Trump Knifes Steve Bannon, Sides with Elon Musk in MAGA War Over Foreign Work Permits: ‘I’ve Always Liked the Visas’

2 years ago by Flying Squid to c/politics

Trump praised programs that allow foreign workers to travel to the US for jobs many on the far-right have argued are being stolen from American citizens.

Looks like President Musk is still in charge.

thefartographer 137 points 2 years ago

Are we not slamming anymore? We're now stabbing?

For a brief irrational second, this headline gave me actual hope.

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FlyingSquid 40 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the headline sucks, but I still thought it was worth pasting for the info.

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thefartographer 26 points 2 years ago

Legitimately, I'd argue that it makes more sense than "slammed" since it likely alludes to backstabbing. I don't think I was ready for that sharp of imagery this morning, but I won't argue with the wording.

Anyway, what's with your obsession with US politics, you damn foreigner?? (Congratulations again)

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FlyingSquid 20 points 2 years ago

Hey, I'm still a U.S. citizen too! Actually, I didn't qualify for a "communications officer" job at the Royal Mint because I have dual nationalities.

Because, you know, they might tell me something secret that they want the public to hear, what with it being a communications officer position.

And thanks again.

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partial_accumen 7 points 2 years ago

I get their concern. It may not be the "what" so much as the "when" of the information.

edit: I'm still crossing my fingers for you finding a UK job, though. I'm sure you're looking at the same places I am for you. I see there was a position for video editor open on the Isle of Mann just 4 months ago, so I have high hope for your prospects!

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TachyonTele 2 points 2 years ago

Anyway, what’s with your obsession with US politics, you damn foreigner??

Damn. I waiting for a good chance to make the same joke. Nicely done.

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Hylactor 8 points 2 years ago

At least stabbing has the whole Brutus thing and depicts additional information; "Knifes": betrays as well as attacks. But why not just say "betrays"? If there's one thing Americans seem to universally hate, it's syllables.

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Mouselemming 4 points 2 years ago

It's an affectation left over from the days when the editor had to find a compromise between the size of the type he wanted for the big headline and the number of letters that would fit on the page. Betrays has one more letter than Knifes. As you mentioned, "knifes" is also better because of everyone who will get the reference to Julius Cæsar.

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thefartographer 6 points 2 years ago

Oooo! Ooooo! Oooooooooo!!!! Now's my time to shine with useless information I learned in a college class that I dropped!

When using a printing press, there are multiple metal stamps of each letter. WHEN YOU WERE USING THE BIG LETTERS, YOU'D REACH FOR THE ONES ON THE "UPPER CASE", while the smaller more frequently used letters were kept on the "lower case".

And when you needed more s p a c e between letters, you'd use more of the blank metal blocks, which were made from lead, which is why that spacing us called leading.

Finally, some printing press operators discovered that if you made letters too small, they'd become hard to read, but that you could take advantage of the blank space inside the letter blocks by designing the letters from corner to corner diagonally instead of straight up and down to fit more condensed letters on a single page—this space-saving leaning style was pioneered in Italy. To lean your letters like this was to do like the Italians did, hence your printing style was italicized.

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Mouselemming 2 points 2 years ago

Oooh, I didn't realize italics made it possible to put bigger letters in smaller spaces! Thanks, Professor!

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Hylactor 3 points 2 years ago

That's certainly part of it. But it's also a nation trend in communication. Trump has done a brilliant job at weaponizing and popularizing clipped, terse, sparse, blunt, chunky, speaking. He's basically made headlines into a kind of vernacular, where everything is at once overly explicit and yet open to interpretation. Like, tone over content, and difficulty to ignore over clarity. It's less that he has invented it, and more like he identified it, but has used it as a form of lexical gamesmanship. Set the narrative by being the one that's remembered, fidelity to truth be damned. And giving his black-hole-like ability to bend discourse to be on his terms, everyone is falling in line and speaking in big dumb wooden blocks in order to remain competitive.

