MAGA then vs now.

2 years ago by QuentinCallaghan to c/politicalmemes

Dagwood222 153 points 2 years ago

Here's another.

GOP in 2016 = We need Trump because the rest of the world is laughing at America.

GOP today = Who cares what the rest of the world thinks?

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PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 140 points 2 years ago

As a non american, the world started laughing the second the orange man baby became your president.

it was sort of a mix of funny and nervous laughter though.

wasnt pleasent

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Chefdano3 46 points 2 years ago

I thought the laughing stared with George W.

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0x0 35 points 2 years ago

It probably started with Reagan, our first actor-turned-president.

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maculata 6 points 2 years ago

(Nixon enters the chat.)

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uis 3 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile another actor-turned-president successfully not looses war. They are not same.

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InternetUser2012 9 points 2 years ago

My favorite all time GW moments, "It looks like a hurricane came through there", and when he pulls on the door you need to push, the dumbfounded look on his face.

It's crazy to think how bad he was and he was great compared to tRump.

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someguy3 7 points 2 years ago

I remember reading an article (must have been during the Obama years) saying that for the GOP to get its act together they had to recognize what a trainwreck Bush Junior was. Yeah...

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PrettyFlyForAFatGuy 2 points 2 years ago

sort of a chuckle for gwb

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DogWater 1 point 2 years ago

I remember a linkin park song on the minutes to midnight album about this. I'm sure that wasn't even close to the beginning tho

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NABDad 34 points 2 years ago

wasnt pleasent

If you think it was bad on your end, you should feel what is like on the inside.

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uis 2 points 2 years ago path: 0 10403249 10403665 10410189, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
LillyPip 73 points 2 years ago

Fascism's major hallmark is fervent hypocrisy. That's how people could live within half a mile of death camps and just casually brush the ash of burnt people from their hair, then smile like they're going on a picnic as they're led into the death camps at the end of their street, then ten minutes later, after seeing actual corpses stacked like cordwood, they're vomiting and swearing they had no idea.

We can't let the uneducated masses lead us into that kind of horror again, We need to educate them of what they're advocating for and why that's so horrifically dangerous. We need to stop hedging and beating round the bush, and lay out in detail what they're actually enabling. People die when this kind of nationalistic ignorance is allowed to proliferate. We need to stop this ignorance before it kills people.

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snownyte 1 point 2 years ago
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Rentlar 66 points 2 years ago

Then: "Facts don't care for feelings."

Now: "Feelings don't care for facts."

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Varyk 63 points 2 years ago

Too many of those words are spelled correctly

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dogsnest 53 points 2 years ago

"MAGA never ever said that."

-- MAGA

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ChillPenguin 8 points 2 years ago

It was actually antifa who said that, impersonating MAGA. /s

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Emtity_13 41 points 2 years ago

Woundful word from an old book I read discribes the way these people think well.

double-think

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jaybone 7 points 2 years ago

1984?

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Emtity_13 5 points 2 years ago

Big brother is watching you

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Colonel_Panic_ 4 points 2 years ago

Thought crime!!!

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hydrospanner 1 point 2 years ago

That's double-plus ungood.

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stebo02 -1 points 2 years ago

that implies they think twice? where in reality they don't think about anything

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smuuthbrane 36 points 2 years ago

It's like they've unlearned object permanence but only for holding opinions.

Oh, wait, that's just a double standard. My bad.

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Emtity_13 2 points 2 years ago
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Stupidmanager 22 points 2 years ago

Ah you clearly know my conservative friend, Brian. His Facebook posts state he still wants to lock her/him up but was rather upset his lord and savior was now a convicted felon. Logic was never his strong suit, but he’s part of the friend group of mostly liberals and knows to keep his mouth mostly shut when it with us.

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Juvyn00b 5 points 2 years ago

I run around with a group and when the guilty verdict was rendered, oh my - the amount that started digging in surprised me. It's a group that typically doesn't delve into it and I saw that as a big plus. Now I'm not so sure what to think other than just keep my mouth shut.

