floats away in disgust

a year ago by isolatedscotch to c/science_memes

toothbrush 130 points a year ago

AI comic 😞

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Maxxie 37 points a year ago

I've resigned myself that this will be the state of memes in the future, but god would I take a paint doodle over this.

.. only for ai to start drawing paint doodles because making an effort is not a human nature

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BossDj 19 points a year ago

How can you tell?

edit: I learned a lot today

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toothbrush 44 points a year ago

The inconsistent backround,

the cutoff text in the second panel,

that every panel is slightly different but featuring the same content(for example the "He" on helium is very slightly different in every panel, a regular artist would copy paste the text, not draw it every frame),

the font not being consistent(Look at the "E" in "HELIUM WALKS" and then the "E" in "WE DON'T"),

the absence of period symbols(Image Generation LLMs love to do this)

and the artstyle is very specific to other AI comics that are currently floating around the net.

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samus12345 11 points a year ago

Also, the off-white color used. AI HATES using pure white backgrounds for comics for some reason.

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xor 1 point a year ago
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Squorlple 24 points a year ago

Assuming you’re asking in earnest:

On a surface level, the banal averageness of features. There is no artist’s style — it’s just drawn in form of the “generic web comic” genre.

On a closer level, there are inconsistencies with background details that wouldn’t occur with an actual artist’s work. If somebody was manually drawing the background digitally, they would likely copy and paste the assets to both be consistent and to work efficiently (without a compromise to the work itself). The door and shelf of bottles behind the Helium change between frames, for example. If an artist were drawing this with physical pen and paper, they would care enough to meticulously recreate the bottles between frames if they were even going to include them with that much detail at all.

The text itself is also revealing. Not only is it inconsistent in size, boldness, and centering (ex. from one He to another), but the words spoken by the bartender are running out of space in the speechbubble. Artists can make mistakes like this in their publications, but consistently making errors that a quick lookover would catch shows that the “creator” of the content just wants it made, rather than it made well.

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Typhoonigator 21 points a year ago

On top of everything others have said, there's no watermark, signature, url, etc from an original artist. Webcomics like this will always have one unless it's removed by a reposter, which yeah, that happens, but I feel not as often these days. And when it does, it's a pretty shitty thing to do, and not a good situation either.

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tetris11 20 points a year ago

Inconsistent bsckground shelving

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desertdruid 14 points a year ago

the font, all ChatGPT produced "memes" use the same "font"

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Sorse 11 points a year ago

Another thing not mentioned is how when you zoom in on solid colors you see compression artefacts. Generative AI hates solid colors and sharp lines, so they often have slight imperfections

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ColdWater 2 points a year ago

LOL thanks I don't know that, it's pretty obvious when I zoom in

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Squorlple 125 points a year ago

AI slop

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isolatedscotch 17 points a year ago

op here, I reposted this from a group chat and didn't notice, sorry for forever cursing your eyes with the forbidden art

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Nima 13 points a year ago

why are people downvoting this? it seems it was an honest mistake.

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reactionality -20 points a year ago
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Nima 13 points a year ago

...you good, man? its an ai generated webcomic. its not the anti-christ

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krawutzikaputzi 4 points a year ago

Hey, that's pretty funny and made my day a little bit better. so don't worry about the hate :-)

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can 4 points a year ago

The bottles on the shelf behind the He change rapidly between panels.

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Skullgrid -18 points a year ago

Oh my god! Op is worse than the devil! Someone call the moderators! Oh the humanity!

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Prunebutt 33 points a year ago

Oh my god! The person who wants to push back on usage of the plagiarism machine that boils lakes is worse than the devil! Someone call the white house invade the commentor's nation! /s

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bleistift2 -34 points a year ago

I’m assuming that the OP has about the same drawing skills as me, which is to say, none. So in lieu of a tool to produce the cartoon for him, and (I bet) not willing to pay someone at least €20 to draw it, the only other option is that this comic would never have seen the light of day. Is that a better world for you?

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IndiBrony 52 points a year ago

You don't need any artistic skills to make a comic. Draw that shit on a napkin for all I care - if it's a good joke, we'll laugh. In fact, drawing it on a napkin would instantly increase the amount of charm ten-fold.

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lobut 32 points a year ago

I think XKCD is a good example of this.

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Squorlple 33 points a year ago

this comic would never have seen the light of day

Go to Google image search and type in “noble gas walks into a bar”. This farce of a comic and its joke are not special or unique in any way.

