When something still uses micro USB in 2025

a year ago by Iced Raktajino to c/mildlyinfuriating

Ordered a set of rechargeable AA batteries and charger. They're well reviewed and a decent brand. Specifically wanted the charger since it has USB input rather than 120v so I could top the batteries off from my laptop / power bank as they'll be used for my wireless KB/mouse. The product description only said "USB input" and didn't specify what flavor. Being 2025, you expect USB-C.

Received them today, and they use micro USB input. Now I have to keep yet another cable in my bag. Day mildly ruined.

psx_crab 30 points a year ago

Might be because the tech(charger) itself isn't updated for years. I still get micro sometime for some cheapo stuff, that's why i always have the cable on standby.

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IcedRaktajino 10 points a year ago

Probably, yeah. I was similarly disappointed when my Kobo came with micro USB, but considering I love everything else about it, I gave it a pass. That, and I typically only have to charge it once a month.

I've got USB-C to micro adapters, but I've only got 4 of them and either keep losing them or they get semi-permanently installed to a Raspberry Pi or something.

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Onomatopoeia 7 points a year ago

Yep.

Re-engineering is expensive, and so is the licensing of USB-C (along with the port cost, and revamping the manufacturing process, and sourcing, etc).

The device would no longer be inexpensive, and it has no need of USB-C capability.

There's lots more involved than just the port connector itself.

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walden 4 points a year ago

If it's just for charging, a USB-C port is just a different part. The charge controller and everything can stay "dumb" if it's a low power device.

The USB-C spec is complicated and to take full advantage of it is expensive like you said, but I think just using a modern form factor isn't expensive.

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psx_crab 3 points a year ago

and so is the licensing of USB-C

Holup, they need licence to use it in their device?

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11111one11111 2 points a year ago

Hot damn that shit don't come cheap either!

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IcedRaktajino 2 points a year ago

That's just for a vendor ID though for data, right? For basic 5V power (non-Power Delivery), they'd just need the socket and a couple of resistors. I've got some cheap-ass devices with USB-C, and even disposable vapes (yuck) have USB-C for charging.

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CmdrShepard49 1 point a year ago

Considering $10 disposable vapes all come with USB-C, I can't imagine the cost difference is really that great.

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DaCrazyJamez 2 points a year ago

I keep one of those little adapters...dont need a whole cable.

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Multiplexer 2 points a year ago

Also I have the impression that lifetime of products has increased again over the past decade or so.
Still rocking my Sony ebook reader from 2011 and a Samsung Galaxy S5 as backup and Whatsapp handy. Both are using Micro USB, so I have a small cable with me anyways.

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Timecircleline 23 points a year ago

Whether or not a product is usb c is make or break for me now. I bought a more expensive mouse to not have to carry around another charger.

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IcedRaktajino 8 points a year ago

Same. I went all-in on USB-C about 3 years ago. My house is still cluttered with cables, but at least I can grab any one of them and charge any device.

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k0e3 8 points a year ago

What pisses me off is how even usb type c cables have different types like power only, only certain amount of wattage, hdmi but not 4k, etc., and I can't keep track of it all.

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IcedRaktajino 3 points a year ago

Yeah, that's annoying for sure. I just bought a handful of cables of known specs that "do it all" and it's been pretty smooth sailing.

They're all 3ft or 6ft, 100 watt e-marked, and video capable The only one that's not is my 10ft one - it's "only" 100 watt rated but doesn't do video and is limited to USB 2.0 speeds. I only use that one as a power cord for my laptop, though, and it's bright red so it's not like I'm gonna mistake it for anything else.

So far, I haven't had a need to upgrade anything to the new 240 W spec since I rarely use more than 65W.

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Hozerkiller 15 points a year ago

Easy negative review and a return for me in that situation. If they cut corners on the charging port where else did they cut corners?

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Entitle9294 15 points a year ago

Somewhat unrelated, but I recently realized, my micro USB devices have never "worn out" the way my USB-C devices have. I remember having to rig things up, just to get one last charge into my USB-C phone that stopped holding a connection to the charging cable. It actually made me nostalgic for the "plug it in, flip it, plug it in again, realize you still don't have it and flip it again" approach 🤷

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brygphilomena 11 points a year ago

Usb-c is really susceptible to dust building up in the port, especially on phones on pockets. They often need to be scrapped out to get rid of the lint.

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SkaveRat 3 points a year ago

Removing the phone's belly button lint is oddly satisfying

A real throwback to cleaning ball mice

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quokka1 1 point a year ago

@SkaveRat @brygphilomena Do you keep it in a bag like me so I can one day commission a knitted cardigan?

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XeroxCool 8 points a year ago

I've had many micro cables get broken, requiring the perfect angle, but never the ports themselves as far as I could tell. I've never had a C port fail either and rarely have cable issues. However, any time the C ports require a specific angle to work, I have found they're packed with lint. It goes with the "click" getting weak as well. Paperclip, Sim card pick, compressed air, a good cheek puff, usually all good after.