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DoucheBagMcSwag 22 points 2 years ago

I like it how the oxygen sucking maggot gets fatter every year

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ouRKaoS 7 points 2 years ago

Didn't wear a mask in 2020, either

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jose1324 4 points 2 years ago

Does it? Looks just like some artist variations ngl

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uis 1 point 2 years ago

Except 2016-2017

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octopus_ink 20 points 2 years ago

3 downvotes on this, but no maga comments. Odd, usually the magas are the loudest assholes in the room. 🤔

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InternetUser2012 18 points 2 years ago

They been a little quiet since the 34 felony convictions and his off the rails rant.

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KevonLooney 13 points 2 years ago

That's the benefit of trump seeing actual punishment for his crimes. His supporters won't vote for Biden, but they might feel dejected and stay home without voting. That's what trump supporters and Russian trolls are trying to do with Gaza.

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madcaesar 6 points 2 years ago

Gaza and Israel has been a Christmas gift for the Russian / Right wing saboteurs

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kent_eh 8 points 2 years ago

They been a little quiet since the 34 felony convictions

Some of them have.

Others have doubled down on both the volume and the insanity levels of their noise.

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InternetUser2012 1 point 2 years ago

Those ones are the bots and paid trolls

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kent_eh 2 points 2 years ago

A lot of them probably are, but there are still a lot of deluded "true believers" who will actually vote.

Let's not get complacent and lull people into not voting against the orange turd.

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jaybone 16 points 2 years ago

Do MAGAs even bother on Lemmy?

I rarely see MAGA comments here. And if I do they are downvoted to hell.

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madcaesar 9 points 2 years ago

Every once in a while I'll see a maga comment, and honestly the first I think is this person has some kind of mental disability. The commets are always deranged and from an alternate reality.

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jaybone 1 point 2 years ago

And then below this is the .ml reply.

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TheFonz 2 points 2 years ago

Dude they are identical in their dialog trees, just diametrically opposite. It's like twinsies but for different affiliations

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alcoholicorn -4 points 2 years ago

I don't think they do, but I see a lot of liberals accuse communists of being secret MAGA for not supporting genocide, escalating the trade war with China, brutalizing protesters, locking migrants in cages, etc when it's Biden doing it.

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suction 1 point 2 years ago

Lmao “Biden doing it”. Go back to 4chan, chud

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alcoholicorn -3 points 2 years ago

Thanks for providing an example.

Is it hard to believe someone might actually feel that things that were bad when Trump did them remain bad when Biden does them? Except for the genocide, that will be bad when Trump does it.

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cron 13 points 2 years ago

They advocate for 'law and order' until it impacts someone from their own circle.

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positiveWHAT 2 points 2 years ago

One of the cornerstones of evil. It's funny how they keep yapping about Animal farm and 1984 when the books keep reflecting their own behavior. 'Newspeak' and ‘Some animals are more equal than others’.

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HawlSera 7 points 2 years ago

Rules for thee, not for me?

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Mango 3 points 2 years ago

Who is her? Also him.

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DragonTypeWyvern 10 points 2 years ago

Hillary and Biden

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ansiz 5 points 2 years ago

Hilary Clinton and Joe Biden unless I'm missing something.

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balderdash9 2 points 2 years ago

I thought Hilary and Hunter Biden

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irreticent 4 points 2 years ago
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Mastengwe 3 points 2 years ago

Yep. Sums it up well I think.

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maculata 1 point 2 years ago

I’m quite serious in that I think the right to vote should be removed from most of these people.

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FrostyTheDoo 37 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately that's not the correct solution. When we start taking away citizens' rights to participate in their public democratic government, we no longer have a public democratic government. Down the line, you would lose your right to vote as well, for a reason that you think is bullshit. And it would be bullshit, just like it's bullshit to suggest removing voting rights from Trump supporters.

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maculata 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah ok. I’m talking out my ass. But then how DO we tackle the brutal misinformation situation that has fueled these chucklefucks?

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 14 points 2 years ago

By increasing funding to public education systems, debunking any misinformation that's put out, holding news sources like fox accountable for lying to millions of people on a daily basis, stop using kid gloves whenever republican congressmen break the law, follow the money trail and expose the oligarchs running our country from the shadows through bribes and lobbying, never be a single issue voter, and always participate in local elections.

