Anon finally touches grass

2 years ago by 🍹Early to RISA 🧉 to c/greentext

lord_ryvan 179 points 2 years ago

This is why people like this are told to go outside or touch grass.

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Early_To_Risa 165 points 2 years ago

Frankly all of 4chan should.

But then our supply chain of clinically insane greentexts would fail.

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BackOnMyBS 61 points 2 years ago

I heard a story about a whole world that was perfect because they locked a kid up in a room and threw all the bad stuff in there with the kid. The poor kid suffered all of the world's miseries so that others could enjoy life. That kid's name? 4chan.

4chan is 99% deplorable garbage. I won't even go into /b/. Helllll no. But oddly enough, some of the internet's best memes come out of there.

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originalfrozenbanana 17 points 2 years ago

Assuming only a place of pure misery could produce those memes

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kernelle 16 points 2 years ago

4chan is what the internet would look like if everything had the bare minimum of moderation. Actually a very interesting case study about the human psyche, and I've had many a interesting conversation on there, especially early internet days.

Is it a shithole? Overall, yes. But the right board at the right time is truly early internet ethos.

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superkret 11 points 2 years ago

If the entire internet was as unmoderated as 4chan, it would be a lot less extreme than 4chan is.

But since there are only very few places like that, all the weirdos and nazis congregate there, cause that's where they don't get banned for using the n-word.

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renzev 1 point 2 years ago

I'm often hearing that 4chan is "unmoderated" or has "the bare minimum of moderation", which just doesn't line up with reality. Many boards have strict and specific rules about what content is allowed, what is banned, and how said content should be presented. Just listing some rules off the top of my head: you must have a minimum number of pictures to start a thread of /s/. Normal hentai porn goes into /h/, weird fetish stuff goes into /d/. No western art allowed on either. Content that breaks the rules gets removed within hours, sometimes minutes.

If you see something that you find disagreeable on a 4chan board, it's likely there because it's allowed to be there. They aren't struggling with moderation. The fact that it's still online in the clearnet after so much media attention proves that they have enough jannies to take care of the illegal stuff at least.

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DannyBoy 14 points 2 years ago path: 0 12756599 12756755 12757167 12761759, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
AlexWIWA 6 points 2 years ago

It’s the primordial soup of internet content.

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dwindling7373 3 points 2 years ago

Isn't the concept of a meme itself a leak from 4chan?

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curbstickle 17 points 2 years ago

The original idea of a meme came from Dawkins in the 70's, and "Internet Meme" from Godwin in the early 90's, talking about message boards, usenet, listservs, etc.

4chan did not start the concept, no. Lolcats came from 4chan, iirc. But internet memes predate the existence of 4chan.

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Angry_Autist -3 points 2 years ago

You think you're funny but you're just cringe

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prole 2 points 2 years ago

The Mysterious Hacker 4chan

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Gullible 22 points 2 years ago

Through this sieve would come the ascended madmen. Those who escaped the cave and rejected the reality without, retreating to their chamber of hate and stagnation. The truly unhinged. No more naive, parroted bastardizations of the Socratic method. Only irreparables.

This select choir of lunatics voluntarily ablating their sanity will be decadence enough, I think

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FatTony 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah, we're way better over here on lemmy. (The lack of racism really does make us better tho)

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WastingCommentSpace 4 points 2 years ago
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mesamunefire 2 points a year ago

Ive got some news for you....

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where_am_i 15 points 2 years ago

most of them were social outcasts long before 4chan. That's actually how they got there in the first place.

Everyone will be having pleasant conversations outside, but these guys won't.

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Angry_Autist -5 points 2 years ago

I love how so many of you make these stupid as fuck assumptions with the titanium certainty of a doctor of psychology.

Just goes to show how low quality the crowdsourcing is here

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ameancow 7 points 2 years ago
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ameancow 2 points 2 years ago
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SkunkWorkz 83 points 2 years ago

Imagine being so obsessed by black dick as 4Chan.

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webghost0101 67 points 2 years ago

interact with people

Instructions unclear, helicoptered my dick around but there appeared to be no ceiling fan.

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ameancow 3 points 2 years ago
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BananaOnionJuice 52 points 2 years ago

Anon learns that outdoors is fake and gay.

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Tar_alcaran 44 points 2 years ago

Wtf is a Gonial Angle or a Canthal tilt?

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andrew_bidlaw 80 points 2 years ago

Gonial angle is this:

Gonial angle picture

Canthal tilt is that:

Canthal tilt illustration

As I was googling I've seen articles mentioning some angles statistically more attractive than others, that's predictable, but then incels take it as another reason why they are genetically predisposed to stay virgins and have no power to change that.

