Elon Musk doubles down on salute controversy with a bunch of Nazi jokes
a year ago by MicroWave to c/politics
Summary
Elon Musk escalated controversy over accusations that his salute at a Trump rally resembled a "Sieg heil" by posting Nazi-related jokes on X, referencing figures like Rudolf Hess and Joseph Goebbels.
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) initially defended Musk, urging "a bit of grace" and "benefit of the doubt," but later condemned his Holocaust-related jokes as offensive.
Conservative Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also defended Musk.
Critics highlighted Musk's history of promoting far-right conspiracy theories and enabling neo-Nazi content on X, raising concerns about increasing offensive rhetoric on the platform.
Apartheid Defense League
People said they were just an Israel lobbyist group and I just shrugged my shoulders. But after defending genocide and Musk, it's clear the last thing they actually care about is "defamation"...
I mean I have to wonder how it took you so long to come to that conclusion, but better late than never I guess.
The ADL lost all credibility forever, and the right to open their trap about anything, when they failed to condemn Musk's Nazi salute in the strongest possible terms.
Someone hasn't been paying attention to what they've been saying every time someone criticized the atrocities of Israeli governments for the past 75 years..
The reason why they bent over backwards to defend him at first is the same reason why they called him "a friend to Jews": because of his positive relations with their favorite fascist apartheid regime.
Honestly, they were skating by way too easily before this. Even when they were contributing to the adpocalypse there was major double standards employed, and the genocides in Palestine just broke the cap of their fascist apologia volcano.
His supporters have argued alternately that Musk’s autism affects how he behaves in public, and that the salute was nothing much out of the ordinary.
I'm on the spectrum. People, stop using neurodivergence as an excuse for someone being a shitty person. People like us can still tell good from evil even if we don't fully understand common social behaviors. The golden rule is easy enough to understand.
I’ve never seen an autistic person just give a Nazi salute accidentally. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person do it accidentally, especially twice, and—twice with other Nazis in the room.
That asshole did everything except click his heals.
It's like Rosanne blaming her racism on sleep medication. Sure thing racist.
Oh no, it gets worse?! 😂 I haven't been keeping up.
They'll be gaslighting everyone right up to the actual point of goosestepping in front of their dried orange peel - and then past that.
"Stop calling us Nazis! That's a hate crime!", they'll be squealing as they work on their Nazi plans.
OMG, I haven't even thought about this. Imagine thousands of people doing this together all at once. A terrifying visual indeed!
Unfortunately I think it is now necessary to think of such things if only to inoculate ourselves against the numbness that follows horror. They escalate in shocking steps as an intentional strategy to stun healthy people into inaction.
At least for me personally, I have chosen not to spend the next 4 years in a state of emotional shock. I get it, they are callous monsters. I won’t let them distract me from working with every remaining sane person in my life to destroy them.
Many people that would do this are the same people that criticized taking a knee.
Look at the faces in the background of the photo of him from the side. Glee.
Any bets on when Trumpers start doing it at rallies? I give it a month max.
Umm... didn't they already durring his first term? (admitted not one trump showed up at),
Trump famously said there's good people on both sides.
It's not a Salute Controversy
It's not a hand gesture
It's a NAZI SALUTE and if you can't / won't / don't admit it or challenge it then you are enabling the problem and allow creeping Nazism and far right ideology into the public consciousness.
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
-Jean-Paul Sartre
Fuck this quote has basically had nonstop use for ten years now. It's the same fucking bullshit every time. It's all "jokes" right up until it's not.
Nazi doubles down on being a nazi
can we acknowledge how insane these things are in combination:
- the worlds richest man
- buys a large social media platform X, where most political conversations take place
- supports a presidential candidate with millions of dollars
- candidate gets elected
- starts doing a Hitler salute
- starts posting Nazi Names in a joking/meme manner
This is Keyne West story all over again, but with more money and more power & influence.
supports a presidential candidate with millions of dollars
Not just millions of dollars. Hundreds of millions of dollars. He used at least $260 million dollars to help Trump win.
