Violent MAGA dude killed two people for shitting on Charlie Kirk
9 months ago by ByteOnBikes to c/political_weirdos
The 17-year-old suspect from Garwood — a son of a retired police officer and the nephew of the Westfield police chief — was charged Wednesday with the first-degree murders of Maria Niotis and Isabella Salas.
Relatives of Niiotis said the teen had been stalking her for months — something the teen suspect acknowledged on livestreams of his MLB co-op games, which attracted thousands of followers on TikTok.
Further proof that many cops aren't accidentally useless, they'll jerk themselves off about protecting their community, but readily deny assistance to someone that they can justify not giving a fuck about. Fucking pieces of shit, they hung those two girls out to dry while they were being actively stalked.
Capricious cops who conduct selective law enforcement are the worst.
They did something: they immediately distanced themselves from him once the news picked up this story. The reporting is terrible bc a lot is via NJ.com which is a garbage site but he is the nephew of the chief of police (his dad, the chiefs brother, is also a cop), and the chief was very quick to make a statement that was basically like “hey fuck this kid, not my family (except he literally is)”.
He also initially got away with it. Despite the fact that she had a restraining order and a history of issues with this boy he runs her and her friend down in cold fucking blood going 3x the speed limit. So what do the cops do? Give him 15 tickets and let him go home of course. And what does he do? Immediately livestreams and talks about the crime like he didn’t just straight up murder them.
I mean maybe I’m crazy but this reeks of Elliot Rodger misogynist incel shit. People just want literally everything to be politics now. Tbf that is more right wing but it’s not necessarily political as much as it’s nihilism. I’m sure the Charlie Kirk thing was true but it’s probably the spark that set off the misogynistic bomb. Like he wasn’t going out to murder libs, if that makes sense? He was looking for an excuse to murder this girl that he felt owed him sex or whatever. Real bad shit
3x the speed limit is also 8x the kinetic energy, which for a 2,000 kg vehicle is about 1 Mega-joules
*9x
You have to remember the imperial to metric conversion.
The Charlie Kirk thing is reference to comments he made while streaming after. It could just be the thing that broke him out doesn't necessarily have to be the root cause.
And what does he do? Immediately livestreams and talks about the crime like he didn’t just straight up murder them.
Isn't that a trait of serial killers? Bringing up the murder they committed to give it fame while preemptively denying any blame and attributing it to bullying.
Eh. A lot of “traits of serial killers” have extremely weak or no evidence base. AFAIK the constellation of bedwetting, setting fires, and animal abuse is the only real evidence based set of personality traits (which was still extremely weak). And even then it’s widely anecdotally repeated that any of these behaviors counts the way you describe (“he abused animals? That’s a sign of being a serial killer!!”) when the Macdonald triangle was considered a predictor with all three behaviors in conjunction.
But generally even that is considered kind of crap nowadays. predictors in the modern sense are more predictable and less salacious: significant neglect and abuse history, empathy issues, antisocial behavior, impulsivity, and narcissism. But this list is so vague (intentionally so) because it’s less about predicting “serial killers” (which is a foolish game) and more about predicting who is at risk of committing violent crime.
Qualified immunity is some high level bullshit.
Negligence should not ever be off the table to sue for.
He's the son of a cop. We're lucky he isn't just getting administrative leave.
I’m sure he’ll get a job offer to join the family business soon enough
I mean, he would fit perfectly in ICE
They really said yeah you're old enough to be responsible for driving a two tonne vehicle - but then if you use it to intentionally ram two young girls to death in cold blood now you're not old enough to be responsible for that - gotta be charged as a child.
They can always change up to adult later but it's more difficult to move from adult to minor if things go wrong.
Tell that to Trump
stalking her for months
Checks out, none of this has anything to do with charlie kirking. What a sick fuck
or jack ma-ing, they both of the same large face, but the eyes, nose mouths remain in the center.
I propose we use "kirking" to mean the act of becoming a viable candidate for the Darwin awards.