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quokka1 2 points a year ago

@XeroxCool @Entitle9294 I often read of people claiming to have broken many ports and/or cables. I can't understand how they do it.

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XeroxCool 3 points a year ago

Micro was weak and largely people's first experience with frequent-use plugging. Cheap cables don't last long. Car use is abusive, even using the phone while charging is harsh. Moving the phone by the wire. Hard cable angles to keep the phone upright in stands, cup holders, cups, whatever. Rolling the cable tight for storage or travel. Pulling by the cable to unplug instead of by the head. Accidentally tripping on cables or otherwise yanking them. It's death by 1,000 papercuts for the cable. Shit happens.

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AlphaOmega 4 points a year ago

Hmm interesting. I work with a bunch of older machines that use micro USB. They are all going on 10 years without a broken port. But my phones USB C port broke recently at about 4 years in.

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some_random_nick 4 points a year ago

My Pixel is going strong for 4 years and the USB-C port works like on day one. Comparing that to my old Samsung J7 which I also had for 4 years, that port struggled 3 years in. I think most of my microUSB devices had worn out ports after a year or two of charging.

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Entitle9294 4 points a year ago

My pixel was the USB-C phone that I was referencing above 🙈

I'm glad it works for at least some folks :)

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Tempus_Fugit 2 points a year ago

Huh my Pixel 7 no longer holds a cable at all and it's not due to lint. I'm far from the only one too. I see folks complain about the port on them all the time.

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some_random_nick 1 point a year ago

Strange. I have a 4a 5G model. Had some issues with lint 2 or 3 times, but everything else is fine. Might be just manufacturers skimming on quality as usual.

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Tempus_Fugit 1 point a year ago

Same here. My current phone and a few other devices don't hold a type C connector anymore. I never had that issue with micro B.

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ohshit604 1 point a year ago

Micro B port broke on my JBL charge 3, de-soldered and replaced, works like new.

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dan1101 11 points a year ago

I just bought an ONN 4K steaming box and the charger is micro USB. Short cable too. Copper is expensive on a $20 box I guess.

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dubyakay 9 points a year ago

What does it steam? Buns? What does the 4K stand for?

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Proprietary_Blend 4 points a year ago

Ham steamer

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samus12345 3 points a year ago

Old family recipe.

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corsicanguppy 2 points a year ago

It's a typo. Bring a fork for the steamy buns. Fork those buns. For-k.

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FQQD 7 points a year ago

mini usb is superior

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IcedRaktajino 7 points a year ago

I could not disagree more lol. Everyone likes to shit on micro USB, but of all the form factor I've used over the years. the mini connectors always seemed to wear out the fastest.

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FQQD 8 points a year ago

okay yeah you're right. USB B for the win

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Mountaineer 5 points a year ago

It's commentary like this that leads to so much industrial equipment (printers, scales, barcode readers, PLCs etc) still having RS-232 on them.

And dammit, you're right, that stone age shit just works.

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brisk 2 points a year ago

Micro USB also has an A and B connector

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FQQD 1 point a year ago

whatt? that sounds so cursed. was it just not widely adopted??

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MonkderVierte 2 points a year ago

If USB-A and micro USB had a child.

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Dagnet 7 points a year ago

There is a type of magnetic usb cable that is easy to switch between different USB standards, you can even have the micro USB tip always connected and just connect the cable when you need to, might be a good solution? That way you can have one cable and just buy a bunch of "tips"

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skuzz 6 points a year ago

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IcedRaktajino 2 points a year ago

I have 4 of them, but they keep getting lost or semi-permanently attached to Raspberry Pis or ESP-32 boards. The rest of my micro-usb devices have largely been phased out.

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CmdrShepard49 2 points a year ago

If you want to talk about shitty USB standards, how about the Pi5 which requires 5V5A USB-C to run correctly, a standard that doesn't exist anywhere else.

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TrueStoryBob 5 points a year ago

Ugh... just bought some new Bluetooth headphones and my god i wish they'd let these little chargers just die already.

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walden 5 points a year ago

Yeah, that stinks.

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shalafi 4 points a year ago

I have a theory that somewhere in China there's a warehouse with a trillion of these damned things. Want to make a cheap product? Grab a truckload!

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Magister 4 points a year ago

I am using this charger https://www.liitokala.com.cn/... it is a few $ on AliExpress, it is USB-C and can basically charge anything, it exists in 1 channel or 4 channels too. For AA batteries I am using IKEA LADDA, made in Japan, by Eneloop.

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Lumidaub 4 points a year ago

My headphones are at least 10 years old (August EP650), I'd highly recommend them if they didn't use micro USB. So does my portable mini-fan. Life ruined.

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tal 2 points a year ago

https://www.amazon.com/...

