Corn-Belt Votes Trump. Trump pressures Coke for sugar-based Coke in US.

a year ago by ReedReads to c/leopardsatemyface

Coca-Cola's move comes a week after the White House issued a statement by President Trump saying he had been talking to the soft drink giant about using cane sugar rather than high-fructose corn syrup in its signature drink.

Corn Refiners Association President and CEO John Bode predicts that an increase in using U.S. cane sugar will lead to a rise in foreign cane sugar imports.

Bode said in a statement to NPR, "Replacing high fructose corn syrup with cane sugar would cost thousands of American food manufacturing jobs, depress farm income, and expand the trade deficit."

Agrajag 55 points a year ago

I don't think a lot of legal food can be considered poison, but both HFCS and sugar soda are really close. Also any other drink with heaps of sugar dumped into it. If you had to pour 40-50g of sugar into your glass you would likely not do it, but when someone else does it for you, you don't have to think about it.

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SpikesOtherDog 14 points a year ago

I would have thought people would stop drinking Coke if they had to sweeten it themselves, but I used to make Kool-Aid with 4floz (120ml) per half gallon (about 2 liters).

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Quibblekrust 2 points a year ago

You measure sugar in fluid ounces?

A packet of Kool-Aid actually calls for a full cup of sugar (8 floz). So it's even more nutritious than you thought!

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SpikesOtherDog 1 point a year ago

I was going to say half cup, but ounces seemed more relatable in the moment.

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Mac 11 points a year ago

Alcohol is but we're cool with it, apparently. lol

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Agrajag 6 points a year ago

We at least don't serve that to children generally.

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Mac 3 points a year ago

Absolutely cannot disagree with this. Child obesity is a major issue and sugar is a major factor.

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epicstove 2 points a year ago

At least it had the historic use of preserving food back before we had refrigeration.

And before we learned to distill alcohol allowing us to feel the effects after far fewer drinks.

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kikutwo 27 points a year ago

Florida is a huge sugar producer. The head office of Florida Crystals was in the same building in West Palm at the end of Clematis where I worked. The CEO would park his Ferrari FF in the cul de sac. This is nearly within view of Mar a Lago.

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LifeInMultipleChoice 24 points a year ago

Well in 20 years Florida managed to lose about 90% of its oranges supposedly, and the Tomatoes were down 27% from 2023-2024.

Florida and California were 2 huge growers when it came to fruit.. at this point though any practices made to attempt to save their growers would probably be hit with issues coming from Trump/Desantis pushing to arrest all the people working there.

Throw in reduced tourism and I imagine Florida may see some more struggles in the near future

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kikutwo 9 points a year ago

Definitely, add in the soaring property taxes and HOA fees and the insurance debacle also. Happy I got out of there in 2018.

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LifeInMultipleChoice 6 points a year ago

Anyone who thought deporting construction workers was going to do anything other than raise construction and therefore home owners insurance costs was a fool.

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Whats_your_reasoning 5 points a year ago

Don’t forget about rising sea levels and flooding. Florida’s in for a tough future.

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phoenixarise 1 point a year ago

Couldn’t happen to a better state. Fuck them.

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garbagebagel 5 points a year ago

But who will farm all the sugar when the illegals [sic] are in alligator whatever

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TallonMetroid 4 points a year ago

Easy, let them out of Alligator Auschwitz on work release. Now you don't even have to pay them! (I wish /s)

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PodPerson 21 points a year ago

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Horsey 14 points a year ago

So the flip side to this argument is that high fructose corn syrup is chosen by Coca Cola to prop up corn producers…?

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HasturInYellow 12 points a year ago

Same as it ever was. Corporate socialism.

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Pistcow 12 points a year ago

So will we have to call it Mexican-American Coke?

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Witchfire 7 points a year ago

Canadian coke is also sugar based so really you can just call it "modern coke"

Gonna be super fun with all y'all's tarrifs tho

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Rhynoplaz 9 points a year ago

But I think it was originally sugar and they switched to HFCS because corn subsidies.

If so, then this is old coke.

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Pistcow 5 points a year ago

Old-New Coke

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Bwaz 2 points a year ago

Dr. Epstein

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garbagebagel 1 point a year ago

Omg is that why I've never tasted the difference? Like, I can taste the difference from a glass bottle obviously, but I've never noticed anything different in coke when I go down to Mexico.

