Federal agents arrest firefighters working on WA wildfire

a year ago by return2ozma to c/news

return2ozma 108 points a year ago

path: 0 19075806, hotness: undefined, score: 108, children: 0
Chozo 103 points a year ago

Federal policy under President Joe Biden’s administration stated that without “exigent circumstances” agents would not conduct their operations at natural disaster or emergency sites. Whether that policy remains in place, however, remains unclear.

C'mon. What do you think?

path: 0 19076109, hotness: undefined, score: 103, children: 0
Darkassassin07 71 points a year ago

Be a real shame if Federal buildings in Washington started to catch fire and fire departments refused to attend.

path: 0 19077395, hotness: undefined, score: 71, children: 2
neidu3 27 points a year ago

"Jenkins, grab my coat, we're doing another 1812 and setting their fucking palace on fire!"

path: 0 19077395 19081411, hotness: undefined, score: 27, children: 1
Knoxvomica 19 points a year ago

Canadian Militia Intensifies

path: 0 19077395 19081411 19082444, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 0
TammyTobacco 67 points a year ago

People need to start murdering ICE agents.

path: 0 19081981, hotness: undefined, score: 67, children: 6
mrgoosmoos 58 points a year ago

Nice to see this opinion out in the open

I don't get what so controversial about saying that Nazis should be killed. that shouldn't be a controversial statement. that should be the default belief of every person and company.

path: 0 19081981 19082502, hotness: undefined, score: 58, children: 0
CeruleanRuin 35 points a year ago

They are undeniably a domestic enemy and a clear and present threat to the public good. "Murder" is not an appropriate term for it.

path: 0 19081981 19083718, hotness: undefined, score: 35, children: 3
SabinStargem 12 points a year ago

Eradication. They are a pestilence, like locusts.

path: 0 19081981 19083718 19084955, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 0
Typhoon 5 points a year ago

"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law"

-Napoleon

Also Trump

path: 0 19081981 19083718 19092758, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
agamemnonymous 1 point a year ago

Self defense

path: 0 19081981 19083718 19093032, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
UnderpantsWeevil 2 points a year ago

:-/

You leading this charge from the front or taking up command in the rear?

path: 0 19081981 19093446, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
vaultdweller013 65 points a year ago

Sounds like a bunch of cops must be fed to the inferno.

path: 0 19076280, hotness: undefined, score: 65, children: 2
mitch 11 points a year ago

I feel like it's an eventuality that during a forest fire, misinformed hunters will just be firing rifles at firefighters trying to save their land.

checks notes

Wait... That already happened?

path: 0 19076280 19082359, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 1
AlfredoJohn 10 points a year ago

The article reads more that someone who was upset they got rejected when applying to become a firefighter broke started a fire on purpose to lure out the fire department and then just shot them up when they arrived and committed suicide before capture. Its just a completely fucking wild ride that story.

path: 0 19076280 19082359 19083460, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
scintilla 59 points a year ago

I think if you are working for the federal government and not actively sabotaging them you are at least complicit.

path: 0 19076890, hotness: undefined, score: 59, children: 5
arrow74 17 points a year ago

Depends on what you do.

Working at a VA hospital and providing medical care to veterans. Probably doesn't count.

Working at the NPS trying to keep a park running and its resources protected. Probably doesn't count.

I think the difference is employees that are trying to continue their civic duties versus those trying to further often illegal executive orders.

path: 0 19076890 19081868, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 4
BarneyPiccolo 1 point a year ago

If you work in a MAGA-compromised agency, make sure to come to work sick and wipe your saliva on the doorknobs and keyboards of management and other MAGA lackeys.

path: 0 19076890 19081868 19083389, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 3
LemUser 15 points a year ago

I know a woman who tested positive for Covid back during the lockdown days and she went into a survival/gun shop which sported dozens of Trump signs out front and no one was wearing masks inside so she took hers off and fondled everything. After getting advice she shook the owner's hand. The place is now closed and I often wondered why.

path: 0 19076890 19081868 19083389 19084829, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 2
BarneyPiccolo 6 points a year ago

She only gave them what they were demanding. They don't want masks or lockdowns? Indulge them.

path: 0 19076890 19081868 19083389 19084829 19086684, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
arrow74 5 points a year ago

Chaotic good

path: 0 19076890 19081868 19083389 19084829 19088506, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
gedaliyah 52 points a year ago

Are all these ICE agents planning to die in the next 3 years? The next president is likely to unseal all these records and prosecute them for their crimes.