Although unfortunately Charlie himself isn't, despite the manner of his death being worthy, as he had already procreated. Perhaps if someone proves the kids aren't his..?
Arguing against gun control in a tent that reads "prove me wrong"?
Almost as smart as dressing yourself in bacon and running into a pack of hyenas.
"Bro is straight up kirking"
It means it was more of a convenient excuse than a motivator.
Ahh, so he targeted a few defenseless young females. That's about as masculine as MAGAts get
Sure. But why are you, a Ferengi, posting on Lemmy? Don't you have some profit you should be out earning? How do you plan to gain entrance to the Divine Treasury at this rate?
Also, you owe me $225 in consulting fees for posting this comment.
i am unsure how is that guy not an enemy combatant while some dude in a fishing boat off of the coast of Venezuela is an enemy combatant.
thats because those Epstein distraction boats.
Thank GOD he wasn't Trans! OTHERWISE Murdering Two Children in Revenge for your Favorite Political Figure would be BAD NEWS and TERRORISM! THIS American was just a Misguided Good Christian (UNLESS we Find out he knew a Trans Person once!)!
Another case of femicide, men killing women because they think they owe them and should be punished when they don't follow. Absolutely disgusting mindset, no wonder lots of women avoid dark alleys or travelling alone. And even that doesn't help them enough, obviously...
no wonder they dont like to hang around men in bars,. all those pickup videos i have been unfortunately been exposed to, when we had out older bro live with us, he was binging on that junk for hours on end. one trend i notice amongs the different artists, is that the women are always very uncomfortable around the men, also being filmed makes it worst(eventhough they blurred the womens identities. plus the commentary after, or before implies calling them sluts if they dont agree to "date" them.
also getting roofied, some women have brought thier friends just in case the guy trys to date rape them, or watch the guy put drugs in her drinks.
plus the commentary after, or before implies calling them sluts if they dont agree to "date" them.
Date men? Slut. Refuse to date men? Believe it or not: also slut!
The logic of those dweebs is irrefutable.
Yup. Date rape drugs are nothing new.. Old shit.
This is why - for years - I only drank beer in bottles that I could carry with me into the bathroom. Just folded a napkin over the top (it's not like girls spray like loose firehoses when we pee) and all was fine.
40 years into a relationship - now I don't drink.. God's honest, don't miss it either.
I would say avoiding dark alleys is good advice for anyone.
But where else am I going to sell watches out of my trenchcoat while chewing on a toothpick?
Do you have a gravely voice and say 'ehhh Mac? You wanna buy a watch? Genuine Rolex... dah good shit!'
Sunnydale, California.
Is trans or LGBTQ?
Yes-> You see, these people are mentally ill, he has been stalking these poor girls for months too.
No->
Is he or family democrat?
Yes-> Figures since democrats are known to endorse violence
No-> Those girls got what they deserved for talking shit about Charlie Kirk who would have forgiven that poor boy.
Problem is there is someone that believes this blatant propaganda. The common folk ARE the problem. The average human is terminaly corrupt.
We need mass gene-treatment.
I don't care if someone considers it eUgeNIcS, we need to upgrade people!
I will just make an AI coach teach me those, once I can afford AR glasses.
I don't care, starting with myself. I was trying to find what genes cause ADHD, but you can't just...do that. There's too many risks atm, unless done by professionals with expensive equipment. If you try to use a retrovirus, your immune system could react badly and kill you.
Stalking them and the family tried to get the cops to help and allegedly the cops did nothing because the father is a cop and is related to the chief.
the cops did nothing because the father is a cop
They should be charged as accessories. After all, that’s what they would do if a civilian knew about a murder plot and decided not to tell anyone about it.
Cops aren't around to protect us. That's our job.
The extent of how they reacted to Kirk's death was fucking insane. It happened right on the eve of the 24th anniversary of 9/11 and... no one on the right gave a fuck! They just forgot about it and all acts of remembrance were entirely for that fucker and not the thousands of people who died that day.