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booly 79 points 2 years ago

The ifunny watermark really tips this over the edge, comedically.

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andrew_bidlaw 10 points 2 years ago

It could only be beaten by a SomethingAwful watermark (do they have one?) on a picture of non-attractive angles.

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Tar_alcaran 42 points 2 years ago

Ah, am woman, can confirm I only date mane with a Gonial Angle over 140 degrees, or under 30

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Skullgrid 20 points 2 years ago

how do you bring out the protractor on dates?

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Tar_alcaran 34 points 2 years ago

Oh, us females inherently judge the angle flawlessly on first sight.

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acockworkorange 3 points 2 years ago

Under 30 degrees? So, like pugs and French bulldogs?

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Blackmist 20 points 2 years ago

I've no doubt that at least half the articles about those phrases will lead you down a path of right wing fuckbaggery.

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prole 5 points 2 years ago

Closer to 99%. This is modern phrenology for incels.

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andrew_bidlaw 1 point 2 years ago

Wouldn't say the studies themselves are only worthy for that, but yeah, there's no way a common person would apply them the other way.

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gigachad 14 points 2 years ago

As a gigachad I can confirm.

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TankovayaDiviziya 9 points 2 years ago

Some people take pleasure in being pitied and victimised.

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sugar_in_your_tea 4 points 2 years ago

Far too many.

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Blackmist 36 points 2 years ago

I'm going to guess at "Incel excuses for not getting laid."

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captainlezbian 19 points 2 years ago

Anything but the harsh reality that they could get laid if they behaved better and presented themselves better

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bamfic 9 points 2 years ago

And bathed

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sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 2 years ago

Yup, the bar is sadly that low sometimes.

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DJDarren 33 points 2 years ago

You need to touch less grass and spend more time online.

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Tar_alcaran 14 points 2 years ago

Do I really?

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DJDarren 8 points 2 years ago

Depends on whether you want to a cool kid.

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ameancow 8 points 2 years ago
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arefx 4 points 2 years ago

Who the fuck cares honestly other than shut in weirdo's

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ICastFist 41 points 2 years ago

Interacting face-to-face with non-degenerates results in normal chat. Whoda thunk?

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Kusimulkku 38 points 2 years ago

I think their cope is that "people aren't mentioning that but they think it" etc

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driving_crooner 3 points 2 years ago

The Woke Police (TM) have eyes on every wall.

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celsiustimeline 34 points 2 years ago
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Saleh 8 points 2 years ago

This sounds scaringly similar to a country in the Middle East heavily supported by the US.

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NicolaHaskell 4 points 2 years ago

It's a kind of useful to have websites like reddit and 4chan to accuse of fostering thought bubbles, hate speech, and victimhood.

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Randomgal 29 points 2 years ago

Lemmy in a nutshell too tbh.

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some_guy 23 points 2 years ago

I don't know what boards you're on, but wow. Not the experience I'm having on Lemmy. You might wanna check your subscribes.

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Voltage 14 points 2 years ago

go outside

interact with people

nobody is talking about linux

nobody is talking about the bad thing that amazon did today

nobody is talking about self hosting or privacy

everyone just having normal and relatively pleasant conversation and going on with their day

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Default_Defect 11 points 2 years ago

No one is accusing me of raping a cow (I got a milkshake)

No one is blaming me specifically for the state of the environment (I drive a car to get my milkshake)

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renzev 7 points 2 years ago

Funny you say that lol. I study electrical engineering, and my friends from uni ABSOLUTELY talk about linux, self hosting, and privacy. Still looking for someone to fill out the "bad thing that amazon did today" conversation niche.

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Hossenfeffer 4 points 2 years ago

My lemmy experience is not like your lemmy experience.

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whydudothatdrcrane 3 points 2 years ago

Are you my ...therapist?

(Read this as in the butterfly meme LOL)

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celsiustimeline 12 points 2 years ago
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blindbunny 2 points 2 years ago

The year of the Linux desktop!

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WastingCommentSpace 1 point 2 years ago
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leftytighty 1 point 2 years ago
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felykiosa 2 points 2 years ago

If I have to choose I prefer femcel over incel its more fun

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blindbunny 2 points 2 years ago

At least they make fire memes

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everett 28 points 2 years ago

I like how ambiguously

This place

can either mean "4chan" or "outside."

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psycho_driver 25 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure political extremism works the same way.

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loutr 36 points 2 years ago

I have friends from high school who fell into the alt-right rabbit hole. They are obsessed with transgenderism. If you believe their depressing timelines, trans people are absolutely everywhere, behaving like total degenerates and grooming kids left and right. They send me an unhealthy amount of videos to prove their claims.

