Reddit has become the face of enshittification

2 years ago by 3volver to c/reddit

I just wanted to peek at the front page. I guess they don't want people to use their shit anymore. I'm starting to believe in the dead internet theory.

henfredemars 130 points 2 years ago

That’s actually a deprecation warning. You’re meant to move to a more modern platform.

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3volver 58 points 2 years ago

I'm already here.

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andrew 10 points 2 years ago

How do we know you're actually here though? 🤔

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Ultragigagigantic 3 points 2 years ago

From my limited understanding... If he was from a different instance he would have a username like this: username@nerdshit.nerdshit

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fuckingkangaroos 6 points 2 years ago

We'll make something better.

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BlueMagma 84 points 2 years ago

Can you guys stop talking about your ex ? You're with lemmy now, forget about the old bitch.

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Blaze 37 points 2 years ago

It's the Reddit community, juste block it if you don't want to see it

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BlueMagma 8 points 2 years ago

It's ok, I was mainly making a joke :-) I don't mind a reddit related post every once in a while, it's always funny to see what reddit turned into

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ExtremeDullard 26 points 2 years ago

I'm all for staying here on Lemmy: Lemmings are nicer than Redditors and the place is a lot higher S/N ratio.

But... sadly, due to inertia, Reddit is still where a lot of stuff is squarely at. There are long-established Reddit communities - often nice, well behaved communities - that don't give a toss about the Reddit drama, and are simply not interested in moving out.

I've been trying to kickstart an equivalent Reddit community here on Lemmy for almost a year. While there's a handful of members, it's basically just me infrequently posting in it. The original one on Reddit has almost 10K members, is fairly active, and clearly none of the members know anything about Lemmy - much less want to create an account and join my insignificant equivalent community. I keep it around in case Reddit enshittifies to such an extent that even those who don't care start taking notice. But at the moment, inertia is much too strong.

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JudahBenHur 9 points 2 years ago

which community? I tried to see if I could swing by to support your budding community whatever it is, so I had a look through your posts and couldnt see a community you moderate?

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ExtremeDullard 9 points 2 years ago

!amputee@lemmy.sdf.org

Strange because the first thing I see when I open my profile in a private window is that single community I moderate.

It's nice of you to want to help but it's the kind of community you typically join only when you're unlucky enough to be concerned 🙂

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JudahBenHur 3 points 2 years ago

haha yeah thats a pretty specific topic dude :) I'd say keep it up, someone who'd be happy to see it here will some day join lemmy and it'll mean something to them

I hear you, when I look at my profile I see that I moderate https://lemm.ee/c/badreligion (same problem, thousands back on whatever its called and a few upvotes, but rarely a comment. time and patience; we'll rule over c/ empires someday you and I

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SouthEndSunset 2 points 2 years ago

I was going to ask the same question, but I’d have nothing of real value to add. Great for those that do to have that kind of support though.

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iquanyin 1 point 2 years ago
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JudahBenHur 1 point 2 years ago path: 0 9705809 9707947 9708567 9709637 9720166, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Danterious 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah I've noticed a lot of these vague negative comments about lemmy and I particularly don't like them.

Its good to get specific so people can help if they are able.

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Tag365 2 points 2 years ago

Seems like the Bats community here on Lemmy.world was popular due to some new posts every day.

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Blaze 1 point 2 years ago

Hello,

I just pinged you into one of the communities we created for people in a similar situation to you (singler poster for a community, trying to keep it alive). Feel free to have a look there, I hope you'll find it interesting to be able to share your experience with others

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SpikesOtherDog 15 points 2 years ago

There is still content there. I find myself there often with a lot of web searches.

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SouthEndSunset 2 points 2 years ago

It hasn’t gone quite as bad as Twitter. Not yet anyway.

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Renegade_roosteR 8 points 2 years ago
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ruckblack 79 points 2 years ago

Lol yeah I can't get on it at work anymore. Goodbye to all the traffic they get from people looking for tech advice on corporate networks. Fucking morons.

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henfredemars 37 points 2 years ago

My work is also banned due to “suspicious” activity.

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RGB3x3 51 points 2 years ago

They're banning VPNs. I have no idea why, but reddit is unusable at this point.

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henfredemars 24 points 2 years ago

It could be a simple way to prevent bots which clearly isn’t working, or perhaps users who reveal their IP address are worth more to advertisers.

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fuckingkangaroos 10 points 2 years ago

users who reveal their IP address are worth more to advertisers.

I suspect they're able to track a lot of they have your IP address.

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DarkThoughts 2 points 2 years ago

Don't they have an onion site?

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Kid_Thunder 12 points 2 years ago

So people training their AI models have to pay them instead of scraping them for free. Got to make those share holders happy, right? Even if it goes against its own founding ideals.