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Lumidaub 1 point a year ago

I appreciate the thought but I can manage and I'd rather avoid buying even more shit that'll be entirely obsolete in a few years. :)

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thisbenzingring 4 points a year ago

get a cable with a dongle that is tethered to it, then you only have one cable with a silly thing hanging on it

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IcedRaktajino 2 points a year ago

I have C->Micro adapters though they aren't tethered. I'm just spoiled by only carrying C cables in my bag and being able to just grab any cable without looking or digging (they're all 100W and video-capable except my 10ft one).

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MonkderVierte 3 points a year ago

Plug USB-C in and return it as defective.

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Treczoks 1 point a year ago

I frequently have to deal with USB C, B mini and B micro, and assume that this will be for quite some time. Most USB using modules on the net still have B-style connectors.

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thesohoriots -3 points a year ago

You could be a boomer and just mash that gas station USB-C cable into the micro USB port anyway. “They just don’t make these new cables work like they used to.”

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Professorozone -3 points a year ago

Why are people so against this old standard?I have lots of perfectly useful older equipment around that uses it. Why would I just throw away old power banks and buy new ones just because it uses a different cord? I don't get it.

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yyprum 7 points a year ago

No one is talking of old things that still work. Op just bought something new that still uses micro USB though, that would ruin my day too tbh.

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Professorozone 0 points a year ago

Sounds like a real first world problem.

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yyprum 3 points a year ago

Yeah, well, we are in mildly infuriating, I don't expect to find big issues here... No one will come here to say "I can't afford a house/food" or "I lost my job and will loose my house! It is mildly infuriating"

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Professorozone 2 points a year ago

Ok, that's a good point. Probably the best one so far.

I guess my point was just that I've seen this hate in more than one place.

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Hozerkiller 1 point a year ago

It's not a first world problem It's a capitalism problem. They probably bought a shit load of micro usb ports for dirt cheap to save money cause nobody wants to buy them for their products in 2025.

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Psythik 2 points a year ago

Because the cables are difficult to plug in and break constantly. What was most frustrating about the standard was that the previous one, mini-USB, was considerably better by an order of magnitude. The connection wasn't flimsy as hell, for one.

The robustness of USB-C reminds me of mini-, which is the main reason why prefer it. I also appreciate that you can plug the cable in any direction and it'll always work, every time. You can even plug it in reverse and it will still work, something we've never had in a USB cable before. Micro- sucks so much ass that I can't believe that anyone would prefer it to over mini- or -C.

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Professorozone 0 points a year ago

I prefer the new standard too, but are you actually getting rid of perfectly functioning old stuff because of the connector?

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IcedRaktajino 2 points a year ago

No. I'm not, and I don't think anyone in the comments that I've read are saying that either. Geesh!

Stuff ages out. Stuff breaks. Old stuff gets relegated to a drawer or re-purposed. The older stuff doesn't necessarily get thrown away, but it's also not something I carry around daily, either.

All that (most?) people here are saying is that when you do buy something new, there's an expectation that it use the current standard.

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Professorozone 2 points a year ago

I would agree with that. I just don't have the level of hate for the old standard that everyone else seems to have. But as it was pointed out, this IS mildly infuriating so I can see that. My biggest complaint with it is that it is very hard to see which way it goes since the taper is subtle, especially if it's dark.

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samus12345 2 points a year ago

Because OP wanted to plug the charger into their laptop. When's the last time you saw a laptop with a micro USB port?

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offspec 1 point a year ago

Is this bait?

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Professorozone 1 point a year ago

No. As I stated,I prefer the new standard but the hate for the old standard seems a little over the top to me.

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offspec 1 point a year ago

Laptops don't have micro b ports, micro b is just a form factor of one end of s USB cable. You can have a-> micro b or a-> c.

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IcedRaktajino 1 point a year ago

I"m not so much against it (it was good enough in its time). I've just come to appreciate the mostly "universal" aspect of USB-C and being able to grab any cable from my bag without looking or digging and have it be the correct cable (all my cables are 100W and video capable, so no matter my need, it will be the right cable).

In a lot of ways, I now see anything with less than USB-C as being like the old, oddly-sized barrel jack connectors. Yeah, it works. Yeah, it's fine. But it's also now an oddball cable I have to carry around.

I'm old and resist the future in a lot of ways, but USB-C isn't one of them lol.

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Professorozone 1 point a year ago

Well I like the new standard as well but the old one doesn't feel that old to me. It strikes me as another symptom of a throw away society that no one else has any older items anymore since I have so many. I have a few power banks of different sizes, Bluetooth speakers, a bore scope,a couple of action cameras and a couple of pieces of test equipment. They haven't died. I just assumed most other people still had some things too. But the prevalence of people hating on the older standard leads me to believe people just throw away working items because only because they performed then as old.

Anyway, that's the basis for my comment. You do you.

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CmdrShepard49 1 point a year ago

You could make the opposite argument here too. If OP no longer has any USB micro devices due to them phasing out over the last 10+ years (most portable consumer electronics wear out over that time), they'll now need to consume more by buying extra cables rather than reusing what they already have.

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dickalan -2 points a year ago

My brother work on your information literacy and seeing the forest from the trees because this is just like the most cluless response I’ve ever read

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