Meanwhile in the real world, I've encountered maybe 5 trans people that I recognized as such, and they were behaving normally, and not one tried to groom my kids! But if I tell them that they dismiss it on account of my woke mind virus / Trump derangement syndrome. They're single, don't have kids, and spend most of their time doomscrolling or watching the French version of Fox News, but they know better than me what's going on in my kids' school...

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 8 points 2 years ago

As time goes on I’ve noticed more and more of it is just projection.

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Angry_Autist 3 points 2 years ago

I'm sure you do but you're wrong. Some people are the start of it.

Sure most are just followers sure, and some are monsters.

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acockworkorange 2 points 2 years ago

Terminally online people who want to feel special about knowing something that other people don’t. And they have to tell everyone around them how they are special by sharing their degenerate ideas all the time. Honestly, the incels are less damaging.

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SeattleRain 23 points 2 years ago

No one maybe talking about lookism but they're practicing it.

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ameancow 42 points 2 years ago
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sugar_in_your_tea 11 points 2 years ago

Exactly.

Honestly, if I was dating today, I probably wouldn't select my SO based on looks, because let's face it, we're both getting older and a bit less attractive. But that literally doesn't matter to me and I find them beautiful, because of the life we've spent together. I was initially attracted to them based on looks, but after some weeks, that really didn't matter any more.

Likewise with friends, I probably initially made my friends based on looks, but I honestly don't care what they look like anymore, they're just my friends.

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AlolanYoda 10 points 2 years ago

Wait, really? Whenever I spend more time at work or at home I tend to forget how many really attractive people are really out there. Whenever I go out after a long period of time I end up being positively surprised. I would also not look at Tinder as an example, but because of the opposite: people on tinder look much uglier than in real life. But then again, usually outside you don't look at people for more than one or two seconds, while on tinder there's loads of photos for you to examine every single flaw

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ameancow 2 points 2 years ago
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TheFerrango 23 points 2 years ago

Fake, we occasionally mention OnlyFans even when outside

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Kolanaki 18 points 2 years ago

Because online, people only talk about those things.

In the real world, they are doing them. And so much more. But usually when you're not looking.

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XTL 17 points 2 years ago

As if anon would call those conversations normal or pleasant.

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tootoughtoremember 16 points 2 years ago

What, no mention of phrenology? I've lost touch with 4chan, too much grass touching for me.

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mindaika 15 points 2 years ago

Dude, there’s a whole TV channel for BBC and people talk about it all the time IRL

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NigelFrobisher 6 points 2 years ago

BBC One. BBC Two. BBC Three. BBC Four. BBC Five. BBC Six. BBC Seven. BBC Heaven.

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mindaika 1 point 2 years ago

Hell yeah I BBsaw one at the sauna the other day

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selokichtli 14 points 2 years ago

Wait! Step-sister, this is wrong!

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nutsack 10 points 2 years ago

what if going outside means walking across a half ass tarmac parking lot and then sitting at a bus stop with homeless people for 30 minutes

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theacharnian 8 points 2 years ago

Chat up the people at the bus stop. They're probably nice. Next time, bring some warm tea or something too.

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sugar_in_your_tea 3 points 2 years ago

Yup. I used to ride the bus to work, and I'd usually chat with whoever was there. Sometimes they appeared homeless, sometimes they had mental disabilities, and sometimes they were just everyday people. I'm quite introverted, but I made the effort and have had some pleasant conversations.

Once I'm on the bus though, all talking stops, because thems the rules.

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 4 points 2 years ago

The crack head sleeping at the bus stop is probably more sane than half the commenters on 4chan.

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nutsack 1 point 2 years ago

That's true

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GhiLA 4 points 2 years ago

They're people too, aren't they?

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FozzyOsbourne 1 point 2 years ago
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rickyrigatoni 8 points 2 years ago

Anybody know the sauce to that gif? It looks nice.

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OmegaMouse 6 points 2 years ago path: 0 12768864 12776284, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
tux0r 6 points 2 years ago

I am totally talking about hypergamy.

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ladicius -1 points 2 years ago

My wife talks a lot about BC. They don't necessarily be B but BC is important.

