Speaker Mike Johnson floats eliminating federal courts as GOP ramps up attacks on judges
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166M morons handed them the reins, not 77M. Over 89M proud Americans didn't vote. They share the blame.
In 10 years people will be saying I didn't vote for Trump and using that phrase like a shield. Over half the US adult population made this happen.
I know of one person who did not vote. She is 85. Cant get around by herself and recently moved in with her higly MAGA daughter. When she lived with me she would just tell me to fill out her ballot for her. I never did but would mail it for her if she did complete one herself. My mom would not have shown her the same respect. I also have a buddy who does some work with me every so often. He doesnt have cable, the internet or a smart phone. His wife and kids are medicaid eligable. I spoke with him several times. He has not time or energy outside of work, work, family, and a cold Tecate. I'm not sure of everyones story but we got here through manipulation from the merchants. This is a class war that most dont even realize we are in. Yeah there are a lot of straight up nazi's, a ton of just stupid people...but for the most part people just wanna scrape by and have a little at the end of the day.
Exactly. I can count on conservatives being gullible morons and voting red no matter what, but we need to count on the other third of the country opening their goddamned ears and eyes. Apathy and disinterest had no place in this election.
That's why they made sure they owned the media, that way they control the narrative. Conservatives learned after Watergate that the media has the actual power, so we got Fox News.
No one gave a shit about Watergate until the media started reporting about it and educated the public instead of just glossing over the event. You don't need to be competent or popular if the majority of the public never hears about your stupidity and shitty decisions.
Texas had a 61% voter turnout with Trump only winning with 56% of the vote meaning that of all eligible voters only 34% voted for trump. So yes, even the voters in Texas who said my vote doesnāt matter because the state is going red anyway were wrong it only went red because all of them stayed home
When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat.
George Carlin
Splash Zone.
75 million are unwilling participants.
195 million are effectively as moronic as Trump voters.
If it makes you feel better, that's the way it is in most countries. The US is actually the oddball letting unelected bureaucrats run a portion of the executive branch. In Canada for example, we don't even vote for our prime minister, and they hold absolute executive power with only symbolic cheques and balances (whom they appoint and dismiss) which a federal judge just confirmed during a hearing on proroguing our parliament. So, as bad as it seems, it could be worse. We aren't even allowed to share non canadian news unless the platform has an exclusive agreement with the news outlet to compensate them.
Trump may sound like a dictator, but at least he actually CAN be removed and was voted in. Our last prime minister threw a tantrum and had to have people convince him to step down, because there was no other legal way to remove him, and anyone who tried he just kicked out of cabinet.
The fact that you can see that things are messed up means you have more freedom than you may think. Most Canadians think things are fine here, while we have the highest number of Canadians ever going to food banks, and a billionaire just took over as PM without an election, and is currently polling to win the election he called because well he's a billionaire in a poor country and can just buy the victory.
The biggest argument so far against Trump "you voted for a billionaire and you thought he cared about you" is a valid one, and yet we're doing it here like lemmings.
All I can say is I hope the world changes fast.
Trump may sound like a dictator, but at least he actually CAN be removed and was voted in.
Trump has spoken numerous times about elections not being fair, after all his stunts this year I don't think we can possibly expect fair elections or even elections.
I think that applies everywhere tbh. I don't think the people have power anymore at all.
When billionaires are your leaders, you aren't in control period.
Basically there's no executive branch. Voters elect parliament and parliament elects government ministers (equivalent to the Cabinet) and the PM, similar to how the US Congress elects a speaker and committee chairs.
Which is why that guy is full of shit. Trying to position Carney as being an unelected dictator totally overlooks our entire system of government. And indeed he was elected, as leader. He doesn't have a seat in parliament but one of the first things he did was call an election which wasn't officially required until October.
In the Ontario provincial election that just happened the Liberal leader failed to win her seat and has so far regained the leadership while not being in parliament. It happens.
The guy who came up with checks and balances really overlooked only giving one branch a military
The guy who came up with checks and balances really overlooked only giving one branch a military
?
The United States didn't start keeping a large standing Army until after WWII!
Take a look at this from Statista for most of our history the US would build up the military for a war and then strip it back to almost nothing as soon as the fighting was over.
