Half-Life 3 Reportedly Delayed Due to Steam Machine Price, Leak Claims

10 months ago by themachinestops to c/technology

Valve's uncertainty over the Steam Machine price might have delayed the announcement of Half-Life 3, according to a new leak.

A new leak claims that a Half-Life 3 announcement might have been delayed due to the Steam Machine price. According to the insider, Valve is still trying to determine the console’s cost due to skyrocketing hardware component prices, such as RAM.

10MeterFeldweg 189 points 10 months ago

Curse this "AI" shit!

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just_an_average_joe 56 points 10 months ago

Curse the profit maxxing capitalism behind AI, if it wasn't AI, it would have been something else

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jaybone 7 points 10 months ago

I suppose that’s one way to look at it. Is this … optimism?

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umbrella 5 points 10 months ago
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hayvan 168 points 10 months ago

Half-Life 3 being ruines by tech bros wasn't in my bingo card but I'm not surprised at this point.

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bizzle 50 points 10 months ago

Tech Bros ruin everything 🤷‍♀️

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Tim_Bisley 14 points 10 months ago

Hatred towards tech bros somehow increased even higher.

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hayvan 5 points 10 months ago

Good

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nialv7 108 points 10 months ago

if valve is waiting for ram price to come down then steam machine won't be released until 2028....

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Infernal_pizza 40 points 10 months ago

It won't ever be released, prices are never coming back down

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themachinestops 31 points 10 months ago

Lets have hope, if the AI bubble bursts prices will go down.

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woelkchen 35 points 10 months ago

Or they keep the prices up because consumers got used to them.

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themachinestops 41 points 10 months ago

I don't think I can get used to $1000 64 GB Ram.

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jerkface 2 points 10 months ago

It's not like RAM has never been this expensive before. It's still at a historically low price.

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PerogiBoi 15 points 10 months ago

The US government has a financial vested interest in the AI bubble. They will artificially keep the bubble going. The AI bubble collapses when American society and government collapses.

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cmbabul 26 points 10 months ago

Don’t threaten me with a good time

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 11 points 10 months ago

The United States has less and less influence on the world every day.

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chocrates 3 points 10 months ago

If it bursts the ram will be on graphic card in a warehouse somewhere. We still will need to ramp back up consumer production I assume.

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ulterno 2 points 10 months ago

Are they using the same ICs in the AI modules as they are in DIMMs?

If yes, then we can still hope for some level of a 2nd hand market, which may at least manage to be lower than the max at that point.

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Dran_Arcana 10 points 10 months ago

Not the same chips, but ddr5, gddr7, and hbm2 are made off the same wafers in the same plants. The issue is allocation in wafer and production time skewing towards the higher-margin items. DDR5 additionally is being made more into the server ecc variant, which companies are buying in droves for cost-efficient MOE inference.

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de_lancre 1 point 10 months ago
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bollybing 4 points 10 months ago

ARM doesn't belong to Nvidia. They tried to buy it a few years ago and failed. Its majority owned by a Japanese conglomerate.

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A_Random_Idiot 1 point 10 months ago

Nah, it'd bring prices crashing down as the market gets flooded with all the used hardware from the AI data centers being cleared out and auctioned off in bulk lots by bankruptcy courts and debt collectors, leading people to buy them by the truck loads and put on ebay for pennies on the original retail dollar.

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UnculturedSwine 93 points 10 months ago

Never thought I would be expressing accelerationist views but rn I just want the crash to happen. AI is bullshit and the sooner everyone realizes that the better.

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cardfire 37 points 10 months ago

Programmer buddy of mine was telling me their theory that AI is the last hurrah of Big Tech and Venture Capital, shifting a patient that has been in place since most of us were children.

Even after the Dot Bomb area is the 2000's, FinTech taking it in the chin in the 2008 global financial crisis, three meaningful Crypto rises and falls, and now AI, there's always been some new for train to institute and sell to the retail investor and the general public.

The beleaguered finances of middle classes pretty much everywhere, hand in hand with the deleted brain trusts from AI making us really dumb and unconfident (or falsely confident), convinced with the lack of new productivity borne from these last few market cycles (AI and Crypto not actually doing much for the majority of humans commensurate with the hype) results in a possible chance for actual market accountability and seeing only genuine market growth.

