You can make art using AI. I've seen artists use it to clean up line art, color, shade, fill in backgrounds, and more. AI is just a tool. Lots of people only use text prompts, which I agree is hardly controlling, but that is only a single way to interact with AI. You can do a lot with these models.

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AVincentInSpace 11 points 2 years ago

All this is true, but none of it is relevant to a guy who's demanding copyright protections and royalties for something Midjourney spat out.

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TheDorkfromYork 3 points 2 years ago

I agree, but I wasn't sure if this comment was generally anti-AI or understanding of the nuance. For the record, AI scares me.

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RobotToaster 59 points 2 years ago

One of the reasons I like AI art is that it's pretty settled law that something produced by purely "mechanical" means can't itself have copyright, since copyright requires both originality and a human author.

It seems like a reasonably compromise, the AI was created by hoovering up the commons, so anything it creates should belong to the commons. I expect a lot of lobbying in the future to try and change it though.

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SlopppyEngineer 25 points 2 years ago

And if AI work would be copyrighted by the "prompt artist" then all the artists whose work is in the training set can sue the prompter for profiting of their work without licensing fees. It would be a legal clusterfuck so it was pretty wise to side step the whole issue.

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Lexam 58 points 2 years ago

I'm in the same boat. Every time someone reads one of my comments and doesn't pay me for it, that's money out of my pocket. It's a hard life being an internet commenter these days.

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x00za 8 points 2 years ago

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Crashumbc 4 points 2 years ago

You owe them based on word count, line count, and character count.

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el_bhm 3 points 2 years ago

You laugh but I seriously think people should be getting a cut if they are building a non-open LLM by commenting.

Member how people defended free price of gmail? I member.

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AFreeLarryHoover 49 points 2 years ago

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AVincentInSpace 10 points 2 years ago

AI art might not be real, but Sonic giving birth to Borat is an extremely cool concept that people should be celebrated for drawing

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Grandwolf319 6 points 2 years ago

Dude, you can’t end it in such a rad way and expect us to despise the prompt input guy.

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NigelFrobisher 31 points 2 years ago

This is actually the art bit, right? He’s doing conceptual art, like that Banksy that shredded itself upon sale.

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Boomkop3 30 points 2 years ago

Oh no, the consequences of your own actions! That art competition should just add a rule "only copyrightable works"

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tonytins 11 points 2 years ago

Apparently, the competition was a year before that ruling.

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Boomkop3 5 points 2 years ago

And he's still crying about it?

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GraniteM 28 points 2 years ago

The "artist":

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TommySoda 25 points 2 years ago

"Famous AI 'Prompter' Says He's Losing Millions of Dollars From People Stealing His Stolen Work."

Seems like you did this to yourself, bud. You're just mad you didn't get paid enough for stealing.

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Repelle 7 points 2 years ago

“Famous” is accurate, but change to “Infamous” and it’s perfect.

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tonytins 3 points 2 years ago

He sure to become "infamous" now.

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ChronosTriggerWarning 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not even sure I'd consider him a guapo, much less El Guapo

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WrenFeathers 24 points 2 years ago

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RagingRobot 9 points 2 years ago

Prompt maker upper

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WrenFeathers 1 point 2 years ago

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sag 23 points 2 years ago

If he is considered "Artist" I am too.

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unmagical 18 points 2 years ago

How is he losing millions of dollars? If you're just trying to get into the art fraud money laundering scheme thing then make an NFT and find an idiot. But just the creation of a piece (be it traditional, digital, or "ai") doesn't entitle you to a payout. And if you're just complaining about the dissemination of the piece you asked someone else's computer to generate for you without a kick back link tax, well--that's not how copyright, the internet, or normal human correspondence works.

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SlopppyEngineer 25 points 2 years ago

Ah, good ol' music industry math. "1,000 people downloaded a picture that I created, and I wanted to charge $1,000 a piece, so I lost $1,000,000." In reality of course charging $0.02 would've stopped most sales.

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unmagical 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, articles are including the image because they can. If a judge had instead ruled that AI generated works were copyrightable (and to the prompter, not the designer of the tool, owner of the hardware, or even the tool itself) the end result would be that very few orgs would include his piece instead just opting for generating their own (now copyrightable) image to use as an example. He'd still get nothing, but then significantly fewer people would see his "work."

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morgunkorn 17 points 2 years ago

I'm collecting all his tears to cook a big pot of pasta. Not sure how anyone would make "millions of dollars" from a single artwork anyway.

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Dudewitbow 4 points 2 years ago

its probably fictionally calculated like sales are to piracy. just because someone pirated a game/software doesnt mean they would have bought said thing at asking price had the piracy option not existed.

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Valmond 3 points 2 years ago

Be an 1880 impressionnist, paint an artwork, die.

Now it's worth a million, possibly.

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A_Union_of_Kobolds 3 points 2 years ago

This is the schadenfreude I needed to get through my day

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VinesNFluff 16 points 2 years ago

[Nelson Laugh]

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OmegaMouse 15 points 2 years ago

Lol, lmao even

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Canadian_Cabinet 15 points 2 years ago

How much did the real artists lose out on in order to train the AI?

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SacredHeartAttack 15 points 2 years ago

lol get fucked loser. (the "artist", not OP)

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CoolGirl586 14 points 2 years ago

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Mango 11 points 2 years ago

LMAO!!!!

Next.

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Ruediger 10 points 2 years ago

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nick 10 points 2 years ago

Fuck him.

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drdiddlybadger 9 points 2 years ago

He is not being the neighborly neighbor Mr Rogers wanted him to be.

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laranis 8 points 2 years ago

Read headline, ok. Look for Onion source... fuck.

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blackjam_alex 7 points 2 years ago

He's losing imaginary, A.I generated money.

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ProgrammingSocks 7 points 2 years ago

Oh I sure hope he sets a bad legal precedent for AI "art".

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Buddahriffic 3 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, the incredibly popular pro-AI pro-copyright stance. He's going to get very far with that one.

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NutWrench 3 points 2 years ago

I can generate Mandelbrot pictures that no one else has ever seen. That doesn't make me an artist.

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carl_dungeon 2 points 2 years ago

Haha

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Nuke_the_whales -2 points 2 years ago

I make props, armour, movie replicas as a hobby. I do it all by hand.

I get a bit of an eyeball twitch when someone shows me a prop and goes "I made this too" "of yeah, what did you use as a base material?" "Oh it's 3d printed" "oh so your printer made it..."

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Dudewitbow 7 points 2 years ago

id consider them making it if they were also the one who designed the 3d object without taking someone elses work. if they just downloaded a model, made minor changes than print it, I would not consider it their work.

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shuzuko 1 point 2 years ago

Yeah, I spend hours digitally sculpting parts sometimes, and then once it's printed I spend hours filling and sanding the build lines and painting. Having also built parts by hand, they're equally skilled work in different ways. Digital sculpting is just a lot less messy which means it's much easier for me to do at home, lol. Do not miss the days of hand-sculpting foam and making silicone molds and fiberglass parts.

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