The original guys didn't fuck it up we allowed Congress to break it!
the military is actually a welfare/jobs program.
And everything that implies aside, it's a really good one. Coming out of the military with a decent MOS or G.I. Bill is one of the few paths to real class mobility left for a lot of people. That's by design I'm sure.
Coming out of the military with a decent MOS or G.I. Bill is one of the few paths to real class mobility left for a lot of people.
For now. They have already screwed over a huge chunk of people who were enrolled in loan forgiveness for federal service and continually screw vets over with the intentionally horrible VA system. I'd not count on the GI Bill surviving Trump.
Oh for sure, on all points. It's a real good jobs program, it's one of the few vessels for class mobility left, and it's entirely that way by design.
Can't have everyone getting free college. Just the ones that work for us for a few years, breathe in one or more toxic chemicals, and come out the other side brainwashed by being spoonfed nationalist propaganda the whole time like they're making jarhead foie gras. Assuming you didn't start sucking that koolaid tit in highschool from the junior ROTC.
I've got nothing but respect for our Marines. Someone has to be the dumbest motherfucker in the room, and they will proudly step into those shoes.
That's not it. The thing is that they refused acknowledging that partisanship would evolve. They preferred to hold on to the illusion that everybody involved in office would always be altruistic and solely work for the greater good, which was laughably naive even then (as many people pointed out to them).
That part is really up to the voters hence the federalist papers and the whole āmasses are assesā thingā¦
Youāre right and this is BS.
In retrospect, they should have not made First Past the Post voting our voting standard. That is primarily what has caused our partisanship to arise to the extent that it has.
We can still change the voting system in each state individually to move away from First Past the Post, but that requires each individual state to have ballot initiative going that people can vote on for a new system such as Ranked Robin voting, STAR voting, Score voting, or even Ranked Choice voting.
It wasnāt intending on having an army at all, they thought a standing army would lead to tyranny so they came up with the 2nd amendment instead so a militia could be called as needed
Which tbh was really short sighted as well. Every nation needs an army to hold onto their self determination. And it needs to be well funded. Such has been proved repeatedly throughout history
Fair enough
I heard a few times that there is this saying in English that the tree of democracy needs to be watered from time to time with the blood of tyrants or something like that. Isn't it about time for that? They do seem to be tearing down democracy.
That is from Thomas Jefferson:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." https://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2074
Republicans do seem to be all about the founding fathers, so I guess they're just trying to make it possible to follow his guidance by proactively providing some tyrants.
I would be more curious to see which liberal patriots are ready to open a vein.
Lots of edgy onliners want to be the guy who gets to shoot a fascist. Much harder to find a liberal willing to stick their necks out and die from return fire.
Meanwhile, you've got rank upon rank of Afghan/Iraq War veteran coming home broke and humiliated and steeped in blood, fully pilled on the MAGA message thanks to the brainrot coursing through military media. They're filling up local police departments and spilling over into elected offices and bubbling up in all sorts of extractive industries. Few of them seem shy about killing or dying. All of them think they are the Patriots and its those liberal middle-managers who are the Tyrants.
To do that would mean, not merely to be defeated, but to acknowledge defeatāand the difference between these two things is what keeps the world going.
-upton sinclair
A security clusterfuck involving the Secretary of Defense, the VP, and a list of other high level executive branch personnel is spilling all over the news. Even conservative news outlets are calling for heads to roll.
Mike Johnson thinks this is a good time to consider dismantling the Justice branch.
We have power of funding over the courts and all these other things,ā Johnson told reporters on Tuesday. āBut desperate times call for desperate measures, and Congress is going to act.ā
SCOTUS: "Overruled"
Co-equal branches bitches
Let me introduce you to the Marshall of the Supreme Court.
They can, and will, deputize as many as they need.
Unless, of course, this is all part of the plan and the Supreme Court is, in fact, complicit anyway.
I have bad news for you.
Indeed. The persistent hope of average Americans that some superhero will ride in from stage left and fix all of this for them is... something. It won't happen. You all need to work together on this. Everybody needs to act and fight.
"Fuck all of you."
--The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas, probably
Abolish the federal government. Let the Untied States be 55 new countries
Thank whatever goddess exists that I live in California. Iām sure Iād be okay.