That's way more likely than someone in power facing accountability at least. History show that.

path: 0 19077994, hotness: undefined, score: 52, children: 11
Guidy 35 points a year ago

It’s like jan 6 when everyone recorded themselves for posterity, they plan on showing it to their grandchildren one day. They’re not sorry. And those fucks got away with it then, soooooo….

path: 0 19077994 19081393, hotness: undefined, score: 35, children: 0
Zaktor 32 points a year ago

And none of the Nazis, on their way out to a wildfire zone to do a random ID check on firefighters (it wasn't even targeted) had it bubble up in their smooth brains that maybe they were the baddies.

path: 0 19077994 19078774, hotness: undefined, score: 32, children: 1
mrgoosmoos 9 points a year ago

and the ones that did were proud of it

path: 0 19077994 19078774 19082511, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
BarneyPiccolo 31 points a year ago

The reprehensible behavior of the entire MAGA administration is a clear demonstration that they don't expect there to be a "next" president.

path: 0 19077994 19083332, hotness: undefined, score: 31, children: 1
CileTheSane 8 points a year ago

The reprehensible behavior of the entire MAGA administration is a clear demonstration that they don't expect there to be a "next" president.

And if people plan on waiting 3 years to do anything about the current adminstration there won't be.

path: 0 19077994 19083332 19084933, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
Cataphract 30 points a year ago

I probably believed that before George Bush Sr. and Jr. (middle east, etc), now I don't think anyone will actually be held accountable unless it's a U.N. styled group but even then the people who are "useful" won't see any type of repercussions (like operation paperclip with ww2).

path: 0 19077994 19080330, hotness: undefined, score: 30, children: 2
SabinStargem 4 points a year ago

Honestly, I am doubting the usefulness of MAGAT "experts", if Big Balls, RFK, and the rest are any indication. Unfortunately, a bunch of the bastards are wealthy, and harsh sentences are for the peasantry.

path: 0 19077994 19080330 19085031, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 1
thedruid 4 points a year ago

Then take their wealth.

path: 0 19077994 19080330 19085031 19088193, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
SabinStargem 6 points a year ago

Less than 200 Nazis were executed by the Nuremberg trials. It would be awesome if every member of ICE and friends danced at the end of a rope, but I am doubtful.

path: 0 19077994 19085014, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
ayyy 4 points a year ago

You think these fucks are keeping records?

path: 0 19077994 19091844, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
UnderpantsWeevil 3 points a year ago

Are all these ICE agents planning to die in the next 3 years?

A lot of these guys have little to no formal education and both ears full of AM Talk Radio every day. They're being offered six figures to do the kind of thuggish brutality they were eager to engage in for free under prior administrations.

The next president is likely to unseal all these records and prosecute them for their crimes.

Kinda like they prosecuted a third of the J6ers? Lightly and in a manner that made them into celebrity martyrs rather than pariahs?

FFS, Jake Lang is running for Congress.

path: 0 19077994 19093503, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
60d 50 points a year ago

Your tax dollars at work.

path: 0 19076178, hotness: undefined, score: 50, children: 0
Deceptichum 46 points a year ago
path: 0 19077405, hotness: undefined, score: 46, children: 3
Evil_Shrubbery 36 points a year ago

No, def not in that way.

