Plasma falling to the surface of the sun.

a year ago by Wilshire to c/space

Another cloud free day in Scotland let me catch almost 9 hours of this huge and lively prom. Taken with my home made 90mm modded Coronado PST and DMK21 camera. Software: CdC, Eqmod, DSSR, AutoStakkert!, Wavesharp, DVS, Shotcut and Gimp.

David Wilson on April 8, 2025 @ Inverness, Scotland

https://spaceweathergallery2.com/...

leverage 190 points a year ago

The "earth to scale" really boggles my mind 🫨

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jared 57 points a year ago

Thank you, I didn't even see that.

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snipon 18 points a year ago

Needs banana

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MelodiousFunk 32 points a year ago

It's there, you just gotta zoom in a bit.

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illi 10 points a year ago

There is banana on the Earth

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iAvicenna 4 points a year ago

it really puts things in perspective...

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ininewcrow 79 points a year ago

All that energy and here we are burning oil like cavemen in the dark.

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GenosseFlosse 27 points a year ago

Caveman didn't burn oil 🤓

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Schmoo 12 points a year ago

They might have soaked fabric or some other material in animal fat (which is just oil that's solid at room temperature), wrapped it around the end of a stick, and lit it on fire. 🤓🤓

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arakhis_ 4 points a year ago

checkmate communists

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taco 2 points a year ago
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Texas_Hangover 10 points a year ago

Well I can't ram the sun up the ass of my Silverado. Although if I outlive that thing, I'm replacing it with a horse or something. New vehicles freak me out man.

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brbposting 2 points a year ago

Come on tell tech daddy where you go on weekdays & weekends for how long at what speed with how many passengers!

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BaroqueInMind 1 point a year ago

You know any efficient way to harness that energy?

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Someonelol 37 points a year ago

Solar panels?

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Bezier 1 point a year ago

Haven't seen a solar panel that can take a cloud of plasma many times the size of earth.

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BaroqueInMind -7 points a year ago

The most efficient, a NASA solar panel that cost tens of thousands of dollars and uses fucking gold foil, is only 30% efficient. So try again.

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SkyeStarfall 13 points a year ago

Who said you need to catch all of it in a single panel??

The reason nasa goes overboard (though, not really), is because it's worth it for space stuff. On the surface we have an abundance of space

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Serinus 11 points a year ago

Modern residential solar panels are around 22-24% efficient.

And why are you worried about the rest of that energy? You worried it's gonna be lost?

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 26 points a year ago

Yeah just grab a handful.

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dtrain 23 points a year ago

Doesn’t take a genius: Dyson Sphere

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Wilshire 15 points a year ago

Doesn’t take a genius

Dyson Sphere

I assume that's sarcasm 😂

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Flemmy 15 points a year ago

Roughly you need at least 906.000 km² of 1x1m solar panelling.

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wreckedcarzz 8 points a year ago

It never loses suction

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anzo 4 points a year ago

Corn has been doing that. We only need to wait for the oil lobby to die and then science will probably figure things out...

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Ledericas 3 points a year ago

tng dyson sphere, except the star end up killing or causing the civilization to abandon the sphere.

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nexguy 64 points a year ago

Looks like the video is about 20 minutes of real time per 1 second of video. There are dops of plasma that fall further than the diameter of Earth in less than one in video second... which means the plasma is falling the more than the diameter of Earth in less than 20 minutes. That's close to 100,000 mph or 160,000 kph. Dang

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andros_rex 23 points a year ago

About 0.01% of the speed of light. I got a Lorentz factor of 1.00000001 so not quite fast enough for relativistic stuff.

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davzing 1 point a year ago

The description states it was ~9h of video

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Sconrad122 24 points a year ago

Description says the poster caught 9h of video, but based on the clock watermark in the top left, what is shown is about 7.5h of video (maybe cut for the interesting bits/highest quality) from 0830ish to 1600ish) at a rate of roughly 20 minutes of real time per 1 second video time, as the original commenter pointed out

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trotfox 63 points a year ago

It's crazy this guy is just doing this on his own. Looks like something from NASA to me.

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1luv8008135 56 points a year ago

So dumb question, but what’s causing the gap between the plasma cloud(?) and the surface? And is that gap filled with something that is invisible?