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bcgm3 1 point a year ago

"The Coke of America," naturally.

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Fontasia 8 points a year ago

I know this was a completely empty thing and Trump will never do anything about it, but who was this really for? Does this threat even make any sense?

I want you to stop talking about Epstein so I'm going to anger a very specific part of my base? The people angry about Epstein are his chronically online base. I don't imagine the corn farmer base even is aware of most of his online presence, let alone this outrage. Corn farmers being told the president is taking away a source of revenue are going to attend town halls, going to call and yell at their local elected officials, not tell people on Twitter to stop talking about Epstein because it's going to crush their livelihoods.

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100 7 points a year ago

dont drink calories

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GuyFawkes 7 points a year ago

Don’t drink non-alcoholic calories

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burgerpocalyse 5 points a year ago
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shalafi 2 points a year ago

Only time in my life I got fat was from making my afternoon coffee loaded with 1/4 cup of sugar every day.

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blackbrook 1 point a year ago

1/4 cup in a single cup of coffee? or was that for like a whole pot?

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moakley 6 points a year ago

It sounds like Coke is just going to add Mexican Coke to their lineup of sodas, not like they're going to stop producing HFCS Coke.

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jawa21 6 points a year ago
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FurryMemesAccount 6 points a year ago

What about sugarbeets? Can't the US grow those?

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ikidd 3 points a year ago

I'm sure they could, hell, we grow them in Canada, that's what Roger's Sugar uses. Probably not as profitable as corn, especially with the biofuel subsidies.

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zalgotext 1 point a year ago

Yes, sugar beets used to be a staple in some areas I've lived in the Midwest, they'll definitely grow here

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lmmarsano 4 points a year ago

Fuck HFCS & the US sugar program: they're the textbook example of US protectionist policies that cost the US more than the benefits

The Department of Agriculture administers the U.S. sugar program to support domestic sugar production through tools such as limiting the supply of sugar.

The program creates higher sugar prices, which cost consumers more than producers benefit, at an annual cost to the economy of around $1 billion per year.

and reduce employment in industries dependent on sugar while fucking everyone's health with shittier HFCS.

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ScoffingLizard 3 points a year ago

But but but, we're making America healthy again.

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Kolanaki 2 points a year ago

"Why are you putting sugar in dime bags?"

"Its sugar-based coke!"

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blackbrook 2 points a year ago

For some icing on the cake, the sucrose of cane sugar very quickly breaks down in coke into glucose and fructose, in more or less same proportions as in HFCS, so it kind of doesn't change anything but the price, and which growers are happy.

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ryven 11 points a year ago

I swear the cane sugar Dr. Pepper tastes different from the HFCS kind. Maybe it really is possible to differentiate 50-50 glucose-fructose from 45-55 glucose-fructose? Or maybe the corn syrup carries other flavor molecules?

Or maybe there are other differences in the recipe.

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VindictiveJudge 3 points a year ago

Pepsi's Throwback stuff definitely has a different texture to it compared to regular, at the least. Less syrupy, more crisp. Henry Weinhard's sodas also use cane sugar and are similarly crisp, but they market themselves as a high quality brand anyway.

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TrickDacy 10 points a year ago

Trump is a piece of shit regardless but cane sugar soda tastes undeniably better

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moakley 1 point a year ago

Hard disagree. I prefer HFCS Coke. It's a personal preference.

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TrickDacy 7 points a year ago

You're certainly the first person I've heard that from

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moakley 1 point a year ago

But seriously, how often does it come up? And how many people can't tell the difference but just "know" that Mexican Coke is supposed to be better?

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jacksilver 2 points a year ago

I like how someone downvoted your for this opinion.

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frazw 1 point a year ago

Ignoring the politics of this... American coke tastes like shit. That hfcs flavour is way inferior to sucrose flavour.

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felixwhynot 1 point a year ago

Such a weird gambit. He’s gonna make Coke in the USA use the Mexican Coke recipe??

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GuyFawkes 2 points a year ago

Well Mexican Coke is so much more expensive now, you know, with the tariffs.

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