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_number8_ 9 points 2 years ago

i've never had an office job but it's extremely obnoxious they seem to regularly filter the internet like you're in school. there were so so many important resources (including youtube) which had legitimate educational and technical value they'd take away as some bullshit austerity ritual

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Ultragigagigantic 5 points 2 years ago

A shame you had lame tech Bros at your job. Ive had a couple office jobs and they both restricted a ton of stuff but they left reddit open.

Undercover MSoutlook browsing

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theherk 2 points 2 years ago

That isn’t the issue here. I agree with you, but in this case the filter is on Reddit's side. It is common and justifiable for corporate machines to use a vpn. Sometimes public traffic doesn’t go through, but not always.

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ZeroCool 63 points 2 years ago

Yeah, reddit started blocking VPN users a few months ago unless you log in.

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Faresh 21 points 2 years ago

Also TOR, but you can easily tell it to use a different circuit and most of the times it isn't blocked, in my experience.

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njordomir 42 points 2 years ago

Every time I see that stupid little alien, I change my mind about visiting. I see Spez's smug grin on that stupid little goo blob avatar and it just makes me want to find my info anywhere else.

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AtariDump 27 points 2 years ago

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fuckingkangaroos 8 points 2 years ago

All jokes aside, fuck that greedy sociopath.

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dylanTheDeveloper 4 points 2 years ago

Steve Fart Huffer

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Ultragigagigantic 13 points 2 years ago

Anytime I think about making a comment if I happen to be on reddit researching a niche thing, I think "do I want to give Spez $5? FUCK NO!"

He can make his own content. I couldn't imagine putting in a thankless job moderating and watching that shitter slide up to the bank to withdrawal your free time and effort.

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suction 23 points 2 years ago

Tech companies are now the hot new thing for MBAs to put into their resumes. That’s why you see this enshittification. Used to be the money people didn’t want to work in tech because it made them feel dumb. That was what made the industry work. Those times are over.

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Melvin_Ferd 27 points 2 years ago

MBA's do not get enough shit for being a root cause of the deterioration for modern life.

It really is a bullshit career. Companies should be run by people who came up in the industry and learned all the pitfalls rather than college kids who learned how to not pay contracts until they're legally forced to.

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lauha 1 point 2 years ago

Reddit got run down because they were trying to make it turn more profit because they were planning to IPO for maximum value.

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Telodzrum -7 points 2 years ago
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suction 5 points 2 years ago

Found the junior mba

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sparkle 2 points 2 years ago

I don't imagine the tens of thousands of shitty tech startups by people who don't know anything about tech which are popping up and exploding (in the bad way) are doing so well for the "success rate" now.

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laffytaffer 19 points 2 years ago

Changing the url to sh.reddit.com lets you get around it. Been using that when I've needed to look up a reddit thread at work.

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Ultragigagigantic 4 points 2 years ago

Thank you

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yhvr 18 points 2 years ago

While I do agree that this is bad, I'm a little confused—what does this have to do with dead internet theory? Doesn't that relate to users being bots?

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3volver 16 points 2 years ago

That no one really uses reddit, that it's dominated by bots masquerading as real people.

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Onii-Chan 18 points 2 years ago

I swear you can actually spot entire chains of comments consisting of only bots replying to other bots on every single submission that makes it to the front page. It's baffling how fast and hard reddit has fallen.

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RandomlyRight 4 points 2 years ago

Do you have an example? I’m genuinely curious, I’ve heard a lot about this theory but can’t really imagine how you would differentiate bots from mindless redditors farming for karma by saying „This.“

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DarkThoughts 4 points 2 years ago

The obvious ones are simple repost bots. They start with 1 account reposting some popular submission, then you'll likely find at least 1 or more other accounts in the comments reposting a popular comment from the original post. They typically are created at the same time and have a similar pattern of maybe a handful of comments and submissions. When I was still using Reddit I saw them all the time on /r/all. Nowadays you also find a lot of bots reposting someone else's comment in the same chain, maybe with slight grammatical changes. There's some people and even a bot account that call those accounts out. I've seen a metric shitton of this happening since the last big shitstorm (which also really changed the content on /r/all for the worse).

I think LLM based ones are probably harder to spot because they would sound a lot more natural and their profiles would look more organic.

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Onii-Chan 1 point 2 years ago

Hey sorry for the late reply, I was just waiting for the perfect example, and I found one: https://kbin.social/...

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Immersive_Matthew 16 points 2 years ago

I went there the other day for the first time in a while and noticed how many ads there were and even ads disguised as notifications. Enshitification to the max. So glad I joined Lemmy.