The Untied States
But with the same president though. Or else what's the point of the whole thing.
At which point there are no federal laws and the country dissolves into feudal fiefdoms.
Donāt Peter Thiel and all the other amphetamine tech bros want to make cyberpunk tech cities with no laws except those of the controlling corporations on Federal land so they can test out like mind control chips and shit?
Like EPCOT but for real this time
Shush Greenie. It's a Billionaire's playground and there's so many of them knocking around that you can't throw a rock without hitting three of 'em.
First the judicial, and then the legislative.
Go ahead Mike. Rubberstamp your own pink slip.
Itās amazing that theyāre not seeing it coming. Theyāll lose all their power and prestige
No. People like Johnson will get "advisory" positions after congress has been dissolved. They will lack for nothing. Why be a weak government official who has to do stupid shit like running for re-election, when you can be part of the nobility and the King's court? Maybe Johnson or Taylor-Green will get their own little fiefdom where they can treat the peasants however they want? The power trip fantasies are truly endless in Trump's wondrous America.
...for about a 100 people give or take.
Yup, it's the start of the new ruling class. Only ring kissers allowed.
Nah, anyone who looks like they have a little power will die in our night of long knives. It's not possible to be sycophantic enough, you need to look weak enough. And you need to have backed the right leader, but Trump's not looking like he's got a real grip on the reins and I don't think they even know who will be.
The fucking Reichwingers are pulling off a Third Reich move.
I mean I honestly don't understand why Congressman even exist anymore. I mean they've ceded all over their Authority and power to the executive branch. Mike Johnson should resign and relieve the taxpayers of the burden of his salary.
I mean I honestly donāt understand why Congressman even exist anymore.
To represent their local bourgeois landlords and business tyrants, as a means of coordinating graft across a country as large and diverse as the United States.
The executive needs a network of underlings to manage 300 million people.
America as a country is fucked beyond repair at this point. Thatās OK. Now that the rest of the world sees the truth behind this fascist empire, no oneās going to give a Nazi salute fuck about them.
The world will happily go on without Trump.
Fuck Trumps America.
You're from Canada I presume? Fascist countries only work via loot economies, since nothing else can stabilize their regime (true for Nazi Germany, true for Italy, true for the Roman Empire). To get loot, you need someone who has stuff to loot. Preferably close by for quick looting. Preferably weak.
Can you think of any country that would make for an excellent fat cow ready to have its wealth and labor extracted?
Iām going to assume youāre referring to Ukraine as Trump wants 1/2 their mineral and raw materials?
Oh no, wait, itās Greenland right because he wants to continue to provide them security.
Oh hold up. I think youāre referring to Gaza so he can make it the Israeli Mar a lardo.
No wait wait wait, I think Iām still wrong. He wants to take Panama because they owe him.
Shoot. So many countries. Are you referring to Mexico because: Fentanyl? No it must be Canada because we are also heavy into letting fentanyl in and thatās why heās giving us tariffs right?
And if you think their northern neighbour is going to let them roll over us on tanks and insulin to over throw us, I think you underestimate the hatred we have for the current ignorant regime.
Well I see a lot of twitter outrage from Canadians, but not any trench digging and fortification building. I guess "elbows up" means "let's just hope this all blows over". Your hatred of the current US regime won't stop Abrams tanks.
Oh so literally just the third reich not even a remix
Ah yes, let's eliminate one branch of the government leaving the other two free to do fuck all... Meanwhile the DNC... come join us in the sticks for a nice cozy town hall so we can explain how we're going to give away the country so Nancy Pelosi can continue to insider trade.
Hey, remember in the musical RENT when that character said ātimes are shitty, but Iām pretty sure they canāt get worseā AND IT WAS 1996
I would do just about anything, really.
And murica just said "sure" and then rolled over with a whimper
And ships.
Now, if I was a state, I would say "well, guess you don't get income taxes from our citizens cause you got no judges backing it up."
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They've successfully gotten Congress' balls in hand, next step is the Judiciary's...
I fear the US will not even closely resemble any level of democracy by the end of the next 2-4yrs.
77M morons handed them the reins. They're riding hell-for-leather over the cliff.
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