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captainlezbian 4 points 2 years ago

Tbh I discuss ON more than BC. Must be regional

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myrrh 2 points 2 years ago
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ziixe -10 points 2 years ago
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Edgarallenpwn 4 points 2 years ago

Wut

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ziixe 1 point 2 years ago

Basically a better version of the post since I was writing that in the morning while I was half asleep

My classmates are full on degenerates and call the milk that's in the refill machine in our school's cafeteria "boy milk"

Yes I know it's awful, I don't know if i got down voted because they do that or because half asleep me couldn't write a legible post

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Edgarallenpwn 1 point 2 years ago

It was a tad confusing and seemed like you were part of it. Thanks for clarifying, they suck

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hesusingthespiritbomb -21 points 2 years ago

Idk being more social after covid has made me more conservative. A lot of behavior that I assumed was exclusively online turned out to be surprisingly common in real life.

A lot of the sexism parts in particular were jarring. A significant minority of grown ass women basically used #metoo as leverage to behave in a sexist and immature manner. There's also a culture where other women are extremely reluctant to call out that behavior, or else they might be accused of "internalizing their sexism" and not sufficiently supporting women. I dismissed the postings about that as incel-bait during the pandemic, but it turns out it's extremely common.

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AbsoluteChicagoDog 19 points 2 years ago
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hesusingthespiritbomb -4 points 2 years ago

So my post was explicitly about how I dismissed a lot of things I read on the internet as BS until I encountered them in real life. The part about "ethnical non monogamy" was something I didn't truly believe until I saw it more than once, including some explicit details at a 4th of July party provided by a wife with a visibly uncomfortable husband.

What is your definition of "outside"?

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webadict 6 points 2 years ago

What behaviors do you mean and how does that correlate to being conservative?

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hesusingthespiritbomb 1 point 2 years ago

So the behaviors are the same kind of things that you've seen forever among people who can get away with it. Immaturity, bigotry, cruelty, etc. However I myself am a liberal, and live in a liberal area of the country. A lot of people use liberal rhetoric to behave in an objectively toxic way, often by coding criticism of their actions as conservative or the toxic actions themselves as liberal.

I mentioned sexism from women, so I'll focus on that:

  • As I mentioned earlier, a lot of "ethically non monogamous" relationships that are basically a woman gaslighting their partner into letting them cheat on them. This is often talked about as a sort of a sexual identity, with the implication that hating on this is the same as hating on a gay relationship or a woman who chooses to be single.
  • As I mentioned earlier, women are highly encouraged to support other women regardless of circumstances. A failure to do so is implied to be sexist.
  • In general there is this default assumption that a man is nefarious, usually with some reference to true crime or "the implication". This assumption is not only a massively sexist generalization, but is never logical. If a man is tall and built he gets the benefit of the doubt, despite being objectively more of a threat than a short chubby guy. The first thing I do when I meet a woman I don't know in a social setting is to somehow work in that I have a girlfriend in a way that feels organic, and a good amount of times I can see their body language shift. This is despite the fact that my SO is often not with me, and that there are a million different true crime stories involving a heterosexual couple both being evil. All of this is justified with progressive #metoo rhetoric
  • There are a lot of single women I know that are very much architects of their own misery. They have super shallow dating standards, unrealistic expectations, and this mentality that if a man is attractive enough red flags are just misunderstanding. When things inevitably go wrong they make sweeping statements about men. Despite this being more or less nonsense, it's considered sexist to call them out.
  • There are multi hundred member Facebook groups of women in every city that gossip about the men they date. This is obviously toxic, but the organizers frame it as a #metoo thing so it's widely considered acceptable.
  • Basically everything I mentioned would be considered absolutely unacceptable if genders were reversed, but if you bring this up then you'll get a pseudo academic lecture about historical oppression and the patriarchy that basically boils down to "it's different when I do it".
  • This isn't a big deal at all, but it's sort of ridiculous that most women I meet both consider themselves feminist but will get peeved if men don't pay for the date.

Of course, sexism is just one example. I use it because I find this stuff is the most egregious. I also have a lot of frustration about other things, most notably shitty people making a huge deal about how much they love drag queens in what I view as an effort to obfuscate from how shitty and judgmental they are.

My response to all of this has been to become more conservative. Note the delta. I'm not conservative. However I am also in no way shape or form a progressive anymore. I don't think liberals have nearly the moral superiority they think they do when it comes to how you treat people on a day to day basis. I support queer identities, but have become more conservative in my idea of monogamy and commitment. I even briefly considered staying home this election when it looked like the main line of attack democrats were gonna do was just to call republicans weirdos over and over again until November, because I'm personally just done associating myself with middle school mean girl politics.

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webadict 9 points 2 years ago

Gonna be honest with you, these all mostly sounds like toxic masculinity, which isn't really dealt with well by conservatives, mostly because they don't like critical thinking and all that.

a lot of "ethically non monogamous" relationships that are basically a woman gaslighting their partner into letting them cheat on them

Um, I actually think it's the opposite? It's not cheating if all partners consent. If you don't want to date someone who is ENM, then... don't? Most ENM people don't want to date monogamous people! That's why you tell everyone before you do it (that's the ethical part.)

women are highly encouraged to support other women regardless of circumstances. A failure to do so is implied to be sexist.

