Another angle of this modern art installation

7 months ago by Track_Shovel to c/lemmyshitpost

idegenszavak 148 points 7 months ago

This is one of the most complex levels

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FireRetardant 30 points 7 months ago

As soon as I saw the image this is exactly what I started doing in my head.

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Aneb 1 point 7 months ago

I finished this in 8 moves? Not that hard

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 57 points 7 months ago

Factorio players had this solved forever ago

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psx_crab 22 points 7 months ago

No they don't. They still have nightmare of item contamination.

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JelleWho 8 points 7 months ago

Should have used filters...

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ragas 1 point 7 months ago

Usa a semaphore.

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Lemminary 11 points 7 months ago

Tbf, they also have the arthropod invasion sorted out.

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BlueMagma 4 points 7 months ago

And now pentapods too

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StuffYouFear 3 points 7 months ago

I did, then spaceage broke all my old intersection templates

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I'm still a bit irked about that. But the new system is good at least.

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MintyFresh 37 points 7 months ago

I'm sorry, but this looked super easy to un fuck. The bottom driver just had to pull forward a bit and to the right, enough for the guy on the right to get through. I don't think they were "stuck" so much as this was a cool photo with a click baity title.

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agavaa 50 points 7 months ago

They were stuck for 10 minutes and needed to be directed from the outside. It's maybe not that long, but they struggled with figuring it out. Source (in Norwegian, this happened in Oslo): https://www.vg.no/...

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vodka 16 points 7 months ago

Guy that went and directed them said they were stuck for a total of 3 minutes.

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agavaa 12 points 7 months ago

It took him 3 minutes to direct them start to finish, but they were stuck for total of 10 minutes. He didn't start directing them the second they were stuck.

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stepan 2 points 7 months ago

there are probably cars there facing the bottom bus, no? it's the enter lane, not an exit lane

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dual_sport_dork 1 point 7 months ago

It is, but none of the four bus drivers have all of the information. You will also need two or three cops or at least guys in fluorescent vests to physically block traffic from entering the circle and or bitch-slap selfish asshats as necessary until the Gordian knot of buses is untied, otherwise said selfish asshats will try to barge into the intersection the second the first bus moves and start everything all over again.

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PunnyName 1 point 7 months ago

Also, fewer cars will help.

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kossa 3 points 7 months ago

No, it's clearly the fault of the buses. So defunding public transport it is!

- every politician probably

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jqubed 28 points 7 months ago

I’m very curious about who screwed up first

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papalonian 58 points 7 months ago

I think it was a combined, synchronized effort

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kubica 36 points 7 months ago

Apes together stuck.

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ThePantser 22 points 7 months ago

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Track_Shovel 12 points 7 months ago

Bus on left hand side of screen sealed the deal, but it was a concerted effort of fuckery

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marcos 9 points 7 months ago

Each one of them screwed up independently. It takes a concerted effort to reach this situation.

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Arcane2077 5 points 7 months ago

I don’t know what’s going on in this picture, but, whatever it is, being accidental is last on my list of possible explanations

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Johanno 4 points 7 months ago

In my opinion the stupid bus that entered the round about when already 3 buses where in there.

I mean get that there was space, but man you could have waited 20 seconds and everything would have been fine.

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olafurp 4 points 7 months ago

It's a deadlock situation and can arise without any screw ups. Imagine the buses being 5x as long and all reach the intersection at the same time as an example. All have space to enter the roundabout but they'll reach the same situation as in the picture.

To fix this people uses signals and can be done by having the buses follow "Only 1 or 2 articulated (double) buses are allowed into the roundabout at a time". A rule like that might be required if you have a lot of articulated buses. The risk of this happening depends on how many ways you can enter a roundabout no a bus like that, how long the buses are, how frequently they run and how big the roundabout is.

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Griffus 3 points 7 months ago

1 of 2. Either the car drivers going on the inside of the busses, hindering them enough space to make the turns, or the bus drivers allowing it to happen.

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Asinus 26 points 7 months ago

I like that there is already an idiot on the top-left road who passed the whole trafficjam on the wrong side of the road (because "I am special") and is now also stuck there because there was a reason for everybody to not move foreward

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Agent641 12 points 7 months ago

Kinda looks like a cop to me

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Asinus 3 points 7 months ago

Might be. I don't remember seeing any police when I was in Norway, but the internet-pictures kindof match.