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crapwittyname 86 points a year ago

Plasma is electrically charged, so it interacts with magnetic lines.
The sun has magnetic field lines just as the earth does. It also rotates. But- since it's not solid, it doesn't have to rotate all at the same speed. The plasma in fast-rotating regions drags the field lines further than the plasma in slow rotating areas, creating weird loops, breaks and reconnections in the field lines. I'm almost certain that what we're seeing in this lovely bit of photography is a cloud of plasma travelling across, or trapped by one of those rogue field lines which has been pushed upwards from the surface by differential rotation.

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1luv8008135 18 points a year ago

That’s fascinating. Thank you for sharing!

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ivanafterall 6 points a year ago

Nuh-uh, come on, that can't be real. So cool.

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crapwittyname 15 points a year ago

Even cooler: solar flares and mass ejections come about when one of the lines snaps like a whip and hurls billions of tonnes of plasma into space. Search: solar magnetic reconnection.

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dependencyinjection 5 points a year ago

I see words in this thread but don’t understand, but are you saying here that those streams / clouds are taught? In order to be snapped.

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niktemadur 35 points a year ago

The dynamics there due to sheer gravity, magnetism and levels of energy/radiation that are utterly alien to our daily experience.

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NikkiDimes 21 points a year ago

I get some of the basic underlying mechanics, but I absolutely cannot comprehend it. Incredible.

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perestroika 20 points a year ago
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niktemadur 2 points a year ago

This is the mechanism that makes Cepheid stars regularly and predictably change intensity

Doesn't it also make the Cepheid noticeably swell (then deflate) in circumference? Or does it maintain the same basic size, and it's just storing magnetic bubbles of hot plasma like a halo, before bursting and releasing all that accumulated material?

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MysteriousSophon21 2 points a year ago

That gap is actually magnetic field lines suspending the plasma above the surface - its like the plasma is "riding" along magnetic highways in the sun's atmosphere, and the space between isnt empty but filled with less dense solar atmosphere thats invisible at this wavelenght.

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BaroqueInMind 43 points a year ago

This image is cool as fuck. No! Wait. This image is hot as fuck.

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badcommandorfilename 7 points a year ago

It's both!

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slampisko 4 points a year ago

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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gcheliotis 36 points a year ago

Absolutely amazing that you could capture that with “amateur” equipment, although it is clear from your post that a lot went into this. Bravo!

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andyburke 30 points a year ago

fuckin love the fediverse

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voodooattack 28 points a year ago

God damned KDE devs at it again /s

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Sgarcnl 18 points a year ago

If the earth to scale is accurate, the drops coming to the surface might be approximately close to the land mass of a large continent.

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Soulg 2 points a year ago

Space is fuckin big man

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Ghyste 18 points a year ago

Amazing capture! Easily one of the best I've ever seen.

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jaxxed 16 points a year ago

That is mezmerizing. Is there any way to know how big this thing is?

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CmdrUlle 31 points a year ago

See Banana Earth for scale, top left?

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jaxxed 16 points a year ago

Totally missed that. Thx.

That thing is massive!

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RaptorBenn 15 points a year ago

We should look at the sun more. Follow me for more good advice.

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danc4498 14 points a year ago

Is this the actual image your camera sees? Or is it more like heat sensors visualized, or something like that?

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GamingChairModel 20 points a year ago

"actual image your camera sees" is a term that is hard to define with astrophotography, because it's kinda hard to define with regular digital photography, too.

The sensor collects raw data on its pixels, where the amount of radiation that makes it past that pixel's color filter actually excites the electrons on that particular pixel and gets processed on the image processing chip, where each pixel is assigned a color and it gets added together as larger added pixels in some image.

So what does a camera "see"? It depends on how the lenses and filters in front of that sensor are set up, and it depends on how susceptible to electrical noise that sensor is, and it depends on the configuration of how long it looks for each frame. Many of these sensors are sensitive to a wide range of light wavelengths, so the filter determines whether any particular pixel sees red, blue, or green light. Some get configured to filter out all but ultraviolet or infrared wavelengths, at which point the camera can "see" what the human eye cannot.

A long exposure can collect light over a long period of time to show even very faint light, at least in the dark.

