I agree with the sentiment, but porn is maybe too restrictive. Phones basically became the new TV.
ClownStatue 48 points a year ago
unexposedhazard 11 points a year ago
It used to be porn but that was back when phone screens were 16:9. Now they are 18:9 and thats for vertical scrolling of social media feeds.
Cassanderer 1 point a year ago
Do tankies hate porn?
Newsteinleo 2 points a year ago
I have never met anyone that didn't like porn. Even your most prudish Christians like porn. Why do you think they fight so hard to ban it, they like it and are ashamed for liking it.
BuboScandiacus 30 points a year ago
Well, I like reading comfortably
dabaldeagul 10 points a year ago
Same, so for that reason the ads should gtfo to make more space for the text 👍
(And fonts that are tall but not wide aren't very comfortable imo)
gandalf_der_12te 1 point a year ago
Same, it hurts my eyes if the text is too small. I have all my fonts set to 120% size minimum.
epyon22 16 points a year ago
No worries for me
Own your hardware
gandalf_der_12te 3 points a year ago
"Owning your hardware" implies the bootloader is unlockable and relockable.
AaronMaria 3 points a year ago
Don't forget all the margins around everything for no reason
DmMacniel 2 points a year ago
Yes, look at the screen resolution of your phone (mine is at 1080x2340 by 6.38 to 2.97 inches) and then at an old palm PDA from the early 2000s with 320x320 (or at tops 320x480 by 4.8 to 3.1 inches) and now compare what amount of text you can display on each. The Phone should be able to display soo much more Text, but it doesn't because the Fonts are so tall.
Thats what I mean.
undefined 1 point a year ago
Because modern phones are somewhere near 400 DPI the fonts are rendered much larger so that they appear more clearer.
If you ran it at 72 DPI (like 90s-era monitors, not sure shout PDAs) you could fit an insane amount of text but would it be legible?
ExcessShiv 13 points a year ago
That's mostly because we care about aesthetics. My work phone is some Samsung flagship model from two years ago, I don't have a case for it (because I don't give a shit his it looks). Its with me on all factory visits in dirty production environments and what not, dropped it multiple times, stored in my pocket or just thrown in my bag. Screen is not cracked, sides and back are scratched and dinged up, but nothing is broken. They're plenty durable if you don't care about minor cosmetic things.
Quill7513 11 points a year ago
oh man your experience is so different from mine 😂
any phone i drop brings it a little closer to being completely non functional as long as it's not in a case.
but i do agree with you about one thing: it is all about aesthetic. there's tons of phones out there made with less shatterproof/scratch resistant glass, or think enough outer shells to protect their innards because when you buy a phone in a store you find the slim ones sexier
titanicx 4 points a year ago
They're experience is different than pretty much every single person on the planet. Hell I keep my phone in a case covered and I still crack the screen even with screen protectors on it.
stephen01king 2 points a year ago
Nah, I'd prefer to have a case I can swap once it becomes too damaged vs a phone chassis whose damage I have to live with until I buy a new phone. I'm trying to keep my phone for a long time, so the former is definitely better for my use case.
Zedd_Prophecy 1 point a year ago
This is a good idea. I've had to learn how to disassemble and fix phones for the wife mostly and me leastly. She broke a camera glass - and a glass coated back plate. My issues were battery replacement and a USB port replacement and one headphone jack replacement. All things I managed to learn how to fix to keep our 5 to 7 year old phones going until we were damned ready to get a new one. Durability is crap for a reason.
Trainguyrom 3 points a year ago
Ehhh the one phone I didn't put a case on happened to be the one phone I broke a screen on. Maybe it's just pure chance, but I started doing cases and screen protectors again after that
Zedd_Prophecy 2 points a year ago
You've never damaged a phone ? You would be in the minority I think.
Quill7513 0 points a year ago
oh! so we're clear i'm not advocating against repairability. we absolutely must have that. but i'm tired of how easy it is to destroy an unfixable phone. we should have repairable phones that are designed to have long service intervals
Hazel 1 point a year ago
Just so I'm clear as well, I disagree with you on that most phones are easily destroyed :) People are just overly worried about destroying their phones, which is pretty unlikely to happen, because repairing them is annoying and expensive. So they use a case, but it really isn't all that necessary to do so.
