You've been considering leaving Twitter for a while, and suddenly one morning the bird has flown and Twitter has left you instead.

I think it's also a clear signal that things are really never going to return to normal, it's only getting worse from here. Which is easy those of us on the outside to observe, but maybe slightly harder from the inside when you still have most of the community still intact and posting.

I think it’s spot on. It’s people who were already going through the stages of grief, were kinda stuck in “bargaining” (like: “nah, Twitter is not really dead, it’ll come back”), and the symbolism there about Twitter really being gone-gone fast-tracked them to depression/acceptance.

When spez doubled down and Reddit imploded i moved to lemmy. I also discovered mastodon. But then i realized the reason i used twitter was to follow certain people/accounts none of which are on mastodon.

We had a reason to ditch Reddit, because they forced everyone off our beloved third party apps. But twitter didn't have this kind of meltdown. Im only a consumer on Twitter, and its still working fine. No reason to quit. The rate limit is dumb but it isn't the end of the world.

Couldn't agree more. I was a fail whale era twitter user. Wayyyyy early user. I ditched it a little bit before musk actually, but I still ended up seeing threads here and there because of Reddit.

Just today I landed on a Twitter thread, saw that x and it was like, strangely repulsing...I wanted to get the hell out of there asap

I had a similar thought. Non-techies are going to open up Twitter and see a different logo but it the text still says Twitter and think they're on a phishing site.

People run away from things which are sad and cringe.

Threads would like to have a word

No one goes around saying they're on twitter and that they tweet. People aren't going to leave in any great numbers because it's now called X.

It's like watching an episode of Beavis and Butt-Head where every single decision they make is a bad decision. And it's hilarious.

Every surge will retain more people as every surge brings more content.

Yeah, if moving to Threads wasn't enough to hold people there, I doubt Mastodon will be able to hold them either.

I get your point, but Twitter is more analogous to Mastadon than to Lemmy.

Yea he just settles for treating his employees with no respect and firing them on a whim without their owed severance pay.

Yeah, I mean, who hasn't wanted to experiment with putting microchips into baboon skulls, or called someone a pedophile just because they hurt your feelings, or treats their workers like absolute trash? He's just a regular guy doing regular things and the media is using him as their whipping boy.

What are you on about? Every opportunity to trash him??? He can easily change his behaviour, he's a trash person so he doesn't. He absolutely wants to deny the poor their rights, look at how he treats the workers of twitter and how he spoke of those he fired. I truly don't know how you can be this blind unless it's willful. Get real

Wait, what? Have you ever heard of longtermism? "Your stupid peasants' suffering today matters little if we can take humanity to space^TM^. Don't hold back progress." If this is not enslaving humanity and shitting on the poor, I don't know what is.

He doesn't need to enslave humanity, just his Mars colony. As far as money over rights are concerned, his 'free speech absolutist digital town square' sure does give a lot more privileges for those willing to pay.

Musk has openly stated his support for the Republicans and for right wing causes countless times during his twitter shitposting period. If anything he has more openly voiced support of enslavement of humanity and the denial of the rights of poors than most of his billionaire colleagues, who are mostly all too smart to voice those ideas anywhere in public.

Is Firefish the same thing as Calckey?

I created a Calckey account a couple of weeks ago but it was basically a weird Mastodon with even fewer people from what I could tell.

*�odus

Oh yeah

Begin rich makes one feel infallible. Thinking one's self to be infallible leads to these kinds of decisions.

Unfortunately, once you get enough money the system is designed to keep you wealthy no matter how much you fuck up.

Like, Trump has had multiple failed companies including casinos thay failed because he had them competeing with each other.

Yet while he's probably not a billionaire he still has the status of "wealthy" and managed to fail into the most powerful position in government.

Musk had more money, and therefore can fuck up way harder and still be fine. He could burn Twitter to the ground for all the effect it would have on him.

Lol i just cant imagine that level of ineptitude.

Am I living in a simulation?

It's just the Dunning-Kruger effect at work, he thinks because he successfully ran a rocket manufacturing company to viability that he's definitely going to be able to run a social media company too.

Turns out the B2B style government contract model isn't exactly the same as B2C social media advertising model.

His initial wealth of 42 million dollars came from working on travel software. He used that wealth to become rich by founding x.com, a payments company that failed. How does a failing company lead to massive wealth you might ask? Well, that failing company merged with PayPal.com, and Musk was CEO of the merged company for about 6 months before he got fired. PayPal went on to be huge, so after he was fired he made his fortune on his shares. Next he invested money in Tesla, bought the title of "co founder" even though he wasn't, waited 7 years passively then noticed the company wasn't going anywhere, replaced an exec or two and then took credit for turning the company around. So yeah, maybe that's his end game? Make Twitter (now x.com) as bad as the old x.com so someone merges and gives him stocks and fires him again?

Sounds like it's time to re-watch Glass Onion. Elon Musk is Miles Bron.

It was on purpose. Its completely obvious the powerful right in America wanted Twitter gone. I bet it could have swung the overton window with how much influence it had.

“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by yadda yadda…”

Maybe that second one tho.

Personally, I think he's just a magic blend of incompetent, arrogant, and in over his head.

I know this is the Case. I am just amazed at how incompetent he is.

I'm mean if there were an incompetent olympics he would win silver (the highest possible medal).