There are all sorts of mechanical tricks at that point. Image stabilization tries to keep the beams of focused light stabilized on the sensor, and may compensate for movement with some offsetting movement, so that the pixel is collecting light from the same direction over the course of its entire exposure. Or, some people want to rotate their camera along with the celestial subject, a star or a planet they're trying to get a picture of, to compensate for the Earth's rotation over the long exposure.

And then there are computational tricks. Just as you might physically move the sensor or lens to compensate for motion, you may just process the incoming sensor data to understand that a particular subject's light will hit multiple pixels over time, and can get added together in software rather than at the sensor's own charged pixels.

So astrophotography is just an extension of normal photography's use of filtering out the wavelengths you don't want, and processing the data that hits the sensor. It's just that there needs to be a lot more thought and configuration of those filters and processing algorithms than the default that sits on a typical phone's camera app and hardware.

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jdnewmil 12 points a year ago

Not OP, but solar photography requires super dense filters so like sunglasses alter what you see from "actual" the filters also alter the image from "actual" yet this is what would "actually" be "seen" by the camera. So yes and no depending how you want to interpret "actual".

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danc4498 3 points a year ago

Thanks, this makes sense. I’ve heard there are some great astronomy photos where what we are seeing isn’t actually visible to the naked eye. Rather it’s invisible gases or something, and the photos are just visualizations based on assigning colors to density… I guess I was wondering if it was something like that. It sounds like it’s not.

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jdnewmil 2 points a year ago

When they sense invisible electromagnetic wavelengths like xrays or microwaves and "assign" colors to completely invisible wavelengths then that is false color imaging. Possible to do with the sun... but unlikely with an amateur rig.

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lurker2718 2 points a year ago

To add what the others said, this image is most likely taken with a special filter for taking only one specific wavelength, so color. In this case H-alpha, so excited hydrogen atoms, which is deep red. With this and additional filters for safety you can see more or less this image yourself, except it's red. I already had the opportunity to try this.

Here is a site showing daily images of the sun taken with different filters. Red is H-alpha, also shown in OP. Only with this filter you can see the protuberances. White is white, so what you would see if you could look directly without burning your eyes, or what you see with eclipse goggles. Right is another special Line, Calcium K. All of this you can look at with the right filters and a telescope and it looks similar to the images here, except the two colors are even more saturated than shown here. However, changes are on the order of minutes, so it looks more like an still image.

However, the sun and planets are pretty much the only object where images are similar to what you could see with telescope and filters. Colorful images of the moon are always heavily processed. For nebulas and galaxies its even more of a difference, they are just too dark to see more than a grey blob. For this a telescope does not help much, similar to a lens not helping to see in the dark. So nebulas and galaxies are shown at least hat they would look like, if they were brighter. But most of the time they are shown with a lot brighter colors than reality.

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LovableSidekick 14 points a year ago

For comparison the distance from the plasma cloud to the sun's surface is about how far communication satellites in geostationary orbit are above Earth.

I know all kinds of nerdy things.

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CarbonatedPastaSauce 13 points a year ago

It’s like raiiiiiiiaaaaaiiiiiiiin…

Cool shot!

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higgsboson 11 points a year ago

Another cloud free day in Scotland let me catch almost 9 hours of this huge and lively prom.

As soon as I read the word "Scotland", my brain went back and revised this to be read in Scott Manley's voice.

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nailbar 4 points a year ago

Thanks, now mine did too

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Sgarcnl 10 points a year ago

This is beautiful

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dependencyinjection 8 points a year ago

I need details on how you homemade some stuff.

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rovingnothing29 4 points a year ago path: 0 16364818 16366775, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 1
dependencyinjection 2 points a year ago

Thanks. That looks like some serious work, although very detailed.

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Suck_on_my_Presence 7 points a year ago

How are you using Gimp with this?

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NikkiDimes 7 points a year ago

I'm assuming, like the other response said, overlay graphics, but also possibly to animate it.

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fakeman_pretendname 5 points a year ago

Probably for making the static overlay graphics, and possibly the clock hands.

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vegantomato 7 points a year ago

I'll give you $10 if you lick it.

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BilliamBoberts 6 points a year ago

I licked it, where's my money?

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vegantomato 3 points a year ago

Prove it!

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biokernel 1 point a year ago

I bet you had to spend at least 2$ for ice cream

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TerranFenrir 5 points a year ago

So beautiful!

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daddycool 5 points a year ago
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BalderSion 4 points a year ago

What a hottie.