I don't see the problem here? Is it bad to support women, or is it that they somehow support bad women? Do men not do similar?

In general there is this default assumption that a man is nefarious, usually with some reference to true crime or "the implication".

This has some truth to it, and while I understand that this is, indeed, a sexist take, it's one that is perpetuated by a patriarchal culture. Men have unreasonable standards thrust upon them the same way women do, but the standards are not necessarily equal in how they affect us, even on an individial level. Men are indeed seen as more violent as a whole, just as women are seen as sex objects as a whole, and working to change those societal pressures to conform to them is the point of pointing to "toxic masculinity." There are good aspects to masculinity to admire, that we can try to positively adopt those, the same way that women try to adopt positive aspects of feminimity!

I actually see this the worst among conservative men and women. Conservative men and women tell you to "man up", that "men don't cry", that you need to "take it with your own hands", the idea of "alpha and beta males". Very aggressive, and that's a toxic mindset. The hard part about those cultural aspects is that they DO affect us all! Part of feminism is undersranding these biases within yourself and actively working to change them.

The first thing I do when I meet a woman I don't know in a social setting is to somehow work in that I have a girlfriend in a way that feels organic, and a good amount of times I can see their body language shift

This actually goes both ways, too. Women very often have to tell men they aren't interested, trying to tell them gently that they are taken. (There is the joke of "I have a boyfriend." out of the blue to the most innocuous things.) This is a consequence of a society that pushes men to be the active pursuer of relationships. It is, frankly, stressful to have every interaction possibly be taken as a signal that you want a relationship. It is easy for me to understand their perspective because it feels like how my PTSD manifested. Trauma is hard to deal with, and being understanding and accomodating can also be hard, too.

There are a lot of single women I know that are very much architects of their own misery. They have super shallow dating standards, unrealistic expectations, and this mentality that if a man is attractive enough red flags are just misunderstanding.

Very much applies to anyone of any gender, so I'm not sure of the issue. I have seen this in cis-men, cis-women, trans-men, trans-women, enbies, gay men, lesbian women, and so on. This is not exclusive to women, and never will be.

  • There are multi hundred member Facebook groups of women in every city that gossip about the men they date. This is obviously toxic, but the organizers frame it as a #metoo thing so it's widely considered acceptable.

Okay? Don't date them? I don't see the issue, but discussing your partners isn't particularly weird, and men do this too, and if it bothers you, well, don't date anyone who does it.

  • Basically everything I mentioned would be considered absolutely unacceptable if genders were reversed, but if you bring this up then you'll get a pseudo academic lecture about historical oppression and the patriarchy that basically boils down to "it's different when I do it".

There's some truth to that. Women are, ostensibly, an oppressed group, having less rights than men do, as well as being the one responsible when they get pregnant. They maintain a level of risk that most men do not have to face (though you could consider it a different type of risk, since men also face their own adversities that women typically do not.)

However, that's irrelevant because none of the things you listed were women-exclusive behaviors, but I figured I would explain why it might be important just in case.

  • This isn't a big deal at all, but it's sort of ridiculous that most women I meet both consider themselves feminist but will get peeved if men don't pay for the date.

Don't date them, then? I mean, I get it. I like when my dates offer to split, and I do judge them if they don't. But it's definitely silly to bring up as though they aren't a feminist for engaging in that behavior. Progress is made incrementally, and sometimes we aren't aware lf our own biases.

I support queer identities, but have become more conservative in my idea of monogamy and commitment.

Hey man, monogamy is a dating choice, just like ENM. No one makes you have to be one or the other. It is okay to be monogamous, but no one has ever oppressed monogamous people.

I even briefly considered staying home this election when it looked like the main line of attack democrats were gonna do was just to call republicans weirdos over and over again until November, because I'm personally just done associating myself with middle school mean girl politics.

It is really weird to me that you thought calling people weird for legitimately fascist behavior as a way of denormalizing that behavior was somehow a step too far, but the behavior that provoked it wasn't, as if they hadn't attempted to call the behavior out beforehand and were ignored.

If that was gonna dissuade you, then I think you might have bigger problems.

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hesusingthespiritbomb -3 points 2 years ago

Jesus fucking christ why do I bother. You didn't ask because you wanted to actually know what I thought. You just wanted to lecture me why I'm wrong. There was absolutely nothing I could have said that you wouldn't have used as a launching off point.

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