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IcePee 3 points 2 years ago

I've logged in a few times recently and I've not seen (m)any ads. But I pay for prime. The subscription is hardly worth it as I've mostly moved to Lemmy. But there are still some communities that haven't made the jump.

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RubberElectrons 16 points 2 years ago

Anyone else find it ironic that the 'papers please' character wears a fedora?

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spikederailed 16 points 2 years ago

The only times I've seen that is if I'm trying to browse while on a VPN(mullvad in my case). And more often than not it's because it came up in a search.

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fne8w2ah 16 points 2 years ago

Fuck the hurensohn forever and always.

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geizeskrank 5 points 2 years ago

Meinten Sie vielleicht Burensohn oder Uhrensohn, werter Herr?

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RedStrider 13 points 2 years ago path: 0 9705881, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 4
DarkThoughts 1 point 2 years ago

Tried redlib-redirect but unfortunately that doesn't seem to do anything... :(

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CatTrickery 1 point 2 years ago path: 0 9705881 9709966 9711390, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 2
DarkThoughts 0 points 2 years ago

Ridiculous permissions. Pass.

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RedStrider 1 point 2 years ago path: 0 9705881 9709966 9711390 9720380 9774406, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
thbb 8 points 2 years ago

My recent permaban from r/worldnews for stating the obvious (is "Iran attacks Israel" still the right title for a stickied thread on the events in Gaza?) has had the positive effect of making me renew with Lemmy.

r/worldnews is a cesspool of hasbara fanboys, but their unilateral view on the conflict starts to draw away people from their toxic propaganda.

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Crack0n7uesday 3 points 2 years ago

Don't even waste your time in that echo chamber, it's almost as bad as r/politics. They did you a favor by banning you.

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Anticorp 7 points 2 years ago

Become? Where you been, man?

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Renegade_roosteR 8 points 2 years ago
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kikutwo 7 points 2 years ago

Fuck Reddit and their demogogue mods.

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nomadjoanne 4 points 2 years ago

Oh, there's a fair amount if those here too.

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iquanyin 7 points 2 years ago

nah, that would be twitter. reddit is catching up tho.

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thatirishguyyy 4 points 2 years ago

I use a VPN and they block me most days. I uninstalled the app and said fuqit.

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IcePee 2 points 2 years ago

Are/were you able to log in?

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user224 2 points 2 years ago

Not the person you asked, but yesn't. It works while not connected to VPN, but when I am connected to VPN (that it rejects) the TOTP 2FA doesn't work, so with 2FA enabled I cannot log in.

It shows a green checkmark, but clicking "Check code" does absolutely nothing, and I am still not logged in.

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DarkThoughts 0 points 2 years ago

Red Reader works but I have not found a solution for the browser. Sucks majorly because of search results leading you to a Reddit post.

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nforminvasion 2 points 2 years ago

Do you need to be able to post and upvote?

If not then install libredirect, go to the reddit settings, and ping instances until you find the lowest latency front end.

There you go. How you can read and the ui of most is pretty clean.

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DarkThoughts 1 point 2 years ago

No login needed since I don't have an account anymore. That addon works, at least for Reddit it seems. A lot of other sites like IG or TicTok do not. The former at least has another site & addon that works but most of those proxy sites seem to just be broken, even though the pinging still works.

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PopOfAfrica 1 point 2 years ago

Libdirect extension set to redirect you to a teddit client.

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DarkThoughts 0 points 2 years ago

wat

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TAYRN 3 points 2 years ago

Lol, what did you say that got you banned?

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QuadratureSurfer 20 points 2 years ago

This just happens if you're using a VPN.. notice how it says "login to your Reddit account"?

Switching to a good VPN server, or turning off the VPN will let you browse Reddit again.

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DarkThoughts 0 points 2 years ago

During prime time in my experience almost all VPN server IPs are blocked. I find this generally really odd since I thought they even offer an onion link for the TOR network.

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Mwa 1 point 2 years ago

Are you using a vpn?

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Alice -8 points 2 years ago

Is anyone aware that you have to change this? It bases it off your IP as soon as you make an account you have to change that in your settings to turn that off. Not sure if this helps at all but I just don't understand

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lvxferre 11 points 2 years ago
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henfredemars 10 points 2 years ago

I don’t think that this affects their blocking. If it did, then bots would be able to change this to get around it as well.

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Moody -18 points 2 years ago

Just login bro, you don't even have to interact, just lurk around.

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mortemtyrannis 16 points 2 years ago

Just install the neuralink chip into your brain bro, it doesn’t even hurt, just don’t value privacy.

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Moody -7 points 2 years ago

I would if Elon would accept me, privacy doesn't exist anymore anyways. Just sell yourself, it's free money.

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