Council housing when?

2 years ago by cm0002 to c/lemmyshitpost

Empricorn 131 points 2 years ago

Have you ever, in your life, received a rent decrease because they were matching the economic conditions...?

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WalrusDragonOnABike 57 points 2 years ago

The only way I got that to happen is by putting in my two-month notice and then signing up for the exact same unit when they listed it. Didn't even have to moveout and they ended up charging us the lower rate for the two weeks between our current lease ending and the new one starting.

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marron12 16 points 2 years ago

Were you pretty sure the price would go down, or did you just roll the dice? I've watched prices at the places I've lived, and they only ever seem to go up. As in, I'm paying $1600, about to get raised to $1800, and the unit next door is listed for $1900. But one place used RealPage, and I would bet the other one used something like that too.

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WalrusDragonOnABike 16 points 2 years ago

They had already went down by $400 for other units at the same apartment on the same floor. This was 2020, so covid lowered a lot of prices

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Resonosity 3 points 2 years ago

Big brain

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psx_crab 21 points 2 years ago

Housing price didn't ever go down in most cases because of hoarding, there's no way leeches will ever decrease the rent.

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shortrounddev 2 points 2 years ago
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shortrounddev 2 points 2 years ago
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zipzoopaboop 55 points 2 years ago

Property tax needs to go up exponentially with the quantity that you own

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kameecoding 11 points 2 years ago

And companies own, or even better that better have some good reasoning for buying a property that's for living.

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Delphia 7 points 2 years ago

With an exemption for the first 5 years after building. Companies and investors need to be incentivised to build property not hold onto it.

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shortrounddev 1 point 2 years ago
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Katana314 4 points 2 years ago

They could also tie it to occupancy. If a functional residence goes more than half the year without someone living in it, property tax is quintupled.

There’s danger to writing such a law correctly, unfortunately. I recall something in Ecuador where people were leaving extensions to their home just barely unfinished so that they could avoid certain residence laws until they had a buyer.

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henfredemars 51 points 2 years ago

They actively colluded through price-fixing software, and very little is done about it.

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mosiacmango 7 points 2 years ago

Lina Khans FTC sued them, but you can bet that will be quietly dropped soon.

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Excrubulent 33 points 2 years ago

"It's the market" is another way of saying "because I can".

They don't have to raise the rent to match the market, the market is simply a signal to them that if they lost you by raising the rent, they could potentially replace you for the same or higher rent.

They could ignore that and leave your rent alone. They don't. It's a choice.

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terraborra 24 points 2 years ago

Look, what I’d say to you is, that we are laser focussed on delivering outcomes that synergise with our plan to get on with undoing the housing crisis the Labour created.

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Devanismyname 19 points 2 years ago

No one is forcing you to raise your prices you cunt.

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commander -2 points 2 years ago

Not necessarily true. There are powerful cultural forces at play that they're not willing to acknowledge, yet alone overcome.

We're kind of in the same boat. We think that if we have more, then we deserve more before those who have less. That's just what these people are doing, only they're doing it way better than us.

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melpomenesclevage -4 points 2 years ago
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SoftestSapphic 9 points 2 years ago

"Everyone elses profits" means other landlords and property owners, not people who plan on living in their home.

Why does being a landlord need to be profitable? Why does being privlaged enough to own a human right come with the right to free money?

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melpomenesclevage 4 points 2 years ago
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DragonTypeWyvern 1 point 2 years ago path: 0 15545931 15547079 15547743, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Agent641 17 points 2 years ago

I use these memes to gradually radicalize my friends and family 👍

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DevotedOtter 13 points 2 years ago

Wait? There's NZ memes /community here?

Also peak meme!

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flambonkscious 6 points 2 years ago

So odd seeing 'the human thumb' here. NZ is an embarrassment and this twat is NOT helping

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DevotedOtter 3 points 2 years ago

Sorry, I'm new here. Apparently I haven't enabled my notifications.

But yes it is embarrassing, for him and for us

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bawdy 5 points 2 years ago

I was about to say, that landlord looks super familiar

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yumyumsmuncher 12 points 2 years ago

Lol my landlord literally told me that

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 11 points 2 years ago
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melpomenesclevage 12 points 2 years ago
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DragonTypeWyvern 5 points 2 years ago

That's not really true, per Smithian capitalism but Smith also called landlords parasites so

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melpomenesclevage 2 points 2 years ago
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fuamerikkka 3 points 2 years ago

This.

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commander 2 points 2 years ago

The core problem is consumerism. The idea that if you have more, then you should get more and spend more while complaining you don't have enough.

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finitebanjo 11 points 2 years ago

Some townships and counties have strict regulations and housing authorities which make coops and communal housing difficult, rarely intentionally but often as a result of requiring liability and responsibility for repairs and outcomes.

That said, there is a big push in a lot of cities such as Denver which is allowing more options.

One thing to be wary about is that depending on the structure of the commune/cooperative it might be indistinguishable from an HOA or a Condo.

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Rivalarrival 5 points 2 years ago

To the occupant, "Land Contracts" are probably the most rent-like alternatives to actual rent.

I would draw a big target on institutional investors, by jacking property taxes through the roof, while issuing "homestead" exemptions to owner occupants. As soon as we do that, every landlord (who doesn't live on the property) is going to get hit with a massive tax bill...

