For one, it's got Steve Jobs in it, and he's been dead since 2011.
That post seems to be missing.
Ensign_Crab 55 points 3 years ago
neidu2 10 points 3 years ago
I think that's the right choice. If i need to imagine "apple boss" the face of jobs appear in my mind. The current one is Tim Cook, right? I'm sure I'd recognize him if I saw his picture, but at the miment I'm not able to picture him.
Thekingoflorda 12 points 3 years ago
Ensign_Crab 2 points 3 years ago
Fair enough
OrgunDonor 17 points 3 years ago
I feel the Linux - Linux fanboy is very wrong these days. It does not have a monitor at 22 degrees
redcalcium 4 points 3 years ago
I'm often blinded by flickering due to the recent Nvidia issue on Wayland so it's still accurate.
MonkderZweite 1 point 3 years ago
Those square screens are gone now.
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Eyck_of_denesle 35 points 3 years ago
I disagree. They might not go out of their way to recommend windows but when any other alternative is mentioned they 100% start arguing.
I've seen people on r/programming complain that they hated linux and open source cause it gave them a way to use a feature in vlc that wasn't there natively. The other day I saw someone complaining that linux had window rules.
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pmk 9 points 3 years ago
As a long time Linux user, I had a humbling experience when I started using OpenBSD and had to look up all the details like "what is /dev/rsd1c?" or "how do I connect to wifi automatically?" It's not hard, and it's right there in the manpages, but it was a little overwhelming figuring out everything. And then I was already used to the unix-like terminology, I can only imagine coming from windows.
TrickDacy 0 points 3 years ago
So considering most everyone who thinks Linux is too hard is going off the state of Linux 10 years ago or longer, I cannot agree with you. "You can possibly have an issue" is not something that even Microsoft's huge budget can save them from.
jlh 0 points 3 years ago
I think the key statement there is "has grown up using windows". Using Linux is no harder than using Windows, and in many scenarios it can even be easier. The smart kids these days are learning Linux first instead of taking a detour through old-school Windows.
Better hardware support will come with more popularity, there are always bugs with any operating system.
fakeman_pretendname 25 points 3 years ago
Your can conjure them up quite easily.
- Go to Steam Forums for a game that doesn't support Linux
- Post a new thread, politely asking about the possibility of native Linux support
- A Windows fanboy appears to tell you that you are wrong
- Warning: Since the introduction of the Steam Deck, it's a bit harder to conjure up a Windows fanboy on the Steam forums, so you might have to try on a couple of game forums to conjure up your Windows fanboy.
314xel 6 points 3 years ago
It was a default for so long that people just got used to the feel of it and its "ecosystem" if you can call it that.
I use Win at home and at work as my main desktop, because of familiarity, the apps I got used to and because I just don't feel comfortable with any Linux UI. I get annoyed when the Win UI gets even slightly changed between OS versions, so imagine how it would be for me just switching to Linux. I have a dual boot, but the Linux partitions always gather dust no matter the distro.
But I wouldn't touch a Windows server. I'm apt with the Linux on work servers, my home server, RaspberryPi and routers. It feeels like having swiss army knives and I feel at home in a command line.
This doesn't make me a fanboy, but I do get raised eyebrows from co-workers.
AlexWIWA 2 points 3 years ago
True. I've been enjoying Windows 10 now that I've really tuned it to my liking. It took too much work to get it there though so I don't really fanboy for it.
I wish there was a legitimate way to get the LTSC version because it's very close to my tuned one
mexicancartel 4 points 3 years ago
Have one?
FuglyDuck 8 points 3 years ago
There’s a lot out there if you know where to look.
Plenty in the windows support forums. Look for the guy who’s not an MS employee still there helping people. Don’t make too much fun, they’re the only ones who’re any good and sorting out issues…
EnderMB 3 points 3 years ago
Are they fanboys, though? I used to be one of those guys back when I used to help debug Windows permissions issues (it was always permissions issues) when getting .NET code to run on Windows 7. If anything, I think a lot of Windows people know that everything on Linux is far better supported and had more developer oversight, but ultimately these were the tools you had to use to use your language of choice.