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eta 17 points 7 months ago

I still get nightmares from thinking that placing a nice roundabout in Cities Skylines will improve my traffic only to come back later to see a huge traffic jam because the cars are blocking each other.

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mirshafie 18 points 7 months ago

Honestly I've never heard about a roundabout traffic jam before seeing the picture of the Norwegian four-way bus lock a couple of days ago, followed by this example right here.

I think Cities Skylines is either badly programmed or propaganda for Big Intersection.

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Johanno 6 points 7 months ago

Yes

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tehevilone 3 points 7 months ago

Basegame CS's traffic system is notably bad - if you wanted anything realistic you needed mods to change it. No clue how CS2's plays, but I can't imagine it'd be much better.

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zqps 3 points 7 months ago

It's not. Roundabouts work better than intersections.

The whole game can even be read as propaganda against car-centric traffic management, because road planning just becomes a nightmare at some point that incentivizes you heavily to diversify into public transportation and even walkable city blocks.

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kelpie_returns 15 points 7 months ago
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ryannathans 30 points 7 months ago

Buses stuck

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kelpie_returns 9 points 7 months ago
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somerandomperson 16 points 7 months ago

bus #1 needs to move so bus #2 can move
bus #2 needs to move so bus #3 can move
bus #3 needs to move so bus #4 can move
bus #4 needs to move so bus #1 can move

i n f i n i t e l o o p

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jaybone 13 points 7 months ago

It we’re forcing a programming analogy, I’d go with deadlock over loop.

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kelpie_returns 2 points 7 months ago
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falseWhite 5 points 7 months ago
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UltraGiGaGigantic 1 point 7 months ago

Step bus, what are you doing!??

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BilboTBaggin 12 points 7 months ago

This is what my trains in satisfactory do :,)

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Almacca 12 points 7 months ago

Red ring of death.

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Siegfried 11 points 7 months ago

When your factorio base logistics collapse and you have to manually unfuck the train system

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NarrativeBear 8 points 7 months ago

It does not look like any bus screwed up to me. It looks scary ya I agree, but I'm sure watching this play out was very mundane and efficient.

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Evil_Shrubbery 5 points 7 months ago

Solution: goatse roundabout

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Griffus 2 points 7 months ago

Alexander Kiellands Plass will never not be a traffic nightmare.

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ArfArfWoof 1 point 7 months ago

We do a little trollino-ing.

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Zwiebel 1 point 7 months ago
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Treczoks 1 point 7 months ago

That is what, six years old?

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ugjka 4 points 7 months ago

happened again

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Ilovethebomb 1 point 7 months ago

Do not enter the intersection unless the exit is clear.

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falseWhite 20 points 7 months ago
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Ilovethebomb -3 points 7 months ago

The same rules apply to a roundabout where I live, if the exit isn't clear, you don't enter.

People do it all the time and block the roundabout, but you're not supposed to.

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theneverfox 5 points 7 months ago

Are you sure you're not talking about a traffic circle?

Roundabouts have specific rules, not every circular intersection is a roundabout

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falseWhite 4 points 7 months ago
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Ilovethebomb -3 points 7 months ago

You do understand that a roundabout is an intersection, right?

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vodka 7 points 7 months ago

If all four arrived and entered at the exact same time, the exit might have been clear for all four.

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Ilovethebomb 3 points 7 months ago

Possibly, but I think they all thought they could fit through.

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vodka 3 points 7 months ago

It's also the second time it's happened in this roundabout in a few months lol

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BlueMagma 1 point 7 months ago

Maybe they could simply délay one of them by a minute to prevent them arriving at the same time, just change the time planning

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Swordinferno 1 point 7 months ago

Jacques Tati did it better

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NullPointerException -1 points 7 months ago
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Lootboblin -8 points 7 months ago
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Iseja 13 points 7 months ago

Why though? If you zoom in you can see that they're literally filled with people and allow easier/quicker stops as they have many doors. If you actually plan their routes they work quite well.

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mirshafie 6 points 7 months ago

This can be fixed by the drivers paying extra attention in front of them when entering a roundabout.

When you enter a roundabout you need to be clear from the left, that's normally all you need to worry about. In this case because the buses are so long, the bus that locks them is in front of them when they enter, and there's another bus to the right. This should be clearly visible.

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victorz 2 points 7 months ago

Definitely bus drivers' error. They are the big vehicles, they are the ones who need to pay extra attention to whether or not they will fit anywhere.

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