uhhh... what do I call the "subreddits"?

3 years ago by falcoignis to c/linux

Very difficult to discuss with the fiance without know the terminology yet lol

Venus 82 points 3 years ago

They're communities. And the different servers/sites are instances.

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SammichParade 25 points 3 years ago

Petition to name them SubLemmys

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communist 38 points 3 years ago

I like communities, honestly, it sounds much less... y'know, reddity?

And also, it's much more intuitive.

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bnaur 4 points 3 years ago

Personally that term makes me a bit uneasy. To me it sounds too grandiose and organized just for something that might just be some random people shitposting or chatting about their interests. And actually having tight knit communities can easily lead to all kinds of negative effects, group think, hierarchies and drama.

Of course some subreddits, forums, lemmy communities etc can be actual communities but just as a personal preference I don't like the idea of calling them that default.

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BigUwU 2 points 3 years ago

I don’t like the term community because it’s difficult to understand the hierarchy. Is an instance a part of a community? Or vice versa?

What do you think of subinstance?

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Guy_Fieris_Hair 2 points 3 years ago

I think "sub" is what people are going to call them reguardless. It is just internet language at this point, a subdivision of a community (by community I mean lemmy as a whole) is called a sub. Weather it's a subreddit or sublemmy. I'm not saying bring reddit with us, I am just saying the internet can take the term "sub" with it and use it elsewhere.

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negativenull 8 points 3 years ago

Sublemminals? (or Sublemmynals)

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Dougie 1 point 3 years ago

Love it 😂

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Heimchen 6 points 3 years ago

Instances also need better names.

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MasterBlaster 8 points 3 years ago

Why not "servers"? That's all they are. They serve content.

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SpacePirate 1 point 3 years ago

Because technically, one server can host multiple instances. Instances are containerized— literally an instance of lemmy.

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communist 4 points 3 years ago

What would you call gmail vs hotmail?

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dnzm 6 points 3 years ago

Providers.

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9488fcea02a9 1 point 3 years ago

new to lemmy....

if there different "linux" communities on different instances? does this mean i have to subscribe to all of them? is there a way to see all content from communities called "linux" from different instances?

or does each "linux" community simply fight for critical mass to become the "main" linux community on lemmy?

thanks

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Mane25 2 points 3 years ago

I don't dislike the idea that there could be multiple similar communities (for example Linux communities) on different instances. That way if you have beef with one you could sign up to another; in a non-ideal world that strikes me as healthier than having one to rule them all and lots of people bitter about it. I think it's best to leave it to sort itself out organically.

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Venus 1 point 3 years ago

There could be different linux communities on different instances, and to see them all you'd have to subscribe to them and sort by subscribed view. But yeah, in practice most of the time there will emerge one "main" linux community and, if it gets big enough, likely offshoot communities for different philosophies or more specificity.

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JohannesOliver 2 points 3 years ago

A “merge identical” option in the individual users’ ui would be kind of neat, to have one page.

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bonegakrejg 78 points 3 years ago

Sub-Lemminal messages?

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newbiejones 11 points 3 years ago

that’s brilliant actually for a mobile app name

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proxzima 8 points 3 years ago

I like this one

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Lemmington 66 points 3 years ago

Communities, which have a parent instance.

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redawl 64 points 3 years ago

+1 for Communities, since that's what they are called in the official UI and documentation

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Fredselfish 1 point 3 years ago

I like Lemmings. Has a ring to it.

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open_world 59 points 3 years ago

I just thought they were called "communities". At least, that's what the Lemmy UI shows.

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konki 9 points 3 years ago

So "coms" for short?

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bradmoor 18 points 3 years ago

Commies

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PorkrollPosadist 3 points 3 years ago

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3laws 2 points 3 years ago

⚒️✊

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kristina 1 point 3 years ago

🔨

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Guy_Fieris_Hair 7 points 3 years ago

I feel like if the short version isn't "sub" then it is never going to stick. Reddit doesn't own words but it has set the standard. Sublemmies. That's what it is in my mind now.

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Captain_Wtv 2 points 3 years ago

2 m's makes it look better imo

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staticnoise 46 points 3 years ago

Communities is the name used on my UI.

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humanplayer2 16 points 3 years ago

Mine, too. And it's fits the /c/... format.

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ug01x 3 points 3 years ago

I think this is correct. In my headcannon I have started to call flowing through the different sites exploring the lemmyverse, which just feels right.