I've had my phone caseless (with screen protector), and dropped it plenty of times, for 4 years and haven't broken it once. I'm also not too worried about breaking it though because it's easily repairable. If all phones were I think people would forgo a case more often.
guynamedzero 1 point a year ago
This looks too good to be true, especially from aliexpress
elucubra 2 points a year ago
A friend got one. A few months in it works flawlessly. It even has a projector built in!
It really is a tank.
It's Chinese. Will it spy on you? Maybe, but so does Google, maybe the govt, the meta app has been proven to listen even when supposedly not active.
Maybe the least invasive option is Pixel with graphene.
I use a Xiaomi, fwiw.
SubArcticTundra 3 points a year ago
You might like the king kong mini 2
SubArcticTundra 1 point a year ago
There's a mini 3 but it's taller so not as small
fading_person 1 point a year ago
There's a pro version and the king kong mini 3 too, both more recent.
Paradachshund 36 points a year ago
I have small hands and I hate how few small phones there are now
BlackVenom 15 points a year ago
I have larger than small hands and hate how few "small" phones there are.
muffedtrims 12 points a year ago
I have hands and hate how few "small" phones there are.
Paradachshund 2 points a year ago
My latest was a zenfone 10, which was the smallest I could find that had good features. It was not easy to find anything though 😑
blackn1ght 2 points a year ago
Same. It's been a problems for way over 10 years now. I've upgraded to the pixel 9 pro and it's just too big, even though it's one of the smaller modern phones available. It's actually smaller than my previous phone but it seems harder to hold one handed.
Berengaria_of_Navarre 32 points a year ago
By stuff you mean animated GIFs of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions being violated by giant alien tentacles, right?
Just say porn
TeddE 9 points a year ago
That's so obvious I didn't think it needed to be said. Who doesn't watch animated GIFs of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions being violated by giant alien tentacles?
Maybe if you're a kinky pervert you'd watch .mpeg of big breasted horse hung transgender anthropomorphic lions and giant alien tentacles doing missionary in a committed exclusive relationship exclusively for having kids, but nobody is that depraved.
moseschrute 9 points a year ago
Now I’m mad
bramkaandorp 6 points a year ago
Good catch!
boboliosisjones 22 points a year ago
i would kill for button based menu navigation to come back
ThunderWhiskers 16 points a year ago
Why
boboliosisjones 10 points a year ago
ergonomic, don't have to move your hands.
tactile, don't have to watch the phone to navigate if you are familiar with what you are doing
"safer" since you can rest your hands while holding your device without worrying about accidental touch inputs that means you can have a firmer grip
BackgrndNoize 1 point a year ago
But it eats into tbr screen size if implemented the old school Blackberry way, instead what I'd prefer is a under the screen slide out keyboard + navigation pad, like the Blackberry priv, or even the LG wing with the second display screen could have been an amazing form factor, allowing you to control the main display from the smaller customizable touch display at the bottom, at least my main screen wouldn't have all these finger smudges
boboliosisjones 2 points a year ago
Yes, but even just for menu navigation without keyboard would be an improvement. wouldn't have to use more space than the old physical home buttons.
However typing is the more frustrating element, so it would be nice.
ThunderWhiskers -2 points a year ago
ergonomic, don't have to move your hands.
I can't even begin to understand what you mean by this. It sounds like maybe you're an iPhone user, which has almost no native universal controls. Android has options like gestures or a digital button bar, which allow for universal navigation from the same location that physical buttons would be in.
tactile, don't have to watch the phone to navigate if you are familiar with what you are doing
Those buttons are contextually dynamic. You wouldn't be able to use them without looking at the screen anyway.
"safer" since you can rest your hands while holding your device without worrying about accidental touch inputs that means you can have a firmer grip
How are you firmly gripping buttons without pushing them? This makes no sense.
It sounds like you have rose tinted glasses inspired by the inferiority of iOS, but I'm making assumptions.
boboliosisjones 1 point a year ago
I can't even begin to understand what you mean by this. It sounds like maybe you're an iPhone user, which has almost no native universal controls. Android has options like gestures or a digital button bar, which allow for universal navigation from the same location that physical buttons would be in.
I don't use iPhone. I mean the button does not move, a touch interface might require input anywhere on the screen.
Those buttons are contextually dynamic. You wouldn't be able to use them without looking at the screen anyway
They are dynamic, but if you are doing the same task, they will do the same thing. Meaning if you are habitually doing a task, you can memorize it.