Whether or not it’s on purpose, I think that Twitter was vulnerable to this outcome due to literally years of mismanagement. Dorsey hadn’t given a fuck for quite some time, and Twitter’s problems always grew faster than its solutions.

The investors were the kind of people that don't want the kind of on the ground, quick fact reporting that happened during uprisings and the like.

It can't be a coincidence. They're tanking the most popular tool for getting quick communication out.

If this is a Brewster’s Millions situation, and he just has to lose $44 billion dollars in a year, I’m voting we let the writers stay on strike.

alphabet

meta

Fucking allergies, geez.

Oh God have you met people? When people talk about their tweeting, the neurochemical feedback mechanism is "oh wow you tweet?" It's filled with positive cultural context.

If that response becomes "wtf is twxing?" that entire zeitgeist just collapses and people will view the service with active repulsion. Like a toy they've grown their identity out of. Or a cringe dress they wore to their sibling's wedding.

I'm looking at this as “various little breaking points” some very trivial, but when taken as a whole, could break someone's tolerance, causing someone to be an eX-user.

Everybody has a breaking point, right? This could have been the breaking point for many people.

Something that literally makes no difference, like a name change?

It is surreal that a single capitalist can be motivated to take down a monolith like Twitter. Yeah I'm convinced it's intentional. Funny when I first heard he bought Twitter for the price he paid my initial thought was he's buying it to kill it, but then I thought nobody would waste that kind of money on a personal vendetta. I guess Elon is just that crazy.

Also, we do have some influencers here - namely a few Linux youtubers, and technology connections. Basically it's those that you would somewhat expect to have a presence on a budding social network like mastodon.

Exactly, no one cares until Mr beast or Beyonce moves and they aren't going to mastodon haha

Threads will kill nothing for as long as it remains unavailable in Europe due to breaking GDPR.

Bluesky is more likely, particularly given its Twitter's former ceo building it.

It's been stated that Meta intends to federate Threads with Mastodon eventually, so either will ultimately be viable.

I haven't really seen anyone leave twitter for threads, just post the same thing to both. Also noticing a few accounts I have on both actually posting on Threads asking others if their user engagement has dropped significantly. Google trends etc all show that Threads has dropped off a cliff after the initial surge in downloads.

Yes and no. For example, I work in pest control and mostly lurked twitter for pest control content, as a lot of experts in that field used twitter exclusively and never bothered with facebook, instagram, reddit, discord, or any other networking site.

There is absolutely no pest control content from those experts on Mastodon at this time. Niche, I know, but its a concrete example about how not every base is covered on Mastodon (yet).

Its silly to blame people for not flocking there when there is a demonstrable lack of content.

There is no algorithm feeding you.

Mmmm say it again

There are no people I find interesting. I cannot stress this enough, Mastodon has absolutely jack shit for content. A hashtag with relevancy to me might have two posts, EVER, both from dead accounts.

It is a barren wasteland. I am very much tired of people assuming I want to be spoonfed content when I just want there to be any content at all.

I mostly just used Twitter to keep updated on various indie games/artists/authors/content creators. I'd imagine they would go to Threads or Tiktok's new thing before giving Mastadon a shot, and some of them have.

I don't want to be a downer; Mastadon would be my favorite Twitter alternative with how it functions, but in its present state Mastadon just doesn't work for my use case. I think for now I just have to phase Twitter-likes out of my life unless I'm willing to bite the bullet on putting up with meta or 𝕏.

That's Elon's new screen name. You're getting the two confused.

Lol

Same thing for me over here, trying to subscribe to enough communities to make my home feed custom enough, but if I'm bored, test c/all

Shitter is actually a nice mastodon (former twitter) client! :D

Plus how do you even make a new verb? Doesn’t even work in the slightest. “Oh hey did you see my recent X?” … “oh man the other day Steph X’d something hilarious “ …. Lol nope doesn’t work.

so XSE?

How long do we give them to reply before we presume them lost, and the waters dangerous?

Mastodon is great, I like it way more than lemmy. TBH its the only federated social I think is actually doing really well, way more users but still a small town vibe. People posting art or pics of their gardens or linux posts. Better moderation overall. It's very gay and I love it.

Yes, they are.

Something like 30% of posts are CSA. So not a very safe environment.

They are very safe, and more reliable than Lemmy in general.

Definitely true, totally forgot about breaking events in my original comment. I would say it still lands in bucket B as it's algorithmically fed at least in my experience as I don't follow many news sources directly, it just finds its way into my feed via the algorithm.

when people are going to Mastodon with breaking news is when we'll know twitter is completely dead.

Absolutely great point

Fast, but inefficient.

If it was just Musk, it would be a lot easier to chalk up to one idiot. But with so many idiots acting in concert? That sounds like somebody's in their ears. Probably without them realizing it.

Mmm...which flavor of privacy invasion would you like?

That makes no sense. You want to be on twitter but not twitter with a new name?

That's strange since it's still called twitter on both the iOS and Google Play stores lol

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.twitter.android&pli=1

https://apps.apple.com/au/app/twitter/id333903271

Sounds like you're making up stories lol. Neither of them have updated their logo or name.

Do you think this is how you get people to make the move?

If not, why make this comment in the first place?

Thanks for the permission. I'm glad I've got you to help me in my hour of need.

Not in terms of the interface, but I couldn't get the timeline to not be a complete mess of all sorts of topics.