You could take one minute to draw this comic in pencil and it would look less gross. Or even MS Paint or PowerPoint. It’s slop because the creators, promulgators, and defenders of it don’t care about the audience who sees it because they each think that the veil of professional quality and soullessly averaged characteristics are enough to placate the lowest common denominator of consumers. Don’t misrepresent my position to make yourself feel better about your media diet.

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Grimy 3 points a year ago

I googled it and the three comics seem kind of terrible.

Not everyone finds MS Paint to be the most pleasing form to look at in any case. Really, it's a bit much to see the constant witch hunt, you literally spam your 2 word reply just to start a fight. It's just calculated negativity and gatekeeping.

I think you are making huge assumptions with the "not caring about the audience" segment.

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Prunebutt 19 points a year ago

Krita and drawing with a mouse are both there, you know.

Yes, the existence of this comic does make the world a worse place.

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Ephera 8 points a year ago

For me, it's a matter of this joke being old. If someone had sat down and drawn it as a comic anyways, that would make it cool and the thought of it can be humorous in its own way. But since they didn't, it's ultimately just an old joke. It not having been made through manual labor does change my enjoyment of it.

(And much like the others, I don't care that it looks well-drawn. I just care that someone decided, fuck it, I'm a silly goose, I'll spend some time crafting something for no good reason.)

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Elgenzay 7 points a year ago

If he didn't come up with the joke and he didn't come up with the art then what's the point

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Grimy 4 points a year ago

Making me laugh? Not to mention that most of the content are reposts, your definition doesn't leave many acceptable posts on lemmy.

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bleistift2 3 points a year ago

Gee, what’s the point of re-telling a joke? I can’t possibly tell. 🤦

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Soup -1 points a year ago

Combining some other comments:

Not only is this an old joke and not even particularly interesting, it also took a shit load of resources for the machine to produce it. A human being eats a hamburger and makes a few nice things + remains alive but one of these algorithms will consume ludicrous amounts of energy just to copy a mediocre joke and only so many people will even see it.

Not every joke needs to be pushed to the world and not every amateur musician deserves a main stage(certainly not if they’re just playing covers). Art is wonderful in that there are certainly barriers but at the same time it is relatively cheap to get the materials to practice. I literally know of a homeless woman who people give paper and pencils to and she spends her time drawing to pass the time.

So, yes, the world is a worse place for having this “art”.

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nightwatch_admin 2 points a year ago

You heavily underestimate the resources required to produce a hamburger, and thus the environmental impact of a human creating such a comic, but you’re even then not wrong: AI is an excessively heavy power consumer.

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Soup 1 point a year ago

Someone can do other things with the energy from a hamburger is all I’m saying, and even if they do nothing but stay alive that’s already a better use of that energy. I also had thought about that and, to be fair, a hamburger is only a very small portion of the cow.

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bleistift2 -1 points a year ago

It’s amazing how you manage to keep up such a double standard in the same comment. Have you been practicing doublethink for a while?

On the one hand you say a human can output this while consuming just a hamburger, on the other hand you say it takes practice (conveniently leaving out the ‘years of’ part).

On the one hand you say “the algorithm” consumes ludicrous amounts of energy, but on the other hand keeping a person alive seems to be free in your world-view. (And no, a homeless person getting just enough to survive does not count as an example of consuming few resources. That’s not a life, that’s misery.)

When AI outputs something for a small audience, that’s a huge waste, but if a human draws something for themselves, that’s somehow adorable?

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Soup 2 points a year ago

It’s not double speak, it’s nuance(or just entirely different things). The hamburger is the energy required to create a quick comic of this level after gaining the skills, the practice is something else you do, and which you do for personal enjoyment so it comes double.

I get free beer at the bluegrass jam because we play for the bar. My instrument cost over a thousand dollars and I was playing for a little under a year when I first went. If your goal was to save money on beer then yea, bad investment, but my goal was to learn an instrument that I enjoy and play with other people. I don’t consider the cost of the instrument and my time when considering the money I save on the drink. Keeping someone alive does a whole lot more for the world and themselves. It’s not free, but they also do more than create one generic comic before throwing off their mortal coil.

For fuck’s sake, I make very good Heroforge minis and, while appreciate the creativity I put into it, I understand that I’m still behind people making custom 3D models or putting pen to paper. At least I can still be proud of my work, unlike this “AI” garbage.

Your entire argument stems from the idea that this comic is somehow adding value to the world. Not only is it stolen and using all these resources but the “artist” doesn’t even get to have any personal satisfaction because it’s just an algorithm and the other “artist” didn’t actually put any effort into it when they just wrote “write a funny comic” into a text field. Nothing of value was created, not even genuine personal satisfaction in a job well done, but so much was lost.

