Yeah...
Or maybe theres more to it than we know. I'd actually be shocked if he and his family weren't receiving death threats for those comments, so I dunno, maybe he didn't want him and his fans to get shot the fuck up at one if their shows (or at the very least have issues performing due to anxiety over such an event).
Unfortunately, in the current US, it's not an irrational fear for someone like him. I can't say I blame him at all.
It's fucking stupid, but here we are.
Canceling the tour and essentially breaking up the band is what brought all the attention in the first place. My point was that nobody in the US would have heard about this if JB hadn’t made such a big deal.
Australian venues were already cancelling before JB did anything.
His partner in Tenacious D, Kyle Gass, had his birthday the day after the Trump assassination attempt. When asked what he wished for his birthday live on stage, Kyle said "don't miss Trump next time".
Jack canceled the remaining shows and has posted some huge social media posts about how terrible that joke was and how upset he is.
Oh and in his posts he said that all future creative plans for the band are on hold, not just the tours.
Which to me seems like a massive overreaction. I can understand canceling the tours for safety but everything else? Eh...
I can't see that unless some trump turd was in charge of the venue bookings. Most operators are going to take money over pearl-clutching, and hell knows most people that would go see a TenD concert would have preferred to see Donny take one between the headlights to begin with, so they aren't going to complain.
The fuck are you talking about? As far as I understand it, he didn't throw Gass in a cage to keep him from every stating a joke again... he just chose not to participate in something he didn't agree with. That kind of choice thing you claim to be for.
Are you some sort of free speech absolutist who only wants people to agree with you?
Imo, JB capitulated to the far right by so staunchly objecting to KG’s comment/joke… it wasn’t necessary for him to make such a big deal about it, legitimizing the outrage which, imo, wasn’t justified.
Have whatever opinion you want, idgaf.
Also, a ‘free speech absolutist’ and ‘only wanting people to agree with you’ are unrelated concepts… to quote you, the fuck are you talking about?
legitimizing the outrage
Was there even any outrage? The only news I read was about Jack Black canceling the concerts, nothing about Kyle Gass' original comment.
Why can't people see that this is about self-preservation, not PR.
Like for fuck sake, do you need to see gay people lined up against a wall by conservative death squads before realizing how fucked up the situation here is?
I'd be shocked if both of them (and their families) have not been receiving death threats since Gass made the joke.
the left needs to stop being a bunch of cowards. tell the right we're coming for them. they need to be scared of us. quit living up to the stereotype of 'average liberal soyboy'.
If liberals weren't soyboy cowards they'd be a proud vegetarian socialist.
or we could just shut them all down now before that day ever comes.
What if the day you decide it's time you go outside to realize the day was two years ago and now half your friends are being "re-educated" and you have to hide that you ever knew the other half.
I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. We only have soap, ballot, bullet, and jury boxes and obviously the soapbox has limited impact and the ballot box increasingly less.
Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
Jack Black canceled his tour after Kyle Gass made a joke about the Trump assassination attempt.
It was not the greatest joke in the world. No, it was just a tribute.
Let's not bury the lede here: the joke in question was making a birthday wish while blowing out candles saying "don't miss next time". Joke or not, that is publicly encouraging the assassination of a former president.
Like, there's a big difference between "I heard he shit his pants when the bullets started flying" and "I hope it happens again and succeeds this time".
Fuck Trump. Fuck everything about him. But you gotta know that shit isn't acceptable when standing next to the guy who played Bowser for Nintendo
EDIT: Whole lot of people in here can't fucking read lmao. I don't give a shit about Trump, conservatives, or anyone on that side of this issue. I just know that it's a dumb move to make that joke standing on stage with a guy who stars in PG movies for a living. Y'all need to get a grip
And in your worldview, it'll just be a race to the bottom.
JB did the right thing. Him and Kyle will be able to come back from this because of the actions of JB. After all, who is the heat on now? It's not Kyle. He looks like a victim now. Jacks taking the heat. Heat he can easily handle. Heat that will fade away in the coming months and be forgotten.
Instead of throwing a massive fight back and blowing the situation up even more out of proportion. Instead of now having to wonder if you've made yourself a target of insane Trumpers.
This was masterful PR and it shows who knows actual PR and who has too much ego to take an L when needed. This pretty much guaranteed that JB AND Kyle are protected. Everyone took just enough dirt to look like they got punished but it's not enough to actually end anyone.