The sad reality of our world is stupid, greedy, evil pieces of shit will put in all the effort they can to get what they want. Good people tend to be apathetic and then get fucked hard when the bad people get their way. Good people need to pull the rocks out of their asses and get a fuckin move on.

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FrostyTheDoo 6 points 2 years ago

That's the trillion dollar question man, and I honestly don't know the answer.

My approach is to try be a rational voice that people in my circle feel comfortable talking to about anything, and telling them honestly and assertively when they're not making sense or when they're spouting harmful rhetoric (sort of what I did in my first reply to you here). It is exhausting and demoralizing, but I have found that when given the opportunity, people do trust their friends and family more than the random angry Russian people in their phone.

We have to engage with these people and try to help them, because they are going to vote and raise children in our country either way.

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AngryCommieKender 5 points 2 years ago

Jury duty seemed to work for juror #2. Whomever they were, they were following Trump on Truth social, and they still voted to convict. Mandatory jury duty for all!

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maculata 2 points 2 years ago

You sound like the lovely calm person I wish I was when I’m not spouting rage against the RW and China, on Lemmy.

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InternetUser2012 5 points 2 years ago

Make laws to make the news neutral and factual would be a great start. Remove the russian and china troll/bot farms from the online platforms. Remove religion from politics. The real difference maker would be to focus more on real education.

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maculata 4 points 2 years ago

Personally I’d like remove governments of Russia and China altogether.

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trafguy 0 points 2 years ago
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jaybone -1 points 2 years ago

But removing voting rights and ending democracy is exactly what the right wants to do.

This is almost like a version of tolerance of intolerance that we see on the left sometimes.

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FrostyTheDoo 1 point 2 years ago

I'm not tolerating intolerance. I'm saying stripping voting rights from people is not the right answer. I'm really not sure how you got that twisted...it seems that you agree that removing voting rights and ending democracy would be a bad thing. Yet you're advocating for it anyway? Can you explain that position a bit more clearly?

In my opinion you should spend your political capital and energy on influencing others to vote for candidates you support, rather than spending it advocating for the end of democratic voting in America.

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jaybone 1 point 2 years ago

I’m not agreeing or disagreeing. I’m making an observation.

The right has the right to vote. They want to vote to elect Trump. Trump wants to be a dictator and end democratic elections, removing everyone’s right to vote.

I will agree that education is key. Having an informed and educated society is the only way to have a working democracy. But the right also wants to eliminate education, so that’s a problem.

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ironhydroxide 9 points 2 years ago

Nah, go the other way. Make voting a requirement. You vote, or you don't participate in society.

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Liz 4 points 2 years ago

Among other things, yeah, we really should make voting mandatory.

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ironhydroxide 3 points 2 years ago

Yes. we. should.

The only reason to restrict voting is to keep "undesirables" from having a say in government.

In a fair government everyone should be represented. The only way to even approach that is to make it a requirement that everyone votes.

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positiveWHAT 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe include an update to proportional election systems so that you can have more than two parties/better representation?

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InternetUser2012 6 points 2 years ago

The right thinks anyone democrat shouldn't have the right to vote. The lunatic I worked with thought that, and was going on about you shouldn't be able to vote unless you understand what you're voting for.... How ironic.

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Emmie -9 points 2 years ago

The moral isn’t “don’t be a hypocrite”

The moral is: be sexy and good looking

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suction 4 points 2 years ago

I think the point is that the inner ugliness influences the appearance

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madcaesar 3 points 2 years ago

Hate and anger will make you ugly on the inside and outside.

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nifty 1 point 2 years ago

Who is sexy and good looking in any of this?

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Emmie 1 point 2 years ago

Lemme rephrase: if you have enough charisma you can pull off anything and no one will notice

The essence of politics isn’t to not be a hypocrite but to look good being one.

It turns out true times and times again when after elections the ‘more moral side’ does the same thing as what they said is evil but makes it look like a good thing.

It isn’t unreasonable to assume such skill also comes handy in day to day life. Look good, be sexy, get rewards. Spoils. Loot. Benefits.

To swim in the sea of shit you need to have some buoy.

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