So that’s two people’s lives taken to punish them for laughing at another’s death.
So far I have not heard of any killing due to someone taking the mockery too seriously.
The condemnation of the mockery has just taken two lives. So those who think violence is never okay, their extreme, pearl clutching reaction is just as bad as mockery (or in this case worse).
According to the article, he stalked one of the girls for months. This clearly had very little to do with Charlie Kirk.
Relatives of Niiotis said the teen had been stalking her for months — something the teen suspect acknowledged on livestreams of his MLB co-op games, which attracted thousands of followers on TikTok.
Once again, we do absolutely nothing until it's too late.
Why this is not heavily covered in the news? What is going on?
Because Trump is president and mainstream news has been essentially directly threatened by him.
Idk if you noticed the extra-legal nazi takeover of USA? Are you not aware we live in a post-truth, post-law, post-rights world?
Not to naysay, the dude is a "nice guy" PoS. But the link is tenuous at best at the moment. its a clip of him saying one of the girls is a dumb ass for a tiktok video she shared that was negative towards charlie kirk.
Basically, it seems he was a stalker and killed her (and her friend) for some reason, but I doubt the kirk thing was the main reason. Motive is not clear yet, other than the obvious parts (stalking, probably liked her, but got rejected, she may have gotten a recent BF, jeolous, various anti-female other sentiments).
Because it goes against the narrative attempting to be pushed by the mainstream media i.e. Jeff Bezos, Peter Thiel, etc. They're not directly responsible for everything that makes it to the news, no, but they are quick to fine/fire any execs who go against their mission, so eventually only sycophants and cowards remain
Two words: Brendan Carr.
It took Trump little time to install a department head that would use the FCC to interfere in corporate mergers and acquisitions - like the Soviet Union of old would (but the GOP's not communist - oh, no.. not at al!) - and as the corporations that own the broadcast are held hostage to the FCC.. Welp.. there it is.
he was stalking the girl, he was upset because he didn't get his way... he found an excuse to harm her... it wasn't because he was Maga, it was because she didn't see how perfect he was for her or some bullshit like that
Both are symptoms of the same mental illness
The alt-right is certainly targeting men, so it is correlated, but I think it’s important to note that these girls were targeted because of their gender first and foremost. The ‘Charlie Kirk’ aspect was just the excuse provided by the perpetrator. There’s a deeper issue at play and should be acknowledged.
I’ve never been truly stalked before, but I started working early and naively had a picture on OKCupid (when it was new and all the rage) when I was 18. I had a guy I never actually talked to show up at my work and seek me out. I was 18 and dumb, but I’m glad I learned that lesson. It could have been so much worse.
Im mentally ill, I never stalked or killed anyone, whats your point?
Days before the deadly crash, while hosting an online baseball game live-streamed on YouTube on Sept. 23, the suspect talks about sending a pizza to "Maria's house" by using his old iPhone as a burner because his number had been blocked. The suspect says he will order the pizza for cash on delivery.
"I think Maria's hungry. I think we're going to send her two pizzas. So you all know I have a vengeance against this girl for accusing me of sending porn and s**t. I'm going to call a pizza to her house."
He also says Maria's mother has a "stupid f**kin' name and accused her of reporting the porn.
"So Fouli, you made a bad decision making a bad name of myself. You made a bad decision having this girl return to that school without me being there," the teen says on the video, referencing the girl's mother.
Someone watching the stream suggests he go to the house and watch the pizza be delivered. He rejected the idea because the mother called the police before.
read the whole article, the guy was a fucking pig and a creep, being egged on by a livestream "community" of creeps and pigs.
Don't throw a no context "oh he's just mentally ill" with no further comment, you make me sick
You're certainly reading a lot into my comment that I didn't say.
This is the sociopathy of the alt-right. I said nothing about all mental illness in general.
people can have ASPD & still use cognitive empathy & never harm people. not to mention how this murderer wasn't diagnosed with anything like ASPD or NPD etc.
if someone's a vile, cruel, misogynistic, racist, murderer, we can just call them that. we can get creative with our insults without letting an already vulnerable population catch any strays.
