I hate digital clutter and regularly clear out old data I don't want anymore. My browser is set to clear everything when I close it. If I find something useful, I bookmark it. Once in a while I'll sort out any unsorted saved bookmarks and make a backup of the cleaned up list.
I'm also similar in real life though. I'm quite minimal and prefer only to have what is useful or meaningful to me.
My digital life and personal life are very similar.
I’m starting to come around to this thought about myself as well. Not only do I also don this instead of a million stressful open tabs, when it’s work adjacent stuff that I’ll probably need to reference back again I take my own notes on the content in Obsidian, snip and paste in screenshots I might want to reference from the web page, and include command examples or code block snippets verbatim, and save the hyperlink in a yaml header parameter. I’ve gone to reference stuff just to find it completely scoured off the internet and The Internet Archive having it being hit or miss.
Everyone is all hype for local LLM’s ingesting and referencing internal/personal knowledge bases in their responses, and I’m over here like “uh I’ll just hit cmd+shift+f thx”.
Glad to see someone like me. If it's important it gets bookmarked or noted down. Browser clears tabs and history on close (used to clear all cookies as well, but that got too cumbersome, now just clears most of them). I also turn off my PC at the end of the day and turn it back on the next day (and not just because I couldn't get hibernation to work), so I always have a clean slate
Right, I’m the same. I bookmark and meticulously organize my bookmarks. I love clearing out my open tabs when I shut down or reboot.
When I switched to Ubuntu I wrestled with whether or not to have the home folder on the desktop (I kept it). On my laptop I run Mint and it’s a completely clean desktop. Same with my iPhone (I archived all my apps).
Why don't y'all just use bookmarks or even just go back thru the homepage sometimes? Managing tons of stale tabs can't be that much easier?
How many can you see even? 20 or maybe 30 if only the icons load?
Keeping this many of anything in working memory is also not possible without forgetting.
Definitely not hundreds so the point about visibility is kind of mute.
Amen!
Tree style tabs and unloaded tabs has it easier than bookmarking imo It's like I can navigate all my bookmarks spatially, activating any of them rather rhan navigating through the ui to see which link was which
If it is important and you don't need it right now, use a bookmark and close that tab. Bookmarks have been around for literal decades now in browsers.
In my experience the bookmark button is essentially the, 'This is interesting and I'll check this out later but never really will' button.
Now, I have a thousand unsorted bookmarks that I am ashamed to look at and half of them are decade old dead links.
Everyone is different, though. A sane person could categorize different bookmarks into relevant sub folders and review/clean them out monthly.
I'm not that person.
How is it any different than a tab, other than the fact that it isn't loaded into your RAM or whatever? Do you really believe this person needs tab # 6546?
Just use a bookmarks bar, and it even looks almost identical.
There should be a 404 checker built into bookmarks. Once a year run a quick scan.
The semi-logical reason that I leave so many tabs open, is that I do need/want the tab now, or in the near future, and keeping it in a tab is sort of like a sticky note to remind myself to do it. It rarely works though and just contributes to a growing sense of anxiety as I'm constantly stared down by a huge row of "to-dos"
Doesn't that only work as a sticky note if you normally only have a few tabs anyway, though? I understand it in principle, the tab is visually right there, but in practice it's the same as putting all the mail in an unsorted stack that you'll totally go through later.
Oh she might be me.
It is with great grievance that I had to put an end to this and install a plugin that closes the oldest one when I get over 15 (Limit Tabs). (Actually, that is only great, unless I'm in a shopping decision frenzy and actually need this.)
People should look into tab groups. Firefox has a tab grouping feature built-in now but this is a plugin that is a bit more feature-full.
So I have tab groups for different dev projects, games, podcasts, shows, music, etc. It reduces the size of each tab group which makes it easier to actually return to the important stuff and close the stuff that doesn't matter.
You can, but I find that if I have the tabs there, I use them or close them. I don't use bookmarks after I make them, so they just acrue. You're right I don't need 7000 open tabs, just like I don't need 7000 bookmarks. Part of the point of tab groups is you can more easily determine what tabs aren't relevant and get rid of them, so you don't wind up with thousands to start with.
If they're open as tabs, even in groups, I'm incentivised to close them when they're no longer relevant. For longer term notes I use a note-taking app that doesn't rely on my browser or computer staying the same. I don't like using a browser for that because it's just not a good tool for it.
tree style tab or sidebery
bonus, with sidebery you also have panels, to add another level of classification. each panel can have it's own pinned tabs.
once i get more tabs than i can easily see on my screen, i start getting stressed out...
