Florida ocean temperatures peak to almost 100 degrees amid heatwave: "You really can't cool off"

3 years ago by MicroWave to c/news

The higher-than-normal sea surface temperatures off the coasts of the Sunshine State could cause a "nasty" coral bleaching event, experts say.
MicroWave 108 points 3 years ago
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Buffalox 93 points 3 years ago

I think it's 38 degrees celsius for Americans too. But I'm not quite sure, could also be 2 ounces, their system is kind of weird.

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june 9 points 3 years ago

It’s just over half the temperature of a cooked chicken for us normal Americans.

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joel_feila 7 points 3 years ago

the weirdest part is size 8 men shoe and size 8 women shoe are not the same size

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irkli 3 points 3 years ago
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DangerousDetlef 18 points 3 years ago

Really had to do a double take. Like, what the fuck, the ocean is boiling, it can't be that be that bad, right? Then it clicked that you're using that weird Fahrenheit system.

Yes, sorry, it's weird. Celsius is easy - water freezes at 0 and boils at 100 and there we go..

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WrongWay 17 points 3 years ago

F is easy.. 0 is cold. 100 is HOT..

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sudo 7 points 3 years ago

As an American this is how I interpret Celsius

  • 100 is boiling
  • 50 is you're gonna die from heat exhaustion eventually
  • 40 is hot
  • 30 is a little warm
  • 20 is a little cool
  • 10 is cold
  • 0 is freezing
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Rhaedas 8 points 3 years ago

30 is hot.
20 is nice.
10 is cool.
0 is ice.

40 and 50 can just not, please.

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AmosBurton_ThatGuy 7 points 3 years ago
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theterrasque 6 points 3 years ago

As a Norwegian:

  • 100 is boiling
  • 40 is we all gonna die
  • 30 is hot
  • 20 is a little warm
  • 10 is a little cool
  • 0 is cold
  • -5 is maybe time for a jacket
  • -10 shit, it's freezingly cold outside!
  • -15 I'll stay indoors if I can
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CodeInvasion 5 points 3 years ago

I regularly convert between the two just by remembering the conversions for 10, 20, 30, and 40. It's actually pretty easy.

  • 0C is 32F (of course)
  • 10C is 50F
  • 20C is 68F (a cool room temp)
  • 30C is 86F (reciprocal of 20)
  • 40C is 104F

If you ever forget what one of them is, then just add 18F for every 10C from the last one you remember.

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DaedalistKraken 2 points 3 years ago

This is actually great, I've never found a good way to remember Celsius temperatures. I might go closer to Terrasque's scale though, 30 is definitely hot where I am.

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Buffalox 2 points 3 years ago

Metric:

10 mm = 1cm, 100 cm = 1m, 1000 mm = 1m, 1000m = 1 km.

1 cm3 water = 1 gram

1 Watt heats 1 gram of water 1 C°

1 dm3 water = liter = 1 kg

1 m3 = 1000 kg = 1 tonne

Imperial:

1 mile = ?? yards = ?? feet = ?? inches

1 ton = ?? stone = ??punds = ?? oz = ?? grain

1 Galon = ?? pints = ?? fluid ounce

1 inch3 = ?? grain = ?? power to heat ?? fahrenheit

There is no system to any of these, they are unscientific and impractical.

How does Imperial still have any relevance as a measurement system?

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boonhet 1 point 3 years ago

If you're from somewhere up north, 30 is hot, 20 is pretty warm, 10 is cool, 0 is still freezing, and -10 or -20 is cold lol

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Norgur 5 points 3 years ago

Thinking about it... Isn't that exactly what the Celsius scale does just with reliable definitions about what "cold" and "HOT" mean?

Shower water with 38°C is hot, a bowl of rice at 38°C/100F is decidedly not "HOT". So the perceived convenience of the Fahrenheit scale is not applicable to everything, is it? How is it convenient then?

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CherenkovBlue 9 points 3 years ago

O F is the freezing temperature of a saturated brine solution, while 100 F was the body temperature of a human. Yes, body temperature has been revised a bit, but the two points were chosen as stable points that anyone could access that would generally be unchanged by pressure changes, etc. Human homeostasis is quite good at keeping a temperature in a narrow range. Also, boiling is massively affected by air pressure. At 5000' elevation, boiling is approximately 202 F and continues to get lower as altitude increases. Lots of people live at higher altitudes. (Hi! I am one of them !)

Edit: I was a little off on the temperature selected for body temp, but still pretty close: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit

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yata 1 point 3 years ago

It is convenient because they are used to it. That is all there is to it, and peace be to that.

It only becomes silly when they begin to claim that F is better for "human temperature", because again it all comes down to what you are used to and celsius is just as convenient if you are used to that.

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Jaded 2 points 3 years ago

It's not boiling but that is hot tube temperature for reference.