I'm just sick of everything having to be about the left, right, Democrats, or Republicans... why can't it just be about a stalker who was allowed to cause harm to somebody because nobody took actions to stop it
Probably because of all the stochastic terrorism
because mental ilness and beinf far right has been proven again in many studies, stop trying to "this is not a conservative thing" Democrats overwhelming dont do mass shootings, or murders like this.
I'll never understand what do Trump cultists/Kirk stans get out of being empathy deprived peons. They present the other side as weak but they are either in collectives with rapists, abusers or murders. That loser cut those two girls lives short for nothing.
A lot of unravel here.
They assume the position of the victim. The victim is not responsible for their action, they're just defending.
They love the position of power. They fetishize the power. They see that the power rules the world (which is hard to deny) and they treat it as a sacred entity, even if the power doesn't lead to the ruling. It's like the famous weird scene from Starship Troopers where kids were contributing in war by smashing small earthly roaches.
They just want to conform, to be recognized as the part of the society. They're afraid to be abandoned.
Overall, it could be 1, 2, 3, 1+2, 1+3.
Guy shared a much closer cultural tie to Tyler Robinson than he did with the people he killed. From a family involved in law enforcement, from a culture of guns and hate. Unlike Tyler Robinson, the guy will probably get the George Zimmerman treatment because it's not where it's coming from but whom it affects. US in a nutshell.
He was just doing politics the right way... /S
Fucking pig
More link
Those links are not good sources, read these ones instead:
Should be charged as an adult with only seeing the picture of the jeep and bike, jfc
What dumbass country is this where you can drive a jeep the size of a tank without being an adult?
I'll be siting over here eating popcorn waiting for the wacko right wing politicians trying to twist this into "an assault from the left"
that's like two more people than the guy who shot Charlie?! wtf
Instant. Death. Penalty. We're heading towards 10 billion on the planet in 25 years, we simply don't have the room to entertain these defectives. Call it eugenics if you want, and that's exactly what it is and what we need. Too. Bad. Boo. Hoo.
Right, uh huh, no innocents were ever hurt by state murder so it’s all good then, you say?
Right, and no innocents were ever hurt by releasing violent nutters? "State murder", what do you call sending soldiers overseas in your latest democracy spreading experiments?
but you're using a tiny site instead of the huge eugenicist site
I honestly don't understand the problem with eugenics. We improve everything else, for sure I would change a few things about myself, and I don't have kids because I don't want my garbage DNA in other people. What's wrong with that?
Welcome to the blocklist
They're an idiot and I don't agree with them. I want to make that very clear. I just want to know your thought process by telling them you're blocking them? Like, what are you expecting to accomplish?
Modelling behaviour for the noobs, I’m guessing.
Where are all these fake leftist who were crying over Charlie Kirk now? /s
A shit load of psuedo-leftists commentators were going full mask off liberal or even conservative when Kirk died, and were demonizing their own base for celebrating it
Lots of tiktok "leftists" like Dean or GoodTrouble.
Youtubers like Jacqueline Glenn and H3H3
You are all going to keep losing as you double down in your psychosis
Dude you're in here rage posting about platform moderation in support of some loser kid who ran over two girls. If anyone's got pyschosis it's you.
i mean one of his other comments, is blaming"liberals" for all the recent mass shootings, and murders. which are perpetrated by the right. i feel like some conservative troll accounts are slipping through these instances.
Let's stop calling them "trolls". It was cute when someone with extra time slightly annoyed a person to their amusement.
But these are like... concentrated national efforts at disseminating disinformation & propaganda.
Not so cute anymore.
Dude, has your mom, like, ever told you to shut the fuck up? You should learn to shut the fuck up.
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What's extra fucked up is before the murder happened the family tried to get help from the police but they didn't do anything because the MAGA psycho is from a cop family.
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