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Yadaran 43 points 3 years ago

I'll just call them sublemmys

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Senseibull 15 points 3 years ago

Lol I quite like it, at one point reddit was a foreign weird sounding word

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Knoll0114 8 points 3 years ago

Way more fun than communities! Plus it speaks to the Reddit exodus in a bit of a tongue in cheek way.

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Seraph089 6 points 3 years ago

It's a nice lighthearted nod to the exodus, and also a nod to the subforums that came before Reddit. Communities may be the "official" name and I try to use it when talking to others, but they'll always be sublemmys in my head.

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JohannesOliver -1 points 3 years ago

I think using Communities is respectful to the people that were already doing community on Lemmy before the exodus.

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KSposh 5 points 3 years ago

I think this is the clear winner

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Guy_Fieris_Hair 1 point 3 years ago

Its prefect, I think the "trade name" for that is "sub" anyways and that's what they will be called no matter what they are suposed to be called.

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EnglishMobster 39 points 3 years ago

On Lemmy, they are "communities".

On Kbin, they are "magazines". I am told that "magazine" is a pun in Polish (Kbin's maintainer is Polish).

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HeartyBeast 17 points 3 years ago

Having been here all of 30 minutes, referring to them “bins” might be a nice

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Syo 12 points 3 years ago

Did we just witness the birth of viral content in this bin?

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DarkThoughts 6 points 3 years ago

I wholeheartedly agree with this one. It's also still semi funny referring to them as basically trashcans. But I think as a new user it is just way more streamlined and sensible than calling them "magazines". When I read that first I just could think of like paper magazines and thought they'd be some sort of editorial content, which is highly misleading. Calling them "bins" just makes way more sense and sort of adds to the brand of the platform.

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shaal 5 points 3 years ago

nice and simple. this works for me..

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speck 3 points 3 years ago

Ditto. This is the winner!

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squeebee 4 points 3 years ago

Bin there, read that.

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Skullduggery 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah I mean it's short and kind of right there in your face... +1 for bins

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OutXider 5 points 3 years ago

If they're called "magazines", then I'm calling them "clips" for short.

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shootwhatsmyname 3 points 3 years ago

How about mags?

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fuzzyshark 3 points 3 years ago

I think I prefer "zines" as a shortened form of "magazines."
"Clips" sounds more like a post within a magazine.

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BreadDog 2 points 3 years ago

Ohh, I like zines as a shortened version

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Xperr7 2 points 3 years ago

Oh man, that'd annoy so many people that are pedantic, including me lmao.

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Aliyen 1 point 3 years ago

I'm going "gazis."

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noodlejetski 2 points 3 years ago

one of kbin instances (the first one, maybe?) is called karab.in ("rif.le"), hence the magazines I guess.

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fossilesque 36 points 3 years ago
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teawrecks 28 points 3 years ago

But aren't WE the lemmings?

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kadu 8 points 3 years ago

Surprisingly philosophical

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kitsuneofinari 5 points 3 years ago

Dude... You just blew my mind. (ʘ ͟ʖ ʘ)

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vox 34 points 3 years ago

just call them communities (I also sometimes just call them topics because that's how they're called in my reddit clone pet project)

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torgeir 29 points 3 years ago

Lemmings

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Pagliacci 19 points 3 years ago

If anything I think that'll be what us users end up calling ourselves.

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a_lemming 10 points 3 years ago

Indeed

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ban 9 points 3 years ago

username checks out

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3laws 2 points 3 years ago

Ah the good ol' user-roo. Hold my jokes, I'm going in.

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_thayer 29 points 3 years ago
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42triangles 13 points 3 years ago

If someone says "comms" I'm going to think "communications"

but I guess that also technically works ^^

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IverCoder 4 points 3 years ago

I saw red vent in comms

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isVeryLoud 1 point 3 years ago

When someone says "sub", I think "dom"

Or sandwich, depends on my mood.

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primalmotion 24 points 3 years ago

officially, per protocol, it's Groups. but that sucks :)

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tebicat 13 points 3 years ago

isn't that an ActivityPub term, not a lemmy term? usually ActivityPub uses different terms than the servers that use it.

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guildz 5 points 3 years ago

Yeah, in the lemmy source code they are called "Communities"; in the kbin source code they are called "Magazines"; I think Mastodon uses the ActivityPub lexicon and also uses "Groups" in it's source code. I perfer "Communities" because that is how the "Groups" are being used.