They're comedians on stage. That joke was tame as hell. Republicans have openly said worse about trans people, and they're not joking.
Former president, and current Republican frontrunner. If condoning political violence is bad, then Trump is the next Charles Manson in instilling violence in his cult.
So as long as someone else does something first, any act is justifiable in your mind?
It's so weird that one assassination attempt turns everyone into grade schoolers.
"But teacher, they started it!"
You're all misreading what I said. I never said it was bad. I said it was stupid.
I will say myself that I wish Trump were shot in the head (barring the unfortunate side effects that would bring about but that's a separate conversation).
But I'm not standing on a stage next to Jack Black 🤷
I just know that it's a dumb move to make that joke standing on stage with a guy who stars in PG movies for a living.
The set list included 'fuck her gently', 'Double Team' and 'low hanging fruit', get outta here with that PG shit.
As I said elsewhere there is a dramatic difference between bucking puritanical norms around sex and vulgarity, and making light of an attempt to assassinate a former president in which an innocent bystander was killed
The dude made an edgy joke about a child rapist fascist who has a high likelihood of controlling the worlds most powerful nation a second time where his backers have a open plan to immediately invoke martial law and completely replace the government on all levels with their own lackies should they win. Lets not pretend Gass has any real ability to put out an assassination attempt on a potential presidential candidate, so we're not hiding anything when we say its just an edgy joke where the person who's the butt of it is a certifiably nasty person. You dont actually have to support political violence to get that
I can wish the bystander didn't die, but that would mean the shooter would've had to not miss, which also would've resulted in the death of a pedophilic, racist, rapist cancer on this country, so...... Win win?
It's lede just for whatever it's worth.
I sincerely hope it happens again and succeeds this time. Trump is a threat to democracy and I hope somebody does something about it.
*Disclaimer: I am not instructing anyone to do anything, I am stating how I would feel if that thing were to happen.
That joke is harmless...although the blowing out candles and making a wish is slightly troubling
It's completely harmless.
It's still a stupid thing today on a stage next to Jack Black.
People can down vote me all they want, it doesn't change the fact that regardless of how justifiable the sentiment is - and it's a sentiment I completely agree with - it was just plain stupid to say in that situation
There may be more to this that we arent aware of like they agreed to not do controversial material ages ago and Kyle pitched the joke and Jack said "Dude fucking no, we dont want to touch this."
It might be more about creative differences than the actual joke is what I'm saying.
Never thought I’d see someone think they had to white knight Jack Black, but here we are
Man, imagine thinking your argument is so flimsy that you have to justify your argument with lazy "white knight" accusations.
"How dare you join the discussion and not immediately be as outraged as I am! What are you, some kind of simp?!"
Last week, Kyle quit the band...
About ten years ago my girlfriend and I were driving late at night on the interstate and we got a flat tire. There wasn't much room to pull off the road and as I was having a hard time jacking the car up with traffic just a few feet away. I was about to give up when a truck pulled up behind us and the driver came over to help
That driver was Warren Buffet.
He kinda besmirched himself by immediately throwing KG under the bus the way he did. I've been a fan for decades now to the point that I don't even realize I'm quoting them sometimes...but my respect for JB definitely took a hit there and I have to think now about how much of his public image has been carefully crafted by PR agencies over the years.
Dude threw himself under the bus by trying to tell an unscripted joke wherein he encouraged the assassination of a former president and current nominee.
Like, Trump is a piece of shit who deserves a bullet in the head but you have to be an idiot to think that's an okay joke to tell while standing next to the guy who played Bowser for Nintendo and had a substantive role in a Muppets movie.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Calling JB less funny than CF is not much of an insult, as CF was a legend. And though JB is also a legend, he is both a comedian and a musician, whereas CF was not a musician (as far as I know).
Now I'm reading JB and CF as James Bond and Captain Falcon
Show your moves!
Well, Chris Farley is dead, though.
I didn't even know he was sick
He was another victim of the housing crisis. He picked up a wicked virus after a few years of living on a van down by the river, and he just never recovered. RIP in peace.
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Jb should have just kept his mouth shut, maybe made some half assed apology, but that’s about it. Making a big deal about how unacceptable Kage’s comment was is just pandering to the far right. It’s mostly just the far right that is pearl clutching over this.
Comedy is the last bastion of free speech. If you do not like the joke then stop listening, move on, change the channel. Censoring comedy because someone doesn’t like the joke is the only thing that is unacceptable here. Really disappointed in Jabels here.
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