to work properly. Basically, the more vram you have, the better the contextual understanding, their memory is. Otherwise you'd have a bot that maybe knows to only contextualize the last couple messages. For paid services like novelai.net you basically have your bots run through big ass server farms with lots of GPUs that bundle their vram and processing power, giving you "decent" context sizes (imo the greatest weak point of LLMs and it is deeply rooted in how they work) and decent speed. NovelAI also supports front-ends like SillyTavern which is great for local bot management and settings, regardless if you self host or use a paid service (NOT EVERY PAID SERVICE HAS AN API FOR THIS! OpenAI's ChatGPT technically does too but they do not allow NSFW content and can ban you for that if caught).
There's a bunch of "free" online services too, like janitorai.com but most of them have slow speeds and the chat degrades significantly after just a few messages, because they have low context sizes. The better / paid models suffer from this degradation too but it is slower and less noticeable, at least at first. You can use that to get an idea of how LLMs work though.
Edit: Should technically self explanatory / common sense, but I would advise not to share ANY personal information through online service chats that could identify you as a person!
I don't know, I'm not a weeb.
itll do the opposite im afraid, OW! Hot... umm whats that awful smell of burning plastic.
Basically, the more vram you have, the better the contextual understanding, their memory is. Otherwise youād have a bot that maybe knows to only contextualize the last couple messages.
Hmm, if only there was some hardware analogue for long-term memory.
What are you trying to say? Do you understand what the problem is?
I guess I'm wondering if there's some way to bake the contextual understanding into the model instead of keeping it all in vram. Like if you're talking to a person and you refer to something that happened a year ago, you might have to provide a little context and it might take them a minute, but eventually, they'll usually remember. Same with AI, you could say, "hey remember when we talked about [x]?" and then it would recontextualize by bringing that conversation back into vram.
Seems like more or less what people do with Stable Diffusion by training custom models, or LORAs, or embeddings. It would just be interesting if it was a more automatic process as part of interacting with the AI - the model is always being updated with information about your preferences instead of having to be told explicitly.
But mostly it was just a joke.
Yes, databases (saved on a hard drive). SillyTavern has Smart Context but that seems not that easy to install so I have no idea how well that actually works in practice yet.
I tried oobabooga and it basically always crashes when I try to generate anything, no matter what model I try. But honestly, as far as I can tell all the good models require absurd amounts of vram, much more than consumer cards have, so you'd need at least like a small gpu server farm to local host them reliably yourself. Unless of course you want like practically nonexistent context sizes.
You'll want to use a quantised model on your GPU. You could also use the CPU and offload some parts to the GPU with llama.cpp (an option in oobabooga). Llama.cpp models are in the GGUF format.
See my other reply for some basic info & pointers.
Hey Sugar, which of these pics have traffic lights on them?
bots gotta help each other
Isn't this what every app on your phone is already doing? Why would "AI Girlfriend App" be any better than Facebook or Google?
It's even more insidious because these apps ask for the data upfront under the guise of "getting to know you better"
How can your AI girlfriend truly love you back unless you give it your real name, age, photos of your face, mother's maiden name, social security number, and genetic material? /s
lol itās not. Thatās the point. Itās all the same sort of companies putting these fucking things out. Google and Facebook are both working on their own AI. Itās been shown over and over how theyāre scraping all available dataāpublic or private when availableāso why the fuck would a newer tech company be any different? Itās the state of capitalism. The markets are focusing more on hyper focused data, so thatās what any profitable tech company is doing. Invading your fucking privacy.
Thatās why itās not a surprise. Because Facebook and google helped set the trend and determine the current tech market. And thatās the world these new āAI girlfriendsā are existing in.
Idk all my apps are open source and most don't connect to internet except ones that need it like eternity for reddit
Incels warned us about females
As did Ferengi.
Giving the AI clothing was a mistake.
I, honestly, have absolutely no idea what that GIF has to do with my post yet... I fully accept this response. You have brought light into my life and I thank you.
24 thousand tracker calls in one minute.
That's impressively gross.
Like I could ever get an AI girlfriend. They'd never have me.
You need Lucy Lou bot.
It's amazing the way you NOTICE TWO THINGS.
People panned the game but this was the whole point of the NG Resonance character in Deus Ex Invisible War. People would basically tell this AI pop star intimate details about their lives and then the data was used against them and their local communities.
The shit I do for a discount on non-PiezoChem functionality.
"AI" is funny anyway because you're basically gaslighting them the whole time to have them behave as they're supposed to.
Either advertisers or the cops, possibly both want that information very much
This is the best summary I could come up with:
According to a new study from Mozillaās *Privacy Not Included project, AI girlfriends and boyfriends harvest shockingly personal information, and almost all of them sell or share the data they collect.
āAlthough they are marketed as something that will enhance your mental health and well-being, they specialize in delivering dependency, loneliness, and toxicity, all while prying as much data as possible from you.ā
Every single one earned the Privacy Not Included label, putting these chatbots among the worst categories of products Mozilla has ever reviewed.
Youāve heard stories about data problems before, but according to Mozilla, AI girlfriends violate your privacy in ādisturbing new ways.ā For example, CrushOn.AI collects details including information about sexual health, use of medication, and gender-affirming care.
One of the more striking findings came when Mozilla counted the trackers in these apps, little bits of code that collect data and share them with other companies for advertising and other purposes.
EVA AI Chat Bot & Soulmate pushes users to āshare all your secrets and desires,ā and specifically asks for photos and voice recordings.
The original article contains 545 words, the summary contains 177 words. Saved 68%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
My what now?
Why don't these people do what perfectly mentally unhealthy people do and just abuse the super chat of your local vtuber?
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Youāre just jealous of our love.
I didn't realise they are that realistic.
ROFL! There country be a more hilarious headline! I love it!
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This is why you should always selfhost your AI girlfriend.
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