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araquen 23 points 3 years ago

I’ve seen “communities,” and my personal conceit is that “like” communities (communities with the same, similar, or synergistic subject matter) are “cohorts” so you don’t have to type “multi-communities”

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Neil 12 points 3 years ago path: 0 78943 80075, hotness: undefined, score: 12, children: 0
palitu 6 points 3 years ago

can we call them commies?

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Segnis 16 points 3 years ago

no

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aka_oscar 3 points 3 years ago

oof, id rather call them "comms" or just "cs"(cees)

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palitu 4 points 3 years ago

i come from a country where commie is never used as a slur, but by the number of replies that i have received that are mildly horrified, i guess that i may need to think of a different name!

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god 1 point 3 years ago

in th united STates, commie is an insult

it means communist, and it is a slur, it 's like the n word but for blievers of communims

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michaeljo94 2 points 3 years ago

The "commies" like the comunists? I suppose that does not work

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aianarchist 1 point 3 years ago
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palitu 1 point 3 years ago

classic

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Latework 0 points 3 years ago

Hell yeah

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BrooklynMan 23 points 3 years ago

communities

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qprimed 22 points 3 years ago

oh snap! you know Lemmy has hit the big time when its a topic of discussion between SOs!

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lvxferre 10 points 3 years ago

I've been talking about it with a relative, because she really enjoys "popcorn" (i.e. drama).

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qprimed 7 points 3 years ago

nerd drama the best drama. :-)

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sup 22 points 3 years ago

I like communities. I believe that's the the /c/ stands for

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CeruleanRuin 2 points 3 years ago

Might as well keep it simple and call it what it is without the branding. There is plenty about a site like reddit that we should carry forward, but plenty were should leave behind, and redundant jargon is the latter.

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jon 20 points 3 years ago

"lemmies" has a nice ring to it

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isVeryLoud 14 points 3 years ago

Lemmunities (I pulled it out of my ass, take it or leave it)

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WandererLagomorph799 13 points 3 years ago

Sometimes Iused "sublemmies" based on what a few others have done, but mostly I just use community or something similar.

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3laws 2 points 3 years ago

I like this one because I read and say it as su-blee-mies.

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alehc 12 points 3 years ago

Technically communities but I prefer the term sublemmy

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PascalSausage 12 points 3 years ago

I've seen sub-lemmy being used which is cute, but has the obvious ties to Reddit. I guess we all get to work this out together!

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MadCybertist 10 points 3 years ago
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kitsuneofinari 5 points 3 years ago

Agreed. Communities make sense and is easy to remember.

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NettoHikari 12 points 3 years ago

@falcoignis On KBin, they're called "Magazines". Not quite sure if I like it. lol.

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Gikiski 1 point 3 years ago

Because you fill them with bullets (posts and comments)?

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Ninguem 1 point 3 years ago

Idea for next social media platform: call them circles.

One more: exactly like lemmy but call them rooms.

Another: exactly like every other one but call them... groups (ups, you might have to fight google though - "groups" might be trademarked!)

Sorry for the sarcasm, but shouldn't this be set in the spec for the fediverse protocol already?

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isVeryLoud 2 points 3 years ago

Didn't Google have Circles?

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mansauce 8 points 3 years ago

and more importantly, what are lemmy users called? for reddit we have redditors, for lemmy.. lemminors?!

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bocchi_but_male 59 points 3 years ago

Lemmings?

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GreenCrush 7 points 3 years ago

I like this one.

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gylotip 1 point 3 years ago
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metaltoilet 2 points 3 years ago

Oh god that show... it's so mind numbing but I still watch it occasionally.

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10EXP 7 points 3 years ago

Fuck it, call them Lem. Memes is a Sub-Lemmy on Lemmy on the lemmy.nl Lem.

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DrYes 6 points 3 years ago

Creating Lem Rezar

edit: what's the etiquette around image posts?

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1hitsong 6 points 3 years ago

Yes! Your post gives me hope there are other fans of the hack frauds on here.

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ColonelPanic 2 points 3 years ago

These men are pawns!

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AClassyGentleman 1 point 3 years ago

Referencing RLM? How embarrassing.

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Piatro 1 point 3 years ago

Oh god please no

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CallMeIshmael 6 points 3 years ago

This is all very confusing to me

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handyman 10 points 3 years ago
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KSposh 3 points 3 years ago

ah Nice! that's a pretty clear explanation, thanks 👍

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Piatro 4 points 3 years ago

I think part of why it's confusing is that we don't have defined names for these things. This is so early in a social media "product" life that there isn't a common understanding. You're now part of making those names. It's a bit exciting but mostly confusing while everyone uses their own terms to mean the same fundamental things. Embrace the chaos!