How are you firmly gripping buttons without pushing them? This makes no sense.
I am talking about gripping the whole device, not holding buttons. On a touchscreen device the whole thing is a button, so you only want to grab the bezel, which is as tiny as the designer can muster, to avoid accidental input. This makes for a less firm and ergonomic grip.
It sounds like you have rose tinted glasses inspired by the inferiority of iOS, but I'm making assumptions
You are indeed making assumptions. How do you conclude that advocating for buttons is tied to the device that revolitionized the industry towards touch only?
boonhet 1 point a year ago
I think iOS had gesture navigation long before Android, as default anyway.
But I’m pretty sure that person is talking about how it used to be before smartphones, when you really only needed the ok/enter button and the d-pad around it. Modern smartphones can’t be entirely navigated by a single thumb that you don't even move.
boboliosisjones 1 point a year ago
everyone needs a hobby
Kolanaki 21 points a year ago
Anyone remember when Steve Jobs said in response to adding video support to the iPod that "nobody wants to watch videos on a handheld?" And then just a few months later, iPods got support for images and videos?
tino 2 points a year ago
and when iPhone 4 was released, Apple also explained it had the perfect size because you could reach any part of the screen with your thumb while holding it in your hand... but also, antennagate. Steve Jobs was full of crap.
panda_abyss 15 points a year ago
There’s an early Corner Gas episode where Brent and Davis get into a competition over who can get the smallest phone, it feels so odd watching it today.
relativestranger 5 points a year ago
i had a guy visit the office a couple months ago with a smarty phone that was smaller than my flip phone closed-up. i loved it. i decided then that if i ever did 'have to' get one--and i could afford it, it would be one of those (a jelly).
tanisnikana 4 points a year ago
God, I miss that show. I’m gonna go pirate that shit.
panda_abyss 10 points a year ago
You can watch it on the Internet archive
tanisnikana 5 points a year ago
Thank you so much!
Diplomjodler3 13 points a year ago
Lots of "stuff" in my homework folder.
juliebean 4 points a year ago
i don't think maximizing screen surface area percentage is that great, actually. i'd much rather have my physical navigation buttons back. also that "notch" thing that so many new phones are doing is stupid af.
hOrni 1 point a year ago
What's wrong with a notch? You need a front camera. How else would You do it? The space on the sides of the notch isn't wasted. It's where all the icons are displayed. Like the time, Bluetooth, battery and connection. I see it as a good thing.
BackgrndNoize 3 points a year ago
Look at the design of Blackberry Priv, or the LG Wing, they could keep the big screen and still figure out more innovative layouts, if they wanted to and if there was enough customer demand
RememberTheApollo_ 12 points a year ago
They got bigger so there was more room for ads.
thatradomguy 12 points a year ago
we could watch stuff could watch ads
tigolbitties -1 points a year ago
And porn
thatradomguy 1 point a year ago
I really want to know now if people somehow still managed to get porn on their old Motorolas. Must've taken ages to download but probably worth it. Maybe.
Hikermick 12 points a year ago
I remember back in 1990ish, there was a guy involved in the local music scene who got interviewed on AM radio (Right before the rise of conservative talk radio, when there were still local hosts talking about local issues.). This guy wasn't a big shot and not a musician, just a guy passabout music. tmusic. He went by the moniker Jim Clevo, I had the fortune of meeting him once. Anyways, he had insight as to where the music industry was headed. In the interview, he told how in the future we would be listening to music through our phones. At the time high tech was a cordless landlines with an answering machine built in. He sounded crazy, i couldn't figure out why he thought we would all be holding phones up to our ears listening to music, I never had anything but a corded phone at the time. Not sure why I'm rambling about it other than this post reminded me of him.
soycapitan451 4 points a year ago
Was he frank zappa?
Alcoholicorn 2 points a year ago
I mean as soon as cassettes were a thing, mix tapes by holding the cassette to the radio became a thing right? Why not phones?
Hell back in the 80s, before the breakup of Yugoslavia, they went a step further: they had a home PC that could be built from parts available at electronics stores. It used a cassette recorder for a HDD.
A local radio station started broadcasting software, pc owners could record the audio of a program on a Walkman, then put the tape in their PC.