That's in addition to everything everyone else spent though. That was all extra.
Then the leader of Israel defends him while committing genocide of their oldest neighbors
So the group that kept saying if you say "free palestanian" or "israel is bad" you are a nazi and antisemitic, suddenly had no issue with nazi marks by Musk?
if elon musk doesn't get sued for hate crime, while student protesting genocide do, then you know who is your enemies,,
You didn't say anything; that's the problem here.
Which antisemitic dog whistle and in what way?
I mean it is true, though... Well not completely but a good 80% of the way there. The reason the establishment will go after you for criticizing Israel (if they can, anyway) is because they're getting Israeli lobby and MIC money. I'm not sure what the dog whistle here is supposed to be. The "Jews control the world" thing? Obviously that's not true but Israel does exert a lot of control over US politics.
Trump found his Nazi general.
He is a giant fragile nazi gas bag, yes.
Non-Nazi response to someone asking why you did a Nazi salute: "What? I would never do that!"
Nazi response to someone asking why you did a Nazi salute: "Haha it was just a prank bro"
Never let the nazis gaslight you or certain american media channels try to pan away and deemphasise what he did in their footage. If anyone tries to claim this was not a nazi salute, just point them to this few-seconds-long comparison video, maybe download with yt-dlp (cw: nazis doing nazi stuff like chanting) nya.
Also I'm autistic and nazi salutes are not stimming or simple social difference or whatever.
Stims are usually repetitive and/or simple motions or behaviours or similar (e.g. I stim by jumping up and down or repeating phrases or spinning my arms in circles, sometimes from happiness and sometimes as a way to regulate emotions), and not a complex deliberate action. That salute was a deliberate and non-repetitive action. I could see the bit at the start where he walks around and moves his arms up and down repeatedly being a stim, but the other stuff? And specifically the nazi salute? No.
Plus autistic people are not on the whole less capable of understanding ethics^1 or empathising (though we may have trouble reading non-autistic social cues or emotional states and thought processes, but if we understand what someone is feeling we experience empathy, though of course there are variations on that just like with non-autistic people, if you want to know more just look up the double empathy problem :p). He knows what he was doing.
I'm sick of people (usually bad faith actors of course but still) blaming this shit on autisticness and autistic people. Its like people think that being autistic just means being a dick and not caring about other people (of course, there are plenty of dickish autistic people just like there are of any other group of people nya). And its especially disgusting given that Nazis attempted to genocide us.
I do understand that not everyone understands autism very well but come on.... its such bullshit <.<
1: some studies suggest autistic people are actually more likely to follow their own sense of ethics even without social pressure when it would benefit them to break it, though these kinds of tests are done in very limited circumstances and I've not really looked at them in that much detail
And Huffington Post still too busy being fucking jellospined little bitches to actually say that the fuckwit did indeed throw the Nazi salute. Twice. Call it what it is, you Nazi sympathizer fucking cheesedick shitmouth cowards.
100% just asked his edgylord ai to generate them.
I'm like 95% sure he used this exact tweet like a few years ago. I could've sworn I saw all of these stupid puns before.
The problem with Nazi jokes is that Nazis don't think they are funny, and nobody else thinks they are jokes.
I’m having Deja vu. Didn’t he respond to something with a nazi pun tweet a couple years ago?
Edit: Well, fuck me! It was 3 months ago, almost to the day. Same “jokes” too.
Well, I did Nazi that coming! Those fools will Goebbels anything down …
I bet their pronouns are He/Himmler!
-Elon Musk, Oct 21, 2024
There is a link to the twat at the beginning of the article.
Openly Nazi shit fuck does Nazi stuff news at 11
"jokes"
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The ADL lost all credibility forever, and the right to open their trap about anything, when they failed to condemn Musk's Nazi salute in the strongest possible terms.
It's not great when gentiles don't distance themselves clearly from the South African Nazi. But when jews don't either - especially jews who purport to defend against defamation of all things - it's extremely clear that those people are either totally corrupt or extremely wimpy.
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