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AnUnusualRelic 4 points a year ago

It could be sun birds.

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dogerwaul 3 points a year ago
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Davel23 9 points a year ago

In the upper-left-hand corner there's an Earth to scale. Should give you some idea.

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dogerwaul 2 points a year ago
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JackbyDev 3 points a year ago

What does this mean for ham radio?

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jsomae 3 points a year ago

looks like a creature.

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grrgyle 2 points a year ago

Yum!

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kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E 2 points a year ago

i d like one a little slower , here i just blink and one hour passes.. mesmerising !

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humanspiral 1 point a year ago

is this rain? Does the sun have a plasma cycle that could affect wattage that hits earth?

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stupidcasey 1 point a year ago

Look at this and tell me life couldn't evolve on the Sun, that is a stable structure with reputation patterns, this alone is enough to make Conway's game of Life

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meco03211 10 points a year ago

Life as we know it could not "evolve" on the sun. And technically life has to be present first before it can evolve. Evolution isn't what created life. It's just how the living change over time.

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trotfox 4 points a year ago

A gaseous cloud in space the size of 7 suns may have the ability to flow right past us, but also, think.

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Angry_Autist 4 points a year ago

I'm pretty sure somewhere a being exists that is basically just self modifying plasma fields living inside a nova remnant

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floofloof 9 points a year ago

Sounds like the kind of thing a self-modifying plasma field living inside a nova remnant would say, on the internets.

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Angry_Autist 4 points a year ago

No indeed, fellow carbon-having being! I am truly an human, that does many humanish things like laughing and farting, sometimes both at once! akakakakak!

It is silly to think that anything as beautiful and majestic as a self-modifying EM field could exist, I mean such a being would be perfection right? Basically a glowing radiant god yes? Oh my I truly wish I was a free-flying energyform of psychically controlled vortexes of pure creation, instead of this little crunchy salt water sack that we humans are always being.

No, I truly love this cold little rocky world where matter can exist in other simpler forms than vibrating and glorious plasma.

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stupidcasey 1 point a year ago

Obviously plasma beings would be nothing like us at least physically (theoretically it could have similar systems like nervous systems)

And as for life having to exist first, ehh, terms get vague at that point, are the chemicals alive? No, but when they happen to be in a certain state they are, I prefer to think of it like Rocks evolve into a planet, not the same thing as biological evolution but it's the same word and since the chemicals are the predecessor to life then they did evolve from them in that manner just no genetics involved

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meco03211 2 points a year ago

Except you don't just get to conflate your personal definition of evolution with the scientific one. If you want to believe rocks "evolve" into a planet, that's fine. But if you start bringing that up without clarifying your definition of evolution and how it factually differs from the scientific one, people will think you're crazy.

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stupidcasey 1 point a year ago

Except chemicals do literally evolve into life which evolve into DNA, it is a fuzzy point because DNA didn't exist yet, but it is still natural selection and random chance that leads to the first life form, I am deliberately conflating biological evolution with the more main stream definition because at that point in time biology physics and chemistry were all physically conflated.

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Angry_Autist 6 points a year ago

They were born in the early days of all things, when even space burned with white hot fire

They persisted, EM fields feeding their core the kaleidoscope soup of nameless plasma and shattered atom hearts and over strange aeons began to learn to shape the fields that fed and flew them

In time as the particle sea began to cool, they found refuge in brief stars larger than solar systems, cavorting and chasing in the balmy updrafts so hot that even helium burns

Now in this cold distant future, where stars are but unreachable cinders, they scrimp and conserve the relatively little time our sun has left to them, some two billion short years hence.

Pray for our star children, we cannot grasp even a fraction of the cosmic empire they have lost

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reptar 2 points a year ago

we cannot grasp even a fraction of the cosmic empire they have lost

I just finished the last book in The Expanse. This really made me think of the gate builders

E: I should have also said, loved your post!

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Angry_Autist 2 points a year ago

Thank you, it's been a really low week and knowing you liked my post has been healing for me these two days.

Not enough people engage on lemmy yet and I wanted to be sure you knew that your comment meant a lot to me. I love to write but rarely get any feedback on it.

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reptar 2 points a year ago

:-)

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trotfox 2 points a year ago

We know it's life, I can see the souls sucking from the clouds into the inner sun.

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