OR

... they are going to find some way to make their "tenant" qualify as the "owner".

Here's where "Land Contracts" come in. These are a form of seller financing. They are recorded by the county, much like a deed. The "buyer" is considered the owner.

With a land contract, you pay a fixed monthly payment, much like a mortgage. That payment normally doesn't change for the life of the contract: You aren't going to face a steep rent hike every year.

For the first three years, you are free to walk away from the property, just like leaving a rental. Ownership simply reverts to the seller.

After three years, your previous payments are considered the "down payment" on the property. The contract converts to a traditional mortgage. You continue to make the same payments, but now, you have equity in the home.

So, you can get the short-term flexibility of renting, but if you realize you've settled down, you're already well on your way to ownership.

Landlords get a way to claim that the property is occupied by the "owner", and avoid the massive tax hike.

Adopting this, the only properties that will remain "for rent" will be the spare units in duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes, where the landlord occupies one of the units.

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finitebanjo 2 points 2 years ago

Land Contracts and Contracts for Deed aren't considered mortgages so they lack tax incentives as well as legal protections for buyers and sellers, but yes I do agree that a long term contract beats a monthly rental agreement in terms of locking in a rate.

Sometimes you can get trapped in a contract that would disqualify all your payments up to that point if it doesn't have terms about cashing in your equity unless you pay the full amount due via selling to a third party or getting a bank loan with which you can repay via renting or selling your property like some sort of sick landlord carousel.

I definitely don't know if I would "recommend" this route for people who aren't well-learned in matters of real estate, if they do go this route then I absolutely insist they have a trustworthy attorney act as intermediary for the transaction.

Thank you for expanding this discussion.

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margaritox 10 points 2 years ago

I wish something could be done about this.

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Dumbitch 3 points 2 years ago

If only a hero could rise up..

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margaritox 7 points 2 years ago

I mean, every year my rent increases and my pay doesn’t (not every year). So every year I have less to spend each month.

The thing that pisses me off is that I’m not Asking to be able to afford a house. I already gave up on that a long time ago. I’m only asking to be able to stay at a place that I’ve been living in for 10 years. And by the way, moving is also super expensive. On top of that, let’s say I did move to a place where the rent is cheaper initially, the rent is gonna be increasing every year there too.

I’m just trying to live a stable, modest life without having a panic attack every time I see her, no tape to my door (which usually signifies a rent increase notification).

I really wish something could be done about this.

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Dumbitch 2 points 2 years ago

I’m fully with you. I just want to have a roof over my head, have some time for hobbies, and be able to afford cheese at the supermarket. Alas, apparently we’re asking for too much! How very selfish of us.

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margaritox 2 points 2 years ago

I would also like to add that I earn above a minimum wage. It’s by no means a stellar income, but it’s decent. On top of that, live with my mom, so we split the rent! And somehow I’m here stressing over whether I’ll be able to afford my place of residence a few years from now. This is not okay. I really want there to be some change, but I don’t know what can be done.

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commander 1 point 2 years ago

Would you be willing to do it in a town of 3,000 people?

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margaritox 1 point 2 years ago

100%

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commander 1 point 2 years ago

The thing that pisses me off is that I’m not Asking to be able to afford a house. I already gave up on that a long time ago.

Sigh. This is part of the problem. We need to value ownership more than renting.

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margaritox 1 point 2 years ago

I can’t afford a down payment. You can’t buy a decent house in Cali for less than a mil. I get it. Paying rent sucks (with the advantage of not having to pay your repairs). But I can’t afford a house at this point. Just can’t afford to save enough money. So although I know it’s more optimal, I’m okay with paying rent in the current market. I just can’t deal with the constant increases.

I think you get my point though. Paying rent is not optimal, but a person with a decent job should be able to afford it. While I don’t disagree with what you’re trying to say, I don’t think it’s hard to understand what I’m getting at either.

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PeriodicallyPedantic 3 points 2 years ago

A real bro
A super bro
A super Mario bro
Super Mario's bro

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IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol 1 point 2 years ago
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PeriodicallyPedantic 1 point 2 years ago
  1. This was a silly joke
  2. WhyNotBoth.jpg
  3. Imo providing high density housing is less evil than leaching off people to fund your retirement, building for building.
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uriel238 9 points 2 years ago path: 0 15545237, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
gilbert31 5 points 2 years ago

Build more housing.

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pdqcp 5 points 2 years ago

Most cities are regulated to prevent more housing being built. You should definitely read on the works of Strong Towns, and similar groups, and how you can help change the landscape of your city

Their website is great and has a ton of details https://www.strongtowns.org/

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ADTJ 1 point 2 years ago

Doesn't work if landlords just buy that too.

Needs proper regulation

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shortrounddev 3 points 2 years ago
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ADTJ 2 points 2 years ago

That entirely depends on where you live.

Your statement that the vast majority of homes are owned by the residents is not true where I live.

Blanket policies don't work, governments need to implement regulation that recognises the nuance of different markets.

But also yes, build more homes too

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shortrounddev 1 point 2 years ago
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Etterra 4 points 2 years ago

There need to be apartment building co-ops.

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commander 2 points 2 years ago

I keep telling my friends rent is going up every 2 years.

Looks like it's about that time.

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