If anything, it led to such a deep imposter syndrome that I ended up moving away from C#. While I could be just as productive in Windows as I was in Linux (even today), having to use "different" tools or run "special" commands to get something as basic as Ruby running on your OS constantly made you feel that you were running against the current.
dan 1 point 3 years ago
Not sure how long ago you used C#, but these days the entire .NET Framework and C# compiler are open-source and cross-platform, and the latest versions of .NET have native ahead-of-time compilation ("Native AoT") which lets you compile C# apps into a single executable file that can run on a system that doesn't have the framework installed.
Visual Studio is still Windows-only, but VS Code is available everywhere and has good C# support, and JetBrains Rider is great too.
You can get PowerShell on Linux too. PowerShell is really nice once you get a feel for it. You pipe objects rather than strings, so there's a lot you can do easily without needing to use grep/cut/sed to manipulate string streams.
EnderMB 1 point 3 years ago
I stopped around 2016, so it's been a while, but it's something I still really miss. I remember .NET Core being a thing, but didn't see enough movement in places looking to transition away, so I jumped over to a different stack.
friend_of_satan 41 points 3 years ago
That is surprisingly accurate.
yamapikariya 2 points 3 years ago
I mean it essentially boils down to "thing I don't use is bad".
friend_of_satan 17 points 3 years ago
I don't see that message in the image. Also, having used all three platforms for over 20 years, I feel like what I see in the image pretty accurately describes what a lot of the enthusiasts I've known in each camp describe about themselves and the others.
cmbabul 6 points 3 years ago
As someone else who uses all three on a weekly if not daily basis, the only one I disagree with is the Windows row, because i honestly have never met someone in person who I would describe as a fan of Windows, just folks that understand how to utilize it well. But even they shit talk it and Microsoft regularly
sxan 32 points 3 years ago
Wait... can a Mac run multiple monitors? It must be able to, but the only pictures I see Mac people posting of their desktops only ever have a single monitor. Clean desks and a minimalist aesthetic, but never multiple monitors.
GamingChairModel 9 points 3 years ago
There are issues with Macs and multiple monitors, but one thing they do great is that they can easily support multiple monitors with different dpi settings and refresh rates (including variable refresh rates), which turns into a big pain in the ass to get right in Linux.
aBundleOfFerrets 11 points 3 years ago
Look at this guy, never used wayland before
MonkeMischief 3 points 3 years ago
Wayland on Nvidia is finally getting to that "bit quirky but overall awesome" point, and it feels like my PC just got a major upgrade without switching any hardware. Absolutely buttery smooth 144hz and I love it. Plus no more having to block compositing to use my creative stuff like Blender and Krita smoothly! :D. Ride, hardware, ride!!!! HIYAH!!
KoalaUnknown 5 points 3 years ago
The M1/2/3 Pro, Max, & Ultra chips all support multiple displays. It’s just the base model chip that doesn’t.
olympicyes 2 points 3 years ago
M3 MacBook Air supports two external screens if you close the lid.
Beetschnapps 5 points 3 years ago
It’s like the same meme about developers.
In this format there’s usually a single column that is the core and everything else is an assumption.
In the developers meme designers are children eating paint because the column of truth is for software devs.
olympicyes 2 points 3 years ago
I’m the weirdo who regularly uses all three. I think a lot of Mac people use one screen because MacOS has better desktop switching than the other two OS, especially if you’re using a trackpad. I personally use two screens but have used as many as three.
ASeriesOfPoorChoices 2 points 3 years ago
I'm using 3 on my M1, so... * shrug *
cmbabul 1 point 3 years ago
I have three monitors in addition to my main iMac screen, coupling that with their extremely clean desktop switching has me by the balls until Wayland is fully working with Nvidia(if it’s not already, I admittedly am not paying attention until I stop getting OS updates)
Evil_Shrubbery 26 points 3 years ago
Well, at last Microsoft is micro and soft. Still behaving inappropriately.
Goblin_Mode 24 points 3 years ago
I'm a Windows user and have bwen for many many years. I recently started learning Linux so I can hopefully one day be competent enough to justify never having to buy Microsoft ^TM branded lube again.
My partner, and much of my friend group, are a Mac users.
I am a programmer so I know many many Linux people.
It is Shocking how accurate this meme is LOL
SloppyPuppy 23 points 3 years ago
I too stare at htop for hours
FlyingSquid 19 points 3 years ago
At the risk of being unpopular, I have a home with a decently-powered Mac desktop (I used to work as a video editor), a Linux notebook for my personal use, a Windows notebook as required for my daughter's online school and even a Chromebook for my wife's use because it was all she felt she needed.