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thefartographer 4 points 2 years ago

it's syllables

Ow, my ears! So big sound for so little letters! Make read out loud bad!!!

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WindyRebel 3 points 2 years ago

Knifing, dude.

Stabbing implies there was a puncture and knives can be used to slash or puncture.

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thefartographer 2 points 2 years ago

Good point! They can also be used to spread butter, but context clues make me think this is unlikely what they meant.

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WindyRebel 2 points 2 years ago

For sure. I’m just being sassy. 😋

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thefartographer 2 points 2 years ago

Getting sassy with a knife? Now you're just describing me telling my wife to get out of the kitchen while I'm cooking dinner

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jagged_circle 88 points 2 years ago

Donwvoted because no fascists were actually stabbed

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T00l_shed 6 points 2 years ago

In due time

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jagged_circle 5 points 2 years ago

Thoughts and prayers

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T00l_shed 2 points 2 years ago

Tots and pears

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Treczoks 2 points 2 years ago

Don't worry, it has just begun. Blood will flow in time.

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davidagain 72 points 2 years ago

Vice President Trump has to get on board with President Musk's policy platform in public even if they disagree in private.

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Boddhisatva 28 points 2 years ago
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CitizenKong 8 points 2 years ago

Vance is the presidential dog that humps the furniture.

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halfatank 2 points 2 years ago
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skulblaka 2 points 2 years ago

Might have something to do with the tractor trailers full of Peter Thiel's money that follows him around everywhere

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pivot_root 45 points 2 years ago

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Trump trying to tighten H1-B visas in his first term to make it harder to import foreign workers?

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FlyingSquid 64 points 2 years ago

You're looking for consistency where there is none.

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pivot_root 19 points 2 years ago

Good point.

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CitizenKong 8 points 2 years ago

"I don't stand by anything." Donald Trump, 2017

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circuitfarmer 20 points 2 years ago

His supporters generally have a memory span of about 3 days

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ECB 6 points 2 years ago

The flexibility of the rights platform is actually one of their greatest strengths.

They are happy to flip-flop on things that they kinda care about in order to keep people onside and get what they really care about.

We on the left should learn from this. Less purity tests and trying to die on every hill or we're fucked.

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agamemnonymous 3 points 2 years ago

The core problem is that right wing ideology is inherently authoritarian, right wing voters find their figurehead and toe the line. Left wing ideology is inherently individualistic, left wing voters find their personal ideologies and seldom compromise. The Right huddles into their big tent while the Left endlessly splinters into feuding sub-factions.

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Furbag 6 points 2 years ago

You see, that was before Musk bought him.

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CharlesDarwin 4 points 2 years ago

It seems donvict is quite flexible on his positions. Kinda like his view on TikTok...

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Hobbes_Dent 42 points 2 years ago

And lo, America realized the foreign Nazi techbro had control of the whole country once he had the leader chosen by the neophytes and bigots cucking for him.

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Nougat 5 points 2 years ago

... America realized ...

lol no

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CharlesDarwin 1 point 2 years ago

People such as those here on Lemmy probably did long ago. Meanwhile, most of the right is totally asleep on matters of labor rights and the class war (being conducted ON them).

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ininewcrow 32 points 2 years ago

This administrations alliances are easy to figure out

Who has the most money? .... that's who they'll support

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tiefling 26 points 2 years ago

I'm betting that President Elect Musk pulled some election BS and is holding it over Taint Maid Trump's head for leverage.

South African apartheid, coming soon to a state near you

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djsoren19 28 points 2 years ago

I mean, he literally did. Are you forgetting the part where Musk was straight up buying votes in swing states? It was all public corruption, the U.S. just isn't doing shit about it.

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Hylactor 12 points 2 years ago

Pretty neat little conspiracy. Musk tells Don, I can rig it, Don takes the deal, monkey paw outcome: Musk blackmails Don with proof of cheating. I don't know how plausible it actually is, but it's interesting as a story.