There's a past we never got where a radio-based internet existed alongside the landlines based one.
helpImTrappedOnline 11 points a year ago
And what if I don't want to watch "stuff" on my phone? My phone is supposed to be a portable "swiss-army-knife" of digital tools.
They made tablets for the other "stuff"
slaneesh_is_right 4 points a year ago
I'll never forget circa 2005, my friend was at the Montreal jazz festival or something. He told me about it and he said he took a video. He whipped out his phone that was basically a really thick pen. He showed me a video of another friend doing goofy stuff. Even on this tiny phonewith a tiny screen, it was really enough. I miss the time when someone took out his phone and you actually had no idea what to expect.
ILikeBoobies 11 points a year ago
From this graph we can say the Razr was peak
dual_sport_dork 4 points a year ago
I still have one somewhere. I'm amazed at how quickly people forgot that for a period of about a year, the Razr was the "it" phone to have. It was a fashion symbol, and had the same general societal status as the iPhone... before the iPhone.
Then smartphones hit it big especially with the iPhone itself and nobody gave a shit anymore.
One of the Razr's other big contributions was in abandoning the usual stupid proprietary multi-pin model specific cell phone charging connectors because it normalized the then state of the art USB mini B connector for both charging and data transfer. People were going around calling the mini B "the Razr plug" for a couple of months there, fully believing it was yet more proprietary bullshit because that's what they'd been conditioned to expect.
Early cell phones were weird. We don't get that kind of weird anymore.
hperrin 9 points a year ago
I think a lot of the reason phones are getting bigger is because of battery life. You can absolutely make a small phone with a big battery, but then it would be thicc and people (read plebs) don’t want little bricks, they want big slabs.
So for the few of us that want little bricks, we’re just entirely fucked. There are the Jelly phones, but they run Android, and I’d rather have a slab that spies on me a little less than a perfect brick filled to the brim with Google spyware.
I’m waiting and hoping and waiting and hoping that Linux phones get to the point where I can daily drive one.
Zedd_Prophecy 4 points a year ago
I am in this camp- little brick with a replaceable battery because if I want to watch a show or play a game I'll use a different device. Absolutely no one caters to us. I would also pick a Linux phone if I could in that form factor but in the US there's not even a smattering of choice. To make a Linux phone work you'd need an emulation layer to make android apps work (I honestly don't know the state of Linux phones on this ) but without it you'd be using a windows phone with craptastic app support. That's what really killed WIndows phone. Lets keep hoping brother.
hperrin 2 points a year ago
This is the only manufacturer I know of making modern little phones:
But they’re Android.
Zedd_Prophecy 2 points a year ago
Those are actually really cool thanks!
BananaTrifleViolin 8 points a year ago
We didn't "realise" we could watch stuff; we got touch screen technology, wifi and mobile data became cheaper as we got 3G, 4G and 5G. The we *could *watch stuff, and browse the internet - this was always the obvious course of phones even in the 90s when bricks were still around. Meanwhile battery tech hasn't moved forwards much, so these big screen, wifi, Bluetooth & 5G connected,video playing devices need bigger batteries to keep going all day. Ironically a bigger device - even with a bigger screen - will have a longer battery life because you can physically fit a bigger battery in.
Also this chart stops at 2015 - and thats still accurate. Mobile phone tech has plateaued. Time was, iPhone launches each year were a big deal because Apple was good at bringing previously out a of reach tech into the mass market. Now all the changes are minor and phone launches are dull. iPhones are now just popular because they're iPhones. Chips are getting a bit more energy efficient pushing the capabilities a bit; but cameras, screens, storage and connectivity are probably as good as they're going to get for now beyone incremental changes.
We're now probably in the enshittification phase where companies try to justify ever increasing prices but can't - iPhone prices have been largely static for 5 years because Apple can't find a compelling reason to increase them. Whether there are stupid notches in the phone display, or expensive accessories like wireless headphones or now trying to up-sell people on software / services - ultimately a phone is just a phone now. The manufacturers latest hope is that somehow AI will allow them to charge more but it's looking like AI in it's current form has little value to consumers. Apple has delayed it's changes to Siri because it's struggling to make something that isn't basically just another unreliable overhyped LLM.
Realistically the next real leap in phones will probably only come if and when battery tech improves; if smaller high energy density batteries come then that really will unlock a new revolution. The AI bubble doesn't look like it's going to deliver.
chatokun 3 points a year ago
Before full touch screens came out I bought a small windows CE full screen device and put a few videos on it on a card (can't recall if it was sd or something more primitive) and watched anime in between calls at work.