In some other ways however ...

path: 0 19077405 19077866, hotness: undefined, score: 36, children: 1
Zahille7 13 points a year ago

Damn, we got ladies in these things now?! Hell yes!

path: 0 19077405 19077866 19082965, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 0
PunnyName 4 points a year ago path: 0 19077405 19077726, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
mrgoosmoos 37 points a year ago

sounds like firefighters across the country should just go on a general strike. let it burn

yeah lots of innocent people will die. maybe that's what it takes for america to get their shit together, seeing as how nothing significant enough has happened yet

although I'd be happy just to see selective non-response of fires in republican areas/buildings

path: 0 19082537, hotness: undefined, score: 37, children: 2
Revan343 10 points a year ago

I love firefighter strikes. Tear gas cannisters are no match for a firehose

path: 0 19082537 19083945, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
FirstCircle 1 point a year ago

Ha, kind of a "quiet quitting!"

path: 0 19082537 19091622, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
SirMaple__ 33 points a year ago

Don't mess with firefighters or emergency medical personnel.

path: 0 19085733, hotness: undefined, score: 33, children: 0
Treczoks 27 points a year ago

So they don't want people to work on farms and in hospitality anymore for fear of being arrested.

And now firefighters, for fucks sake? Are they mad?

path: 0 19083561, hotness: undefined, score: 27, children: 2
CileTheSane 18 points a year ago

These are people who do not believe there will ever be consequences for their actions.

path: 0 19083561 19084987, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 1
RagingRobot 11 points a year ago

For trump that has been true his whole life. So are they wrong to think that?

I hope so but I'm very worried

path: 0 19083561 19084987 19088339, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 0
manxu 21 points a year ago

Oh, this sounds race-based, as border patrol is the agency doing the arresting.

path: 0 19076685, hotness: undefined, score: 21, children: 1
discosnails 8 points a year ago

I've worked with a ton of these guys, they're most often on H2A visas from Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala... And some of the companies that contract them are... Not diligent about paperwork. Sucks for the guys. And beyond that, forestry work and wildland firefighting will absolutely grind to a halt without them in the west and southeast. Absolutely kneecapping all efforts to reduce fuels and replant burns/clear-cuts. There's an argument to be made that the use of these crews is essentially forced labor anyway (pretty crazy economic gradient from here to their home countries) but all the guys I worked with were stoked to have the job and returned year after year. Anyhow I was definitely waiting for this to happen, and it's going to result in more dysfunction in the forest industry.

path: 0 19076685 19085679, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
gravitas_deficiency 20 points a year ago

If anyone here is a firefighter: refuse to respond to fire incidents at ICE or CBP facilities

path: 0 19077715, hotness: undefined, score: 20, children: 2
Zaktor 28 points a year ago

Eh, not the detention centers please. A whole lot of innocent people there who don't have the option to just make an orderly exit. Fuck their offices and vehicles though.

path: 0 19077715 19078709, hotness: undefined, score: 28, children: 1
burntbacon 1 point a year ago

Fuck their offices and vehicles though

Cue up the queue of comments: "not like that!"

edit: very nsfw

path: 0 19077715 19078709 19093068, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
heyWhatsay 19 points a year ago

The three steps needed now:

  1. Defund the police
  2. Destroy ICE
  3. Support and fund firefighters
path: 0 19083942, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 1
burntbacon 2 points a year ago

I think we can just combine the first two steps. Perhaps switch the first words in their order.

path: 0 19083942 19093008, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
SoloCritical 17 points a year ago

Plot twist: The Agents started the fire.

path: 0 19082320, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 0
Tollana1234567 15 points a year ago

i would turn the hose on them.

path: 0 19077706, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 1
Zaktor 23 points a year ago

Yeah, no one's ever going to be just perfectly ready to go when suddenly their mundane work day gets interrupted by Nazis, but I think a bunch of firefighters getting one of their comrades kidnapped would be a situation where you could get a bit wild and suffer few long term consequences. "CBP arrests squad of firefighters in an active wildfire zone for interfering with them kidnapping one of their members" is the sort of thing that gets attention and dropped charges.

path: 0 19077706 19078742, hotness: undefined, score: 23, children: 0
ExLisper 7 points a year ago

I just realized Washington is the only state named after a president. How isn't Trump jealous? I think they should grant Washington D.C. statehood and call the new state Trump.

path: 0 19078032, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 1
Steve 2 points a year ago

Greenland Trumpland

path: 0 19078032 19092375, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
news
news

@lemmy.world

login for more options
38875
39574
9017

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.

Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.


5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.


7. No duplicate posts.

If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.

All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

go to feed...