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TachyonTele 4 points 2 years ago

Aside from buying votes, he also gave Trump millions of Dollars.

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Furbag 1 point 2 years ago

I’m betting that President Elect Musk pulled some election BS and is holding it over Taint Maid Trump’s head for leverage.

This might have been a believable conspiracy theory eight years ago during Trump's first term, but we live in 2024, where twice-impeached and convicted felon Donald Trump won reelection. I can't imagine there's any dirt that can actually harm him at this point. He doesn't need to seek anybody's approval, and nothing he ever does can come back to hurt him. He's a king now and people need to come to grips with that new reality. Approval ratings mean nothing. Censures mean nothing. Impeachments mean nothing.

If I were Trump and somebody had dirt on me, I'd say "Go ahead and tell them. I'll come out and tell them that it's true and that I was smart to do it. And then they'll love me even more for it and they'll make you public enemy number one for going against me."

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Treczoks 15 points 2 years ago

First, Acting President-Elect Musk kicking the Maga-Brains in the balls with his H-1B dreams, now Good Little Boy Trump biting at Bannon. I love them coming apart like that. Let the fight begin!

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CharlesDarwin 4 points 2 years ago

It's going to come down to moneyed interests, I think. How they keep the racist interests happy is the real question.

They are going to need some major distraction for the people that will not benefit by and/or be actively harmed by H-1Bs taking American jobs...I just wonder what it will be. It was a pretty big mistake for Musk/Bannon to give away the job-stealing game so publicly. It's like they are rubbing magabrainz noses right in it by this public slapfight. The magabrainz are not really known for their long-term memory, but this is really close to home for a lot of jobs and it was in the headlines for days....I bet more than a few remember and so MurdochCo is going to need one helluva distraction to keep their minds off of this, most especially if they do lose their jobs and/or have a hard time getting a new job with similar compensation due to the H-1B scam.

The ultra-rich in his base, whether they are racist or not, are most likely delighted by the prospect of destroying American jobs.

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jaggedrobotpubes 14 points 2 years ago

Elon Musk manages to make some pretty cool sunglasses look not cool.

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Kalysta 13 points 2 years ago

And Bannon is why Trump is where he is.

May the MAGA civil war completely halt their ability to get anything done.

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Red_October 2 points 2 years ago

There is one thing I'd like to see them accomplish in the MAGA civil war, and that is the absolute and utter destruction of the MAGA klans.

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halfatank 10 points 2 years ago
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FlyingSquid 14 points 2 years ago path: 0 14207191 14207226, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
renrenPDX 10 points 2 years ago

Trump just can’t get enough of that Musk teet.

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Maiq 2 points 2 years ago

Balls deep in Trump e is!

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nieceandtows 9 points 2 years ago

How the turntables

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aeronmelon 9 points 2 years ago

“Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.”

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clutchtwopointzero 9 points 2 years ago
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xc2215x 7 points 2 years ago

They love being rich.

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bitchkat 6 points 2 years ago

He thinks they are talking about credit cards.

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Th4tGuyII 5 points 2 years ago

Whelp - anyone who took bets on Donnie turning his back on his main audience before even starting his presidency can now collect their winnings

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CharlesDarwin 5 points 2 years ago

Bleh, not loving this. Flooding the place with indentured servants is not going to go well for this country or for Americans.

However, maybe it WILL wake a few BothSiderists and maybe even a few of the magabrainz....donvict is not that into you and he does not GAF about you or your livelihood.

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DogPeePoo 4 points 2 years ago

Trump do love to have him a “rocket man” in his orbit.

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militaryintelligence 2 points 2 years ago

Musk needs smart people to exploit. It's now Trump's job to suck him off

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Rapidcreek 1 point 2 years ago
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aesthelete 1 point 2 years ago
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