I always wanted this, and phones getting better at it just meant less devices. I am partial to phablets and fold phones because I like to read books,light novels,and manga on a bigger screen while being portable. I have in the past used both a tablet and phone before I got my fold, and when the inside screen of my fold failed after a couple years I am now back at both until I can afford a replacement.
I know not everyone wants this, but that's why we have options, and dumb/feature phones can still be purchased, even from large carriers (though price of plan may be wasted on those). These memes act like there are only smartphones now, but dumbphones were always an option.
jj4211 2 points a year ago
Realistically the next real leap in phones will probably only come if and when battery tech improves
I don't think so. The real thing is just ergonomics. They want as big a screen as they can and human hands are only so big. They won't retreat in form factor.
If anything they'll are toying w bit with folding screens to make devices scale up and still be hand friendly.
The next big step is going to have to be wearable, to produce arbitrarily large content hands free. Don't know if social norms will tolerate it, but that's really the possible evolution from the status quo.
fading_person 8 points a year ago
More like corporations realized that people with larger screens tend to browse more content and spend more time in their phones, so they made it the only available option, whether you like it or not.
NichEherVielleicht 4 points a year ago
Angry upvote!
Zedd_Prophecy 5 points a year ago
I am so opposite of this - you could never sell me a foldable - I can't even find one Android game that is worth playing that isn't a remake of an old PC game. That folding will eventually kill the device earlier than a non fold. I just don't see the draw... I have a tablet or laptop or pc for games and other stuff.
Psythik 0 points a year ago
Don't know what to tell you, because I've owned four different foldables and none of them ever had any issues. They're just durable and reliable as any other phone.
You remind me of the kind of people who avoid OLEDs, because they still believe that burn-in is an issue that wasn't solved years ago...
blackn1ght 2 points a year ago
Not sure it's really relevant how long someone spends on their phone. The only thing that matters to them are sales, and the simple matter is that larger screens sell better than their smaller counterparts.
fading_person 1 point a year ago
The more time someone spends on their phone, the more likely they are to want better ones, the more likely it is for their phones to break, so they end up selling more. Also, it's very likely that manufacturers have partnerships with corporations like google, meta, etc, that profit a lot from increased phone usage.
dogs0n 7 points a year ago
Some phones go to the extreme, but my small circle camera cutout doesn't bother me. On a phone, it's always in the status/notification bar anyways so not a big deal unless you watch a lot of widescreen content.
The biggest deevolution must be audio jacks... the big lie of "we need to remove them so we can make your phones smaller", just for phones to get thicker. Surely it can fit.
thespcicifcocean 6 points a year ago
I wish 2g and 3g weren't being dismantled. I want to go back to using my old razr
PurpleClouds 5 points a year ago
and the battery life 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱
azvasKvklenko 5 points a year ago
I absolutely hate that phones got so darn big. Im stuck with iPhone 13 mini even though I hate iOS with no clear upgrade path
Lushed_Lungfish 3 points a year ago
Tallest on the left, shortest on the right....SIZE!
Subdivide6857 16 points a year ago
Apple was slow to adopt larger screens. The Android phones of that time were roughly an inch larger. Apple rarely blazed any trails.
ThunderWhiskers 12 points a year ago
Exactly. Apples biggest success has been looking at all the options being tested by other manufacturers, choosing the option they want, then completely eliminating all other options and convincing people in droves that what they are offering is what you want.
then_three_more 7 points a year ago
and that it was their idea
RecursiveParadox 2 points a year ago
To be fair, until about a decade ago, they did generally steal pick the best of available options.
Subdivide6857 4 points a year ago
It’s unfortunate. I’d love a small, privacy respecting phone. Bonus points if it has an eink display.
WrongDoer1 1 point a year ago
That's exactly what the Mudita Kompakt is ! Give it a try it's great!
ThunderWhiskers 1 point a year ago
Phablets were larger than modern screens; in the 8-9" range. You were lucky to fit one in a back pocket.
Natanael 2 points a year ago
No, I saw 4" media devices be called media tablets (hello Archos) whole phones were stuck on 2.5" to 3"
And after that as phone sizes grew, 6-7" screens were called phablets
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