Thank you, Renaissance-era Arabs, for blessing us with this drink 🙏

2 years ago by PugJesus to c/memes

PugJesus 66 points 2 years ago

Explanation: While use of coffee beans originated in Ethiopia, it was the Arabs of the 15th century AD who discovered that it could be brewed into a drink. While I'm not a coffee drinker myself, both an appreciation for the historical importance of the drink and the fantastic smell makes me thankful for the discovery as well! Truly the world's first step into modernity 🙏

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Mr_Fish 13 points 2 years ago

What was the use before the Arabs?

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PugJesus 27 points 2 years ago

Chewing the beans, I believe.

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expatriado 19 points 2 years ago

just like coca leaves in South America, coca tea came later, and eventually coca cola

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HowAbt2morrow 11 points 2 years ago

Coca Cola, yes.

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Twoafros 5 points a year ago

What's your source. Ethiopians will tell you up and down that they discovered and brewed coffee first

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PugJesus 3 points a year ago

https://www.thespruceeats.com/...

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Twoafros 7 points a year ago

This article says that both Ethiopia and Yemen claim to have discovered coffee. The Ethiopian claim is that it was discovered and brewed in Ethiopia and the Yemeni claim is that Ethiopians discovered but Yemenis brewed it. I like the Ethiopian story better but it either have no conclusive evidence

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PugJesus 3 points a year ago

I tend to believe the Yemeni version because of the earlier evidence, but you're correct that neither origin is definite, and history probably will never be fully certain on the matter.

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lugal 40 points a year ago

To be fair: caffeine is toxic to insects. It's not that we enjoy the intended effect like in hot chilies. It's that the effect differs between insects and mammals

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victorz 26 points a year ago

Man I hate coffee. Tastes like ash in water.

I have high sensitivity towards some tastes. Beer is also not palatable for me.

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CaptainBlagbird 18 points a year ago

Not sure why you're being down voted.

Personally I love the taste of coffee, but I can see how high "tastitivity" could make it unpleasant.

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victorz 5 points a year ago

Not sure why you're being down voted.

People take it personally maybe 😆💔

But yeah, coffee definitely feels like a love it or hate it kind of beverage.

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GladiusB 12 points a year ago

It sounds like you have had a bunch of dark roasts. Maybe try a light roast and see if it tastes the same?

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victorz 8 points a year ago

It doesn't taste the same, nor smell the same, but it all tastes bad. For me, it's like asking me to try different brands of cigarettes. I'll still cough no matter the subtle or big differences.

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GladiusB 2 points a year ago

I hear what your saying. But I enjoy coffee. But if you have tried different types it might not be for you.

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victorz 2 points a year ago

It definitely isn't for me – I know that from my experiences with it. I'm 38 years old, I'm fairly certain after this long. 😄

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sexy_peach 1 point a year ago

Try to drink small sips. Is there wine that you like?

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victorz 2 points a year ago

Small sips is all I've ever tasted.

Coffee drinkers just can't stop trying to coax me into drinking coffee. Will you all just stop giving me tips? It's dead, guys. 😂

Wine is okay, but I still have to drink enough that the alcohol taste wears off after a while. Then it tastes better.

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oppy1984 9 points a year ago

Same here. When people ask me why I don't drink coffee I have to explain to them that to me it tastes like a bars ashtray smells at the end of a busy night. The funny thing is everyone in my family loves coffee, I'm just the black sheep that drinks tea.

"Oh you just haven't had good coffee" nope sorry bud, I've had high end coffee, low end coffee, flavored coffee, everything. I even had a supervisor who basically lived on coffee and did everything he could to find a blend that was palatable to me, still nothing.

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victorz 4 points a year ago

Exactly. Many who like coffee just can't imagine how someone can just not even learn to love it, no matter how hard they try.

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oppy1984 1 point a year ago

Yep, I walking to my current department head when this came up, he literally stop talking and just stared at me.

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FooBarrington 7 points a year ago

Coffee is the same for me. Beer used to be the same, but I got used to it - still doesn't taste great, but cold it's acceptable. But not coffee, I never got used to it.

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victorz 3 points a year ago

That's the thing, I have no interest in subjecting myself to things until they are acceptable lol. I like eating and drinking things that are inherently good to begin with. Things that are good for me, and to me. 😅

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FooBarrington 4 points a year ago

Very understandable! I've also stopped drinking beer, because it never started tasting good.

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victorz 2 points a year ago

😆👌 Very reasonable outcome IMO!

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PugJesus 6 points a year ago

I don't care for the taste, but the smell is truly fantastic.

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victorz -1 points a year ago

Also like ash 👌

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Cethin 5 points a year ago

A lot of people think coffee has one taste. It does not. It isn't all that burnt to hell flavor like you get from Starbucks or most other places. A nice light roast will be more fruity. If you get the chance, I'd recommend trying a naturally processed coffee, which is where the seed is left in the fruit while it ferments and is then removed, so it gets a lot more of the fruit flavors.

I'd also say the same thing for beer, but even more so. Beer is like soup. There's so many different ways to make it with different ingredients. Budweiser, or similar, is what most people try, and it's shit. There's a massive world of beer though, with things like sours that can taste like wine, fruit juice, or candy, to stouts that can have coffee or chocolate notes, and so much more.

You have to have an open mind and explore. There may not be coffee you like (the number of flavors is broad, but still more limited), but I can promise you I could find beer you like. My mom used to say she hates beer, but I've found a good number that she enjoys because there isn't just one flavor.