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Nepenthe 0 points 3 years ago

With how mountainous Europe is, no it doesn't. What bothers me (aside from the ongoing, increasingly vivid global extinction event) is the sense that, were the situation flipped, you guys wouldn't miss a beat telling people to look it up instead of assuming every country works like theirs does.

Good news is, we'll both have something else to complain about in a year or two, if we're...still able to do that.

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Norgur 1 point 3 years ago

Oh, I think you might be projecting there. Have you ever been to Germany or France or any other European country? If the situation was flipped and we Europeans were the only ones using a system no one else does, we wouldn't tell you to look it up, we would never stop complaining about our governments for not changing shit.

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Nepenthe 1 point 3 years ago

Well, I'm..american, so I'm generally too broke to leave my house. I will openly admit I'm increasingly jealous of the French tendency to fuck shit up at the slightest inconvenience. They seem to know a lot more about getting things done.

I think one would also have to account for geography in that, no? If a country were landlocked and surrounded by a ton of others that all used the same separate system that they themselves do not, then there would be very significant reason and pressure to change. As much as it's derided for it, America IS very much a universe unto itself, and the only dealings it has with nations that do things differently are in areas of work that have switched over to more standard measurements.

All science and engineering are primarily or totally done in metric after we crashed the Mars Orbiter headlong into the dirt at mach speed. Everything else tends to use the more mathmatically sensible kelvin. Mexico uses metric and celsius, but I've literally never had a reason to go to mexico and probably never will. Canada uses both, but same deal.

I make a concerted effort to include both systems whenever I have to type for an audience of mixed/ambiguous nationality, but in my day-to-day, I will never meet another person who can easily switch between them and I have no use to do that either. It is a useless skill for me to have. Despite this, I have the sense that I see more europeans complaining about farenheit than I ever see Americans complain about celsius existing, and for such a damn stupid populace, I'm left to assume we either comment less or google it more.

Regarding projecting, I could be tongue-in-cheek and ask if you've ever met a European before. Our food. Our language. Our buildings, cities, cars, media, sports, slang, holidays, garbage disposals, windows, classrooms, whether or not we take our shoes off in the house. I struggle to think of a single subject you guys will not routinely make an inordinate amount of fuss over, as if it killed your children, and I'm convinced at this point that it's for love of spite and there's literally nothing we could do to make Europe happy if we wanted to. It makes sense that any chance to acknowledge the alternate measuring system would be prime ribs.

Brits especially will snark about american english that routinely turns out to be a defunct british word. Germans will complain about the drywall, but their own houses have the same drywall. Houses in Switzerland are made of wood, but nobody bitches at the Swiss.

Parting note, the downvote feels in keeping with that kind of pettiness.

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Norgur 1 point 3 years ago
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dismalnow 3 points 3 years ago

7.1 stone.

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MysteriousSophon21 3 points 3 years ago

Or about 72.7 bananas

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NotSpez 2 points 3 years ago

347 yardsticks and 2 fluid ounces

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elouboub 1 point 3 years ago

How many football fields is that?

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NotSpez 2 points 3 years ago

MVP. We should have a not for this

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Jaysyn 85 points 3 years ago

If only someone had been warning us about this for the past 40 years.

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inspired 43 points 3 years ago

If only that someone had won the popular vote over 20 years ago leaving the deciding electoral votes to Florida with the narrowest of margins (hundreds of votes, by the certified count) giving it the ability to choose its own fate in a historically close election.

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solstice 15 points 3 years ago

The number one alternate timeline I'd like to see is if Gore had become president in 2000. Even more than if the Nazis had won WWII or if Caesar hadn't gone to the senate that day.

(I'd also like to see the world if the spanish armada had taken a different course back in 1588 and avoided that typhoon though..)

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Soggy 9 points 3 years ago

I'd like to see "what if Columbus died and Europeans left the New World alone a while longer."

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kmkz_ninja 9 points 3 years ago

Instead of regular old genocide for the natives, it could have been 𝕴𝖓𝖉𝖚𝖘𝖙𝖗𝖎𝖆𝖑 𝖌𝖊𝖓𝖔𝖈𝖎𝖉𝖊.

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WldFyre 2 points 3 years ago

Why would you want to see a timeline where Nazis won??

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solstice 6 points 3 years ago

It's a very commonly cited example of alternate history. I'm surprised you've never heard that before. There's been multiple books written and there's a show on Netflix called man in the high castle, all of them exploring this topic.

To answer the question, it would be interesting to see how it played out. How long would they maintain control over the US and Allies? What would resistance look like? How long would hitlers regime have lasted before being deposed? How long before collapsing under its own weight? What would the entire Cold War era have looked like, assuming the soviets lost too, and what would THEIR resistance look like? How would technology have developed without a Cold War driven space race?

Obviously it would've been a catastrophe but it's fascinating concept to speculate about.