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malin 3 points 3 years ago path: 0 44417 45428 45708, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
JohannesOliver 2 points 3 years ago

Lemmy is four years old, I think there are names for these things and we should probably learn them.

We are travelers in a land that already had people, maybe see what they call it before declaring it New Amsterdam.

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bnaur 1 point 3 years ago

I don't know, Reddit and Lemmy differ from common social media platforms (I wouldn't really call Reddit style forums social media anyway) in that they are structured around different topics/categories and threads and in that way are closer to earlier newsgroups, bbs's, forums and such. So the main concepts aren't really that new and weird, we have had subforums, topics, groups, channels and such for decades now.

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Piatro 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah that's where I think the fediverse is failing new users. Talking about the fediverse itself and instancing etc is just making it sound complicated. No other social media/forum/whatever talks about its technology in such an up front way, for good reason.

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Spzi 1 point 3 years ago

part of why it’s confusing is that we don’t have defined names for these things.

But we do: Communities.

You find that term in the UI, in user documentation, and the /c/ part of the URL also refers to that.

Calling it anything else, especially unrelated to /c/, will only make it harder and more confusing for new people to join.

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croobat 6 points 3 years ago

Sublemmies?

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Fabrik872 5 points 3 years ago

I like the idea to put lemmie in every word it is like with batman. Users should be called Lemmiathans.

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nephs 4 points 3 years ago

Lemmings.

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Caboose12000 1 point 3 years ago

I think it'd be more fun to just call us Lemurs

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NegativeLookBehind 6 points 3 years ago
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Captain_Wtv 5 points 3 years ago

I saw someone below mention that hexbear calls them comms with 2 m's. That sounds like the best nickname.

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Arcaneslime 4 points 3 years ago

My brain will never not read that as "communications," I'm gonna think everyone here is real serious about HAM radio lol.

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PorkrollPosadist 3 points 3 years ago

Some of us are

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GreenCrush 3 points 3 years ago

Oooohh. Comms has that roll off the tongue sound to it.

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Wilshire 5 points 3 years ago

Sublemminals, jk communities

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larvyde 3 points 3 years ago

That would make posts "sublemminal messages"

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CheshireSnake 5 points 3 years ago

So subreddit=subs as communities=comms? I'm not typing communities all the time lmao.

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tallwookie 8 points 3 years ago

presumably new slang will be developed as the communities mature.

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yunggwailo 8 points 3 years ago

call them commies

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elonspez 2 points 3 years ago

community+lemmies -> commies, sounds pretty natural to me

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Venus 6 points 3 years ago

yeah, over on hexbear comms is the usual parlance anyway. the wider lemmy population with the new reddit people might change that though

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zombiepiratefromspace 4 points 3 years ago

If the official name is magazines, then why not use "mags"?

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el_doso 4 points 3 years ago

I think just kbin refers to them as magazines, and (currently at least) Lemmy seems to be the more popular platform, calling them communities.

Neither is great tbh

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Guy_Fieris_Hair 2 points 3 years ago

Just call them sublemmies so we can just type subs.

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MonitorDeodorant 4 points 3 years ago

Personally, I think "forum" works.

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lunarshot 4 points 3 years ago

forum works, board also works. Instances are new to me and interesting.

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ArtemisDown 2 points 3 years ago

Instances are effectively just different versions of the site, they all communicate with each other and display the same data (roughly), like someone said in a different post, think of it like Email, wherever you made your account being your host domain (An example being look at mine and your username, you are posting from Beehaw, while I'm from Sh.itjust.works, different instances, same content.)

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Cal 1 point 3 years ago

I like board. Communities is too long, and coms sound like communication which armies use, magazines/mags is a bit odd and may be mistaken with the obvious gun reference. Forum is like the pre digg forums (like hardforum.com).

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autumnplains 3 points 3 years ago

Yeah I'm still pretty confused tbh! So I'm on kbin, you have kbin next to your name too OP, but then the sidebar has reddthat.com and linux@lemmy.ml?

Does this mean we both signed up at kbin but the subreddit equivalent is linux (on Lemmy.ml)? But then how does reddthat.com come into it?

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sxt 5 points 3 years ago

You can kindof think of the fediverse stuff as being similar to email. You and I both signed up to create an account with kbin.social. This is where our account lives and it will show up in our full username (hover over any username) after the second @. You are @autumnplains@kbin.social and I am @sxt@kbin.social.