This meme is accurate in some ways, but the biggest way in which it's accurate is that people judge others for the OS they choose as if it is some sort of character flaw if they choose the 'wrong' one.
Running all of these OSes in one home, I've been able to see the advantages and disadvantages of each and I can't really say any of them would be the right one for everyone, so I'm actually glad there's a range of options. Even if those options can be overpriced or bloated or difficult.
UsernameIsTooLon 6 points 3 years ago
MacOS is really the only one I never understood unless you're really tied to the Apple ecosystem.
I'd argue the "just use Linux" meme is more relevant for Mac users than Windows.
I want to love Linux as well, but it does require some troubleshooting skills I'm too lazy for these days Additionally, some of my games require anti-cheats that just don't work on Linux.
cmbabul 3 points 3 years ago
MacOS has in my experience the best multiple desktop system of any OS I’ve used, it’s also just a very very polished Unix system that I can always count on to work until my machine stops getting updates, and since it’s an Intel Mac as soon as it does I’ll put Linux on it.
Edit: this obviously ain’t a deal breaker but iTerm is the best terminal program I’ve ever used by a wide margin
borari 1 point 3 years ago
MacOS is really the only one I never understood unless you're really tied to the Apple ecosystem.
I'd argue the "just use Linux" meme is more relevant for Mac users than Windows.
At this point when I’m choosing a computer I’m really just choosing a hypervisor front end.
MacOS gives me all the familiarity and transferred knowledge that I built up with Linux, but with a much more polished desktop experience. I like the Messenger sync, it helps me actually notice texts from my partner when I’m rabbit-holing hard. I like Mail better than Outlook (or Thunderbird or whatever the modern mail client on Linux is now).
I just prefer MacOS as the glue between all my VMs that I work in each day. I’m personally on the desktop pc with Windows for gaming, MBP for all my work/hobby work (using VMs with whatever OS is necessary that day), and headless Debian on any servers train.
nickwitha_k 3 points 3 years ago
Personally, I think you've got the right approach.
Obi 2 points 3 years ago
Hey I also edit video and other graphics heavy tasks, as someone with all the OS you settled on Mac for work, is that because of reliability and lack of crashes? My machine with an i9 + 3090 is starting to blue screen kind of often, CPU fan errors when the fans work fine and I have the i9 throttled to keep it at reasonable temps... Always rejected Mac and if I could my machine would be on Linux but until PS+LR works on there I don't think I can switch.
FlyingSquid 3 points 3 years ago
That's a strange question from a video editor. I settled on it because it's been, or at least was when I got the Mac 7 years ago and the ones before it, the industry standard for decades and it facilitates with compatibility with other people you may be working on a project with.
ILikeBoobies 7 points 3 years ago
Always meme in .jxl
Overshoot2648 3 points 3 years ago
Damn you Chrome team!
Evil_Shrubbery 1 point 3 years ago
Windows flyboy
nickwitha_k 15 points 3 years ago
I'm a Linux user and I usually see Linux the way that it is depicted for the Windows user. The terminal is beautiful and my favorite interface for interacting with computers.
therealjcdenton 15 points 3 years ago
I have yet to meet one person that actively likes Windows, it's always that they use it because it's the only thing they know
You guys have Stockholm syndrome
RedditEnjoyer 4 points 3 years ago
it’s always that they use it because it’s the only thing they know
Or they are forced to use it because of X application that only supports Windows and Wine doesn't work well enough for it to run on Linux
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 4 points 3 years ago
I like windows for it's low latency ASIO drivers.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 1 point 3 years ago
Agree. If I were a professional musician making $$$ then OS would be a first preference.
Scrof 1 point 3 years ago
If Windows is good enough for John Carmack it's good enough for me. Tried Linux as my main driver for a couple years and there were nothing but hoops, problems and endless configurations to jump through. Why do I have to learn every goddamn thing about the operating system to use it properly? It's like washing your clothes by hand. Ever tried that? Well I had to for several months once, not fun at all. So yes I actively like Windows.