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can 5 points 3 years ago

Curiosity? To see what the geopolitical situation would become? Alternate fiction is a genre. I doubt they're saying they want to live in that world.

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pfannkuchen_gesicht 18 points 3 years ago

iirc the first publication about climate change resulting from the industrialization was released in like 1910.

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superduperenigma 12 points 3 years ago
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CheeseNoodle 67 points 3 years ago

122°F (50°C) is the required sustained ocean temperature to theoretically form a continent spanning hypercane incase anyones interested.

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solstice 22 points 3 years ago

Well great, that's a new terrifying word I never heard of before today, one more thing to worry about fuck.

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Pika 4 points 3 years ago

same.. I didn't know hypercanes were even hypoteticallized, super concerning

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LemmyRefugee 10 points 3 years ago

Wikipedia needs to be updated about the highest recorded temperature of the ocean 😓

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zombuey 6 points 3 years ago

Done. Scary update.

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BastingChemina 5 points 3 years ago

Hypercanes would have wind speeds of over 800 kilometres per hour (500 mph), potentially gusting to 970 km/h (600 mph)

Nope, nope, nope !

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Carvex 56 points 3 years ago

Oh no, if it isn't the consequences to our own actions!

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Mog_fanatic 7 points 3 years ago

No no no that's where you're wrong. This is simply God's will. Carry on.

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SeaJ 49 points 3 years ago

There is a scene in the book Ministry of the Future where there is a wet bulb event in India and tons of people flocked to the water to cool down. The water was also like 100°F so the waterways ended up being filled with dead bodies that does from being too hot.

Looks like we may not be very far from that...

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jjjalljs 46 points 3 years ago

Not everyone in Florida deserves this, but a lot of them do.

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DrDominate 18 points 3 years ago
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Mdotaut801 3 points 3 years ago
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irkli 28 points 3 years ago
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Alenalda 24 points 3 years ago

As the arctic ice continues to accelerate it's thaw, water levels will rise a foot in the next 30years. This is going to continue as temperatures rise. Better move to higher ground Florida. Your state will look like Atlantis in the next 100-200years.

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solstice 11 points 3 years ago

No see, governor rick scott (Republican) banned his administration from using the term climate change, just like governor desantis (also Republican, surprise surprise) banned covid. So Florida is safe from both of those without any action required. Freedom!

/s because Poe's Law

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lasagna 8 points 3 years ago

It will be continuously wrecked by heat and storms in the mean time. 100 years is now beyond being only a highly optmistic timeline for these places.

It's like that meme about a high voltage station. It will not only die but suffer a lot while dying.

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thepianistfroggollum 4 points 3 years ago

I legit wish it was possible to purchase land in Greenland.

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Jimbo 20 points 3 years ago

Fucking hell, are there any animals left in that water?

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Robbsen1 17 points 3 years ago

Just because they are dead does not mean the left the water

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Mookulator 19 points 3 years ago

Anyone have historical data at that location? Just how crazy is this?

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TWG 20 points 3 years ago

https://seatemperature.info/...

So average temp in July is around 85° for the most popular destinations at least. Definitely seems like a hefty increase from the average.

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Mookulator 3 points 3 years ago

Oof

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iggames 10 points 3 years ago path: 0 1336338 1338536, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
frozenicecube 19 points 3 years ago

I wonder what impact this will have on hurricane season of those water temps continue...

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Buffalox 26 points 3 years ago

Higher temperature is equal to more energy in the atmosphere, the result is worse hurricanes.

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june 6 points 3 years ago

We should start dumping ice in the ocean. That’ll help.

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lamprivate 5 points 3 years ago

ONCE AND FOR ALL

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happilybitchycowboy 3 points 3 years ago

No wonder all the ice at the poles is melting

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stopthatgirl7 13 points 3 years ago

…oh. Oh, that’s gonna make hurricane season bad.

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QuinceDaPence 7 points 3 years ago

To really get the answer there you need surface temperature and temperature 100ft deep.

The surface can be hot but if it's cool deeper then then the storm churns it up and the cold water calms it down.

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andrewta 4 points 3 years ago

There’s the important question

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Cromulons 13 points 3 years ago

Welcome to Salmonella Beach!

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god_is_love 11 points 3 years ago

Relavant username OP

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10DollarBanana 9 points 3 years ago
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bdonvr 7 points 3 years ago

"World's largest hot tub!"

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elouboub 4 points 3 years ago

Entering the Guinness Book of Records!

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Duder167 6 points 3 years ago

That hurricane is going to hit Miami, exit Tampa and then go visit Tallahassee.

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Mog_fanatic 3 points 3 years ago

Nah nobody wants to go to Tallahassee. Probably go to Myrtle Beach

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Coskii 1 point 3 years ago

Oddly enough, the last major hurricane to hit south Carolina was in 1989.

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ivanafterall 1 point 3 years ago
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