OP created their account with reddthat.com so that is where their account lives.

Unlike email however, we aren't sending messages directly to each other - we are instead sending them to a particular "community" which happens to live on the lemmy.ml server. This is possible since each of these hosts are running software which can communicate in a common manner (this is what ActivityPub defines the rules for). You probably got to this thread from kbin's general "threads" page which is able to list posts from other hosts due to them being federated (can communicate what posts they have to each other).

As for kbin.social being put next to the right of the title for this thread, I'm not sure. I think that might just be part of kbin's UI showing where we are viewing the thread from?

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DarkThoughts 4 points 3 years ago

The problem is that every "magazine" or "community" or whatever you want to call them (each one using a different name is also a bit of an issue) is part of their own decentralized network. Yes, you might be able to read them from other services, but it still causes a lot of fragmentation. For example when I look into something akin to a news sub for international news, I find worldnews@lemmy.ml as well as news@beehaw.org. Both basically do the same thing topically, but both have different submitted content, different users, and oddly in this case even the same owner.

This now begs the question for me as a user: Which one do I subscribe to if I want to stay informed? An article on one side could be submitted or gain traction when it does not on the other. But subbing to both could lead to a lot of duplicate articles being fed to me.

I think this is a huge issue in the whole design philosophy of the fediverse that will hamper the growth of those services. Deciding where to make an account might be something a new user gets around to, but being then confronted by this is very quickly going to turn away the absolute majority of potential users. There needs to be at least a little bit centralization to form major default communities that at least start as a gathering hub for new people. If there's issues with them then people can still create alternatives if the user numbers are high enough, but in its current form I'd have to decide between several places that are essentially the same thing.

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png 3 points 3 years ago

But is it really a Problem exclusive to the fediverse? there is several large news communities on reddit as well, and you have to pick or see duplicates. Also, this is only an issue in heavily aggregation-focused communities, not in those where content is generated (memes, hobby communities) as those do not have the issue of duplicates so you can just sub to all the ones you are interested in, even if several of them have the same subject.

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bnaur 2 points 3 years ago

This now begs the question for me as a user: Which one do I subscribe to if I want to stay informed? An article on one side could be submitted or gain traction when it does not on the other. But subbing to both could lead to a lot of duplicate articles being fed to me.

Theres nothing stopping the client from offering a different or entirely customizable view to the content.

For example the client could allow user to place those communities under a common News category in their client. Then the client would combine all identical links in the category according to some criteria (e.g same link posted in the same day would count as identical) and either merge the comments or let the user pick which communitys comments to see, or preferably both. So comments section could have a buttons for "Comments at news@beehaw.org", "Combine comments" etc.

I think it should be possible to build a client that hides most of the details about different instances and such so it would function almost the same as traditional RSS readers.

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speck 3 points 3 years ago

My first kbin ELI5!

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0xtero 2 points 3 years ago

As for kbin.social being put next to the right of the title for this thread, I'm not sure. I think that might just be part of kbin's UI showing where we are viewing the thread from?

It seems that if kbin federates a post that doesn't have a link or image and just points to itself, it fills in (kbin.social) as the link pointer, when you view it on kbin. It's a bit confusing at first, should probably be replaced by something that indicates it's a federated "self"-post.

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0xtero 2 points 3 years ago

This is a post to linux community (@linux@lemmy.ml) by user falcoignis (@falcoignis@reddthat.com). You're reading it on kbin since it has federated this post. The default "front page" shows federated feed (Threads).

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money_loo 3 points 3 years ago

Oh of course that all makes perfect sense now….

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preussischblau 2 points 3 years ago

OP is on reddthat (@falcoignis@reddthat.com), which is a Lemmy instance, and the community this post is on is !linux@lemmy.ml. Not sure what's up with kbin appearing next to OP's name for you, might be incidental because of kbin's UI or something.

Edit: just looked on kbin for myself, no idea what is up with that honestly, but I see what you're talking about as well.

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plexnose 3 points 3 years ago

Communities

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CookieJarObserver 3 points 3 years ago
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jdkfbdjdfhfkndd 2 points 3 years ago

Call it sublemmy. I don't call it that though

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true_blue 0 points 3 years ago

Whatever it's called, it'd probably have to have "c" somewhere in the name, since that's what appears in the urls.

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god 1 point 3 years ago

c-cum-com-community

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