Closing a tab requires that I apply immediate effort in deciding that I'm never going down this path ever again till the end of time, and yet I risk future regret if I ever want to reference a closed tab. So much effort for so little gain - tidiness for the sake of it. If you become cool with clutter, then these open tabs are different pieces that help understand and solve bigger picture problems.
Across all my machines and browsers, I think I might have over 10k tabs that I've opened but never closed.
Of course we've heard of bookmarks! Infact we used to use them a whole lot back when we were young. We really started quite organized, but as life changes over the years and decades, bookmarks become irrelevant or lost or unmanageable. You have multiple machines that died, multiple phones lost or abandoned, multiple browsers that you have here and there.
And yet, bookmarking a tab requires that I apply immediate effort in deciding how to organize this tab for eternity and within the framework of the rest of my bookmarks so I'm able to retrieve this bookmark should I need to in the future and yet keep the entire collection relatively clutter free. So again it's all so much effort for not much gain.
Lastly, I still need to clarify an important point is that keeping a tab open is like keeping it open in your head - like a neuron in your brain holding that important information should you need it. It's like a jigsaw piece waiting for the rest of the pieces while you are constantly problem solving and not wasting time in pointless organization. One day those those jigsaw puzzles will click together. Trust me, I'm a professional problem solver ;)
There's History.
What I can say for sure is that I have not seen 7500 pages on the internet in the past two years that I want to visit again.
This is relatable even if I don't have this specific issue, but I am curious what people are saving.on their emotional support tab groups.
Why do these people not use bookmarks?
I sometimes have like 20 tabs open, but half of them are pinned which I use most of the time, and the rest is current stuff that I close when I am done with them.
My browser deletes open tabs when closing. Otherwise I would drown in chaos.
Bookmarking and sorting 7k tabs sounds awful.
There are three types of tab,
1: tabs I absolutely need to see again and know I never will if I bookmark them, because I never go into my bookmarks.
2: tabs that don't need to be bookmarked at all because I never need to see them again I just got distracted and didn't close them or thought I'd be interested in them later but then wasn't.
3: tabs pertaining to one of the seven projects I'm currently actively working on simultaneously.
Bookmarks solve nothing.
I don't think I have ADHD but oftentimes I forget that the tab I need is already open. There is that feature that switches you to a tab if it matches your search query in the browser bar, but somehow I keep searching in ways that circumvent that feature ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I have 3 firefox windows open at all times each with 30 to 50 tabs and i save them regularly in the tabs library so that i can re-open them whenever i want. There's a re-open all tabs button when clicking on a tabs folder.
There is an extension to automatically backup open tabs and restore them for the hardcore tabbers.
Now there is an actually good use for AI. Have a program that bookmarks your tabs and sorts them into subfolders automatically.
You do have to click on the browser extension, or share to the app on mobile, but Karakeep does that.
If that's in your workflow just use sessionmanager extension (but don't hoard them, it changes your fingerprint)
This is me with unsaved files in VS Code. Every so often I'd go through and try to clean them up but it stayed around 150 files. I got a new laptop a couple of weeks ago and I've slowly crawled back up to about 15-20.
It was too much of a mess and I had to resort to using different windows in the end (but I have to be careful when I have to close Firefox and select quit from the menu instead of using the title bar button)
Yeah, "restore session" will restore whatever you had open the last time you quit Firefox. Closing windows one by one will only quit at the last window, so that's what it restores. If you want to close Firefox and have it restore multiple windows, you have to use "Quit".
Yeah. If you close an individual window you’ll lose it, but you can find it again in the history menu (from the re-open closed window submenu)
If you use the quit command from the global menu (on any window) they’ll get restored next time when you launch it.
I have like 30 tabs which i always force quit the app to preserve
If you quit normally and press ctrl + shift + T upon startup, the session is automatically restored.
Ctrl + shift + T is also useful to bring back tabs you accidentally closed. It brings them back in the order that you closed them (you can use the shortcut multiple times)
Thank you soo much
Browsers have a restore previous session function. https://support.mozilla.org/...
Could not relate more 🤚🙂↕️
I'd wager that if I actually kept every tab I opened to get to later since like, StumbleUpon, and actually resolved to get to them, that'd be it for me. I would probably have enough content to occupy the rest of my natural life without any leftover free time.
thanks for using Leebra!
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This is one thing that makes me think mine is AuDHD, not just ADHD (waiting for an autism assessment now).
I occasionally pin important tabs, or use Tab Groups, but mostly I obsessively sort everything into Collections and start fresh every time. I can't stand digital clutter. Messy Desktops drive me mad, too.
And yet my IRL world is disorganisation and chaos. 😬
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