EPA just approved new ‘forever chemical’ pesticides for use on food

7 months ago by Tony Bark to c/news

The agency approved two new pesticides that will be used on vegetables such as romaine lettuce, broccoli, and potatoes.

The Environmental Protection Agency is moving forward with approvals for pesticides containing “forever chemicals” as an active ingredient, dismissing concerns about health and environmental impacts raised by some scientists and activists.

This month, the agency approved two new pesticides that meet the internationally recognized definition for per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, also known as PFAS or fluorinated substances, and has announced plans for four additional approvals. The authorized pesticides, cyclobutrifluram and isocycloseram, which was approved Thursday, will be used on vegetables such as romaine lettuce, broccoli and potatoes.

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ObtuseDoorFrame 111 points 7 months ago

...they're giving me cancer while simultaneously quadrupling my health insurance payments. My government has decided to kill me.

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Treczoks 18 points 7 months ago

Only if you are poor. That's the goal.

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Zron 14 points 7 months ago

Only poor people eat produce and drink water?

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Treczoks 13 points 7 months ago

Rich people have organic food and water filters.

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Zron 12 points 7 months ago

Are there any water filters that are proven to filter PFAS?

And what about irrigation water that is contaminated and sprayed on the organic crops?

I get the rich people hate, but this does feel like an issue that will impact literally everyone. Once something is in the water cycle it’s hard to get rid of it.

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Fedizen 6 points 7 months ago

You can't filter out PFAS from the food chain.

Agricultural runoff gets into water supplies. In water supplies it gets used for irrigation, drinking water for animals, or goes out to sea.

In each case forever chemicals will just build up.

So even like that wagyu beef or wild caught fish eventually is just poisoning you.

Plus PFAS are notorious for being difficult to filter and when they do break down they break down into smaller halomethanes/haloalkanes which are also typically toxic and even harder to filter conventionally. The main way to eliminate halomethanes is to bubble water to evaporate them into the air. A slow process which will make the contaminants airborne.

Of course what does it matter if you get a new beach house courtesy of Bayer or Monsanto

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Fedizen 4 points 7 months ago

I have bad news about forever chemicals for whatever dumbass thinks this will only affect poor people.

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zd9 2 points 7 months ago

Nah, the wealthy can use extremely expensive cutting edge filtering methods that remove all PFAS chemicals. I've done a whole research project on this. There are a handful of different methods, it's just that it's prohibitively expensive to scale up.

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P00ptart 2 points 7 months ago

And if you're not poor, they'll make you poor.

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xxce2AAb 56 points 7 months ago

I'm sure that'll work wonders for US agricultural exports. /s

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Arancello 45 points 7 months ago

As if we need another reason to boycott mercan food. They are explicit about poisoning people now!

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Treczoks 19 points 7 months ago

That's the reason why the EU only imports very selected kinds of food from the US. And even then, most of those are specially produced for export.

  • Among the thousands of beef farmers in the US, there is only a handful certified for export to Europe.
  • Kelloggs produces two kinds of Fruit Loops: One for the US market, and the other for export, which does not contain the chemicals that are illegal even in China of all places.
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HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 4 points 7 months ago

At least my state has lots of warning labels ready

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KingOfSleep 38 points 7 months ago

Environmental Poisoning Agency

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phoenixz 37 points 7 months ago

Every country in the world should ban food from the US.

I'm sorry if you're American, you're fucked, but it's what you guys voted for. The rest of the world should try and save itself

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Scolding7300 18 points 7 months ago
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W3dd1e 16 points 7 months ago

As an American I agree, I don’t trust our government to do the right thing and big corporations run all our farms. I don’t trust them to do the right thing either.

Unfortunately, that shit gets into the water and makes its way everywhere.

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__ghost__ 2 points 7 months ago

Most don't vote at all

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phoenixz 1 point 7 months ago

That is their mistake

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IsoKiero 2 points 7 months ago

The "fun" part is that 'forever chemicals' really are what they're claiming to be on the label. Practically every living thing on the planet has some PFAS stuff in their body. Veritasium made a video about that a while back.

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M1ch431 32 points 7 months ago

Why are people mostly silent about this shit?

Please, please, please start spreading this awareness with everybody you know!

From the article:

The agency also announced plans to relax a rule requiring companies to report all products containing PFAS and has proposed weakening drinking water standards for the chemicals.

So they are deliberately trying to cover up the pollution crisis in the US.

https://www.ewg.org/...

We test for, regulate, and monitor about 100 chemicals in our water. There are many, many thousands of chemicals that could be present in our water and harming our health.

Related:

https://www.theguardian.com/...

https://www.ewg.org/...