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victorz 4 points a year ago

Thanks, people have been offering me fine beer and coffee my whole life since puberty hit. Everything tastes like shit to me, I'm sorry. Some people just don't like coffee or beer. 👍 And I'm perfectly happy not to need to drink them both. There's plenty of other things to enjoy. Like tea. Fruit juices. A gin and tonic perhaps. A mild non-alcoholic ginger beer.

But coffee can go sit in a corner.

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Cethin 2 points a year ago

Yeah, that's totally fine if you've actually been open to it and given it a shot! That's great. I just hate when people drink shitty beer (or anything else) and decide they don't like it. You aren't supposed to like those. They're just cheap.

(You can also not want to consume something and not have an opinion on if you like it or not, for those who just want to avoid them for whatever reason you have. That's perfectly good too.)

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victorz 2 points a year ago

You seem like a reasonable person. Thanks for backing me (and others) up like that. 🤝

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Chadus_Maximus 3 points a year ago

You can't just say all that and not name any brands. Sure do I start?

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Cethin 2 points a year ago

You start local. I can't help you with that unless you live near me.

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Robust_Mirror 1 point a year ago

I live in Australia. We are widely known for our quality and variety of both coffee and beer, and I can tell you I'm in the same boat as the other guy. It doesn't matter what flavours you try to use to mask it, the bad taste of the beer or coffee still comes through. I imagine it's like those people that say cilantro tastes like soap, and even a small amount in a dish makes the entire thing taste like soap, even if they didn't know it was in there.

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shadowedcross 4 points a year ago

Like ash? That's wild. My partner also doesn't like the taste, though she does like the smell. I wonder if there's some genetic stuff at play, since I don't know how else it could taste anything like ash.

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thedirtyknapkin 5 points a year ago

huh, i also think it tastes like ash...

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victorz 3 points a year ago

I do think there might be. I think it's called hyper tasters or something.

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PugJesus 3 points a year ago

"Burnt water" is how I described the taste to my coffee-loving grandparents after numerous (and enthusiastic! I wanted to like it) attempts to find coffee I liked.

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cod 3 points a year ago

Funny, after water, beer and coffee are my two most consumed drinks. I like whisky too but haven’t been drinking as much lately. It kind of comes and goes.

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sangriaferret 1 point a year ago

Unfortunately, water is third on that list for me.

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rogermiraki 2 points a year ago

It's definitely a taste that not everyone likes. I personally love coffee with a bit of sugar (1/2 a teaspoon per espresso shot). I also love espressos but hate Americanos. Maybe it's the type of drinks you tried?

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victorz 2 points a year ago

Drinks? I have just been given regular(?) northern European style coffee (maybe strong?) to taste, but every type of coffee just smells a different type of ash to me. I don't think it will matter.

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rogermiraki 3 points a year ago

Yeah, so it's just probably not for you. Some people love coffee, some don't. It's the way of life.

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victorz 2 points a year ago

Indeed 😁 And I'm living my life more than content not having to drink it, or be addicted to it (i.e. having to pour it into me in order to not have headaches/properly wake up etc). Feels great. I feel like I have some sort of super power when I feel fine not having had my first coffee of the day, and everyone else at work is rushing to the coffee machine.

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PlaidBaron 2 points a year ago

No no, coffea.

Ita coffee and tea together.

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victorz 2 points a year ago

🤮

What a way to ruin some tea.

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Amir 2 points a year ago

The Arabic dark roast beans are like used barbecue charcoal, but South American beans in a light roast are more like hazelnut black tea. There's a massive difference.

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victorz 2 points a year ago

No thanks on every single coffee type you can think of. 🙅‍♂️

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Jakeroxs 1 point a year ago

Same on both counts, except with a little creamer/sugar, it can taste good!

Beer big nope, no amount of flavor will remove the smell/taste of piss for me.

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fleebleneeble -23 points a year ago

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GregorGizeh 8 points a year ago

I'm an atheist, and I also think coffee is disgusting. 🤯

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victorz 6 points a year ago

The fuck does religion have to do with coffee 😆 Reaching too far off the edgy edge there, Edgerton.

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Grilipper54 2 points a year ago

Mormons aren't supposed to drink coffee.

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victorz 2 points a year ago

Ah, I see then. Must've been a joke still, because that's reaching far in the bag lol.

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randombullet 4 points a year ago

3 edgy 5 me

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leverage 3 points a year ago

Anarchist profile pic enforcing social norms 🤭

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fleebleneeble 1 point a year ago

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the_tab_key 3 points a year ago

🤡

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captainlezbian 18 points a year ago

Nah it was Ethiopians who realized it. Arabs agreed. Then Europeans lost their damn minds at the concept of a non alcoholic social beverage, much less one with an energizing effect

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Naz 6 points a year ago

Going from drunk to energized to inventing calculus, optics, a working theory of gravity and orbital mechanics in one lifetime

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fxomt 6 points a year ago

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niktemadur 2 points a year ago

GODDAMN, JIMMY!

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humanspiral 0 points a year ago

Did the Arabs also not give a shit about your compliments about their coffee, they know its good, they're the ones who buy it. And did the Arabs have "dead negroe storage" written on their tents?

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dream_weasel 0 points a year ago

"coffea"

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BeardedBlaze 3 points a year ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffea

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dream_weasel 2 points a year ago

Well well. TIL thanks!

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