Also to your last sentence, I pity you for not being able to understand the difference.

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usualsuspect191 88 points a year ago

Is that what we're doing now? AI comics for old jokes?

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Comment105 9 points a year ago

Yes.

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TerranFenrir -13 points a year ago

"Stop having fun!!!"

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Siegfried 59 points a year ago

I'm a simple man. I see AI, I downvote.

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klemptor 8 points a year ago

Real question, how can you tell it's AI?

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Nelots 23 points a year ago

Inconsistencies. The bottles are different in every panel. The door is missing after the first panel despite not being any closer to the bar. The scale is way off from the other two in the last panel. The bar fades out of existence in the last panel, and the wall panel is gone. The text being cut off on the edge of the second panel.

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webghost0101 11 points a year ago

Amongst all the other tells pointed out. The most obvious one right now is whats dubbed “AI-sans font”

There is atm only a single generator that can make this quality though. All ai generators have their unique quirks you learn to identity.

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vrutkovs 9 points a year ago

Same yellow-ish pallette

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Siegfried 9 points a year ago

Some things got me suspicious. Some patterns, the art style, the colors are "a strange choosing".. everything is so "overly perfect" except for the letters that feel kind of off... like someone had to unfuck the text. Besides, this is some polished artwork for a random comic with no firm.

But the real give away for me are the bottles

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KingJalopy 8 points a year ago

Bottles in the background change every panel

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TerranFenrir 0 points a year ago

Congratulations

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oplkill -40 points a year ago
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Prunebutt 28 points a year ago

Ratio

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Uebercomplicated 3 points a year ago

Emotio

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ZILtoid1991 11 points a year ago

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pewgar_seemsimandroid 1 point a year ago

i need your reply to ratio

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drkt 0 points a year ago

You couldn't even write that out yourself? You had to post a screenshot of someone else shitposting for you?

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ZILtoid1991 1 point a year ago

Before AI, not everything needed to be custom made for an occasion.

I want to go back to those times.

When people could use a stock photo for an article.

When people could just put a random text over an image they found on the internet and call it a meme.

When people could just put their favorite video game music onto a YouTube video.

When people could just quote something for an occasion.

Probably one of the biggest harm of genAI is making people expect fully custom content for every time, since the AI can do it for the press of a button.

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desertdruid 55 points a year ago

you're lucky my instance host won't let me downvote this AI slop

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SpicyColdFartChamber 24 points a year ago

Don't worry fam, I got you.

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crmsnbleyd 20 points a year ago

Move to a different instance to hate effectively

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myavatar 3 points a year ago

How did you notice? I have to admit, that I don´t see any indicator for it, which worries me...

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Scolding7300 18 points a year ago
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myavatar 4 points a year ago

Thank you (:

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Zoomboingding 11 points a year ago

Inconsistency of the backgrounds is another big hint. A human would have just copy/pasted it.

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desertdruid 7 points a year ago

the font, I have seen a lot of these AI generated memes on socials and the font is almost always the same (it has inconsistencies but the style is the same)

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Prunebutt 5 points a year ago

This is the n-th so-called "AI" created comic that's posted in this style. Alsog as others have noted: inconsistent style/background between the panels.

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abcdqfr -6 points a year ago

You're gonna put your knee out jerking it like that

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ObtuseDoorFrame 28 points a year ago

I am soooooooo disappointed in the hundreds of people upvoting AI slop. Stop it.

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illi 27 points a year ago

HeHeHe

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LifeInMultipleChoice 9 points a year ago

Shit makes me high

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tetris11 21 points a year ago

Sodium walks into a bar pushing a shy electron, and orders two drinks.

"Three drink minimum" says the barman.

"Oh dont worry", says Sodium, "I'm waiting for him to come out of his shell so that I can hook up with someone else."

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tetris11 10 points a year ago

No one likes my well-thought out joke.... 😢

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troyunrau 9 points a year ago

Sodium walks into a bar, orders a drink and tips the bartender an electron. The bartender asks what it is for. Sodium says: "nothing. Just feeling positive today".

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doingthestuff 8 points a year ago

Not only is it AI, but also floating away in disgust is actually a reaction.

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aeronmelon 4 points a year ago

bu dum (no pish)

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daniskarma 2 points a year ago

Things haven't been the same to poor Helium since the new constitution was sign and nobility was stripped out of their privileges.

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Zerush 1 point a year ago

Polonium enter in a bar, and the barkeeper can't say nothing anymore.

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Zerush 1 point a year ago

He don't react to childish voices.

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Flocklesscrow 0 points a year ago

How do we know that's Helium and not He-Man's origin story?

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