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Formfiller 4 points 7 months ago

Because everyday all day we’re bombarded by evil atrocities our government is committing on us and others and they dgaf what we think. We’re tired. It’s looking more and more like the entire world needs to overthrow the wealthy in solidarity

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MantisToboggon 30 points 7 months ago

Who wants to live to old age anyways?

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Witchfire 30 points 7 months ago

And that's gonna slowly make its way into Canada and Mexico, yay, the US is a toxic dump site

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Fedizen 20 points 7 months ago

I feel like states should just ban this shit.

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zd9 4 points 7 months ago

What a fantastic idea. I'm sure no one has pushed for that.

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Fedizen 1 point 7 months ago

I mean I've seen GMO labels so people have gotten some far less useful stuff regulated

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wirebeads 19 points 7 months ago

Americans are fucking twats. What a pathetic excuse for a country they’ve become.

oh well.

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tornavish 48 points 7 months ago

Well, considering the news that a large portion of the maga online influencers are actually from foreign countries, I think maybe it’s not just their own doing…

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CIA_chatbot 42 points 7 months ago

You think the forces that did this to us aren’t targeting your country? You’re in for some fun times ahead

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zd9 2 points 7 months ago

listen to this guy, he's a CIA chatbot so he knows what he's talking about

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Fedizen 2 points 7 months ago

Keir Starmer will be drinking the PFAS gravy anyday now.

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ObtuseDoorFrame 18 points 7 months ago

You fucking loser, kicking people while they're down. I've been voting against this shit my entire life.

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TeamAssimilation 5 points 7 months ago

I think voting is not enough, people need to get active politically, ideally with other parties than blue or red.

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MasterBlaster 4 points 7 months ago

In the USA all other political parties are effectively barred from participation. The barriers are high the costs are worse.

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zd9 1 point 7 months ago

That's why there are so many pushes to get RCV on the books. Also why many Republican-controlled states are preemptively banning it, because they know they'd never get power again if it was a truly open and fair primary/general. Some establishment Democrats are trying to ban it too because they also benefit by the duopoly.

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SabinStargem 18 points 7 months ago

Now, I am not a very eco-friendly kind of person...but I don't trust the Trump Regime to not fuck up. Their approvals here will almost certainly kill people, and probably wouldn't even benefit capitalists in the long run.

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MasterBlaster 18 points 7 months ago

Of course they did. Trump ended the EPA months ago. Think "invasion of the body snatchers" but for government.

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ZILtoid1991 6 points 7 months ago

What MAHA is thinking about this?

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madjo 5 points 7 months ago

You assume that they are thinking in the first place.

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bitjunkie 2 points 7 months ago

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MangioneDontMiss 6 points 7 months ago

i am so glad i already have a terminal illness. this world is fucked.

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SlippiHUD 4 points 7 months ago

Taking the fluoride out of the water and putting it directly into your food.

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Dorkyd68 4 points 7 months ago

Never trust anything the fda says or does. Ever. Its a for sale organization.

I got into an argument the other day with someone cause I said Americas food is poison. And they said i was simply trash talking America with no proof. No proof? Uhhhhhh

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PattyMcB 4 points 7 months ago

The article is about the EPA, though

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NotMyOldRedditName 2 points 7 months ago

EPA: You can poison food now!

Mega Corps: Thanks for the heads up, but we won't!

Like that would ever happen.

This is telling mega corps they can freely poison people for money now.

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PattyMcB 2 points 7 months ago

Absolutely, but the comment I replied to mentioned the FDA. Completely different entity

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IronBird 2 points 7 months ago

that statement applies equally to both

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AnimalsDream 3 points 7 months ago

I know prices can be prohibitive, but the more we can buy organic, the better. It's the only alternative agricultural method that has gained enough commercial traction that, if it ever does become popular enough, has the possibility of making the pesticide-dependent model infeasible as a business model.

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Scolding7300 2 points 7 months ago
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AnimalsDream 1 point 7 months ago

I have skepticisms about the accuracy of that claim. Measuring yield isn't necessarily cut and dry in the first place.

Big picture, conventional agriculture is not sustainable, and moreover, we are always going to continue having these toxic pollutions occur so long as we continue to depend on conventional ag. The only way to stop the poison is to stop taking the poison.

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AmericanEconomicThinkTank 2 points 7 months ago

:(

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Sunflier 1 point 7 months ago

Eat the poison you filthy pleabs.

-The EPA on behalf of the rich donors

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Scolding7300 1 point 7 months ago
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PeePantsMcGee 2 points 7 months ago

I'm using free protonvpn and it loaded fine

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