PainInTheAES 3 points 3 years ago
Alternatively you learned to jump through all of Window's hoops over the years of using it. Also, experience in the sense of configuration and hoops can vary wildly by distro. Linux has of course not always had the cleanest UI/UX but it's always getting better and simply does not have the level of investments as Windows or MacOS. When Linux does have investment and runs on corporate sponsored hardware it's usually pretty solid and easy to use e.g. ChromeOS, Android, and many server and cloud products. Also some people may appreciate the level of customizability that "washing clothes by hand" provides.
AdrianTheFrog 9 points 3 years ago
Kind of? There is one singular Linux distribution designed to work on macs, and it’s still missing a lot of features the last time I checked
ILikeBoobies 8 points 3 years ago
I don’t see Linux as surreal, just as the default computing experience
SkybreakerEngineer 4 points 3 years ago
I'd fix it, but I don't know how to find the determinant of a meme
SpiceDealer 4 points 3 years ago
Funny, I remember seeing this meme years ago. Still, very true.
joneskind 4 points 3 years ago
I'm a Macuser since 2008. I have 3 Raspberry Pi and a tower PC running Arch (BTW)
As a matter of fact, I switched to Mac OS X because I first switched to Linux.
Linux is fantastic. It can run on $10 potato or a $B100 server infrastructure.
The only thing I find absolutely terrible is Windows. And Windows users.
Besides, Linux users known Steve Jobs died. 13 years ago.
Now TBH, what I do hate is so called Linux users complaining about macOS being closed source (macOS kernel, macOS programming language, macOS Web engine are open source) while having a dual boot on Windows "to play games and use Adobe". Fuck those guys.
ikidd 4 points 3 years ago
I think the issue most have with Apple is the amount of money they demand to be a part of their walled garden. That's where the Jobs meme comes from, and nothing has changed on that front since he cratered.
$1500 for a phone that you don't own, forsooth.
SuperSpruce 0 points 3 years ago
As someone who has used all 3, MacOS is the worst overall. It combines the closed source nature of Windows with the limited software availability of Linux, and requires expensive hardware to run (look at the RAM/storage markups), and goes out of support artificially, just like Windows, and also is the least customizable out of the 3.
The only thing Mac is best for is if you have a lot of money, and either really hate Windows and need certain proprietary apps or are a prosumer or professional using Apple's professional software like Final Cut Pro and the like.
But for everything else, Windows and Linux does what MacOS does but better.
- Basic computer for web browsing? Linux
- Need that specific niche app? Windows, optional dual boot with Linux if you hate Windows
- Gaming? Windows is best and Linux is close behind, but MacOS is not even in the race
- Development? Linux all the way
I dual boot Windows and Linux (on 2 separate SSDs), and I think it's the best option for me.
linearchaos 4 points 3 years ago
I'll take one of each from the left column and all three on the bottom
chatokun 3 points 3 years ago
Having used all 3 and not totally hating any of them, all the Windows ones I agree with, the two Linux ones that isn't old computer I agree with, and I only agree with the money one for Mac. I don't have an issue with Mac OS more than Windows OS, but it is way overpriced. At least with Windows I haven't actually paid Microsoft much on thet front. Though if you add in other MS products then we're back to being screwed.
lemmy_nightmare 3 points 3 years ago
Nice.
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caustictrap -6 points 3 years ago
I use windows because it combines the best of both worlds. If you set it up correctly you will never think about switching to linux or mac.
ClusterBomb -15 points 3 years ago
Don't think I have shitty homophobic representation in my head tho 🤷
Olhonestjim 15 points 3 years ago
I didn't read it as gay bad, but rather that Microsoft fucks their users.
TrickDacy 9 points 3 years ago
It seems as though recently any joke that somehow could be construed as involving gayness became "homophobic" to a certain crowd. Nothing in this image says butt sex is bad. Is it homophobic to simply imply the obvious truth that submission in sex is a real thing?
graymess -3 points 3 years ago
It is literally the meaning behind the meme. There's a silhouette of two men labeled "you" and "Microsoft" with the Microsoft man depicted as the top, the one doing the fucking, the one in the stereotypical position of power in the act. The message is, "Microsoft fucks you like this man fucks this other man in the ass." I don't have to spell this out, it's what's in the picture.
Malfeasant 6 points 3 years ago
Getting bent over and fucked from behind isn't exclusive to homosexual men... And regardless, nobody is saying that's bad, if you're into it, go crazy. Most people get the hint that the picture represents unwanted sex, which I hope we can agree is bad regardless of your orientation.
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