I think that megacrash and the world waking up to the marketing machine is considerably less likely, but agree with them (given their best experience in FinTech) that it might meaningfully end our collective beliefs that Silicon Valley can steer everyone towards brighter shores.

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AnarchistArtificer 15 points 10 months ago

I don't remember where I heard it, but a phrase I quite like is "AI is the death drive of capitalism"

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bridgeenjoyer 3 points 10 months ago

They think there's nothing else left so yes its the death throes of capitalism.

How about actually building good devices again? Devices we actually own that arent filled with spyware, and that are repairable and moddable by us. Or good software/os's. This is the problem with capitalism. It does not breed innovation.

But no. You'll own nothing and be happy. The ruling class cannot let us own anything ever again.

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murvel 6 points 10 months ago

Even after the Dot Bomb area is the 2000's

Pardon?

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cardfire 4 points 10 months ago

Even after the Dot Bomb era in 2000-2002 and beyond.

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nutsack 1 point 10 months ago

what in the fuck does ai have to do with this post

edit: oh its the hardware prices. yea

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witty_username 72 points 10 months ago
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Broken 63 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah, hardware prices are what's preventing HL3 from coming out. Sure.

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Shayeta 8 points 10 months ago

I'm guessing they want to bundle it with the machine and have it as a sort of "demo" game.

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A_Random_Idiot 4 points 10 months ago

Which isnt unprecedented.. they did the same thing with Alyx and Index, didnt they?

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bitjunkie 2 points 10 months ago

Similar thing with Orange Box back in the day, too

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A_Random_Idiot 2 points 10 months ago

the orange box wasnt released along side any steam hardware? that i can recall at least.

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_stranger_ 63 points 10 months ago

yes of course. HL3 is being delayed because something in the future is exploding backwards through time and fucking everything up. This is the only explanation I choose to accept.

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Barbarian 17 points 10 months ago

The GMan has broken containment and is now wandering through our timeline, inserting people into the right points to change the future. I guess this explains the whacky wild ride we're currently on.

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RampantParanoia2365 7 points 10 months ago

Game is delayed because they couldn't tell people about it on a stage. This sounds logical.

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zebidiah 5 points 10 months ago

"All good things..."

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Kolanaki 51 points 10 months ago

Game journalists need to hit a quota; quick, start a HL3 rumor for clicks!

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melfie 50 points 10 months ago
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jnod4 5 points 10 months ago

Linux as a gaming machine dream gets destroyed by ram prices..

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gwl 42 points 10 months ago path: 0 21145436, hotness: undefined, score: 42, children: 0
lukonko 27 points 10 months ago

This is just straight cope. HL3 isn't coming out anytime soon.

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Karjalan 8 points 10 months ago

I'm confused, was there any expectation it would that I missed? As far as I know half life is dead. They never even finished episode 3 of half life 2 from like two decades ago.

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samus12345 10 points 10 months ago

Half-Life Alyx proves it's not totally dead. It even retconned an important plot point, which would make sense to do if they're planning to continue the story in some way.

There are persistent rumors that Valve is planning to release it alongside the Steam Machine.

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kinther 7 points 10 months ago

There has been a lot of data mining in the past few months that indicates they are working on something that has yet to be released, which is very likely a Half Life game. I've been watching the HLX Files series by Tyler McVicker for a while as he sticks to just facts without much hype.

https://www.youtube.com/@TylerMcVicker1/videos

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lukonko 1 point 10 months ago

Right

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psx_crab 23 points 10 months ago

Pic or it never happened.

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grahamja 21 points 10 months ago

Please Gabe sell a special edition orange one for half life 3.

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ClassyHatter 39 points 10 months ago

Are you asking them to release an... Orange Box?

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Nugscree 3 points 10 months ago

Would be pretty cool to have the Orange Box have a copy of the Orange Box preinstalled

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Lee 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah and it'd be cool if they threw in a couple other games to show its versatility. HL3 of course, but a multiplayer game and maybe a unique puzzle game would be a good mix of game types.

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A_Random_Idiot 2 points 10 months ago

Orange Box 2, Which is a computer and contains no sequels to anything that was in The Orange Box

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vermaterc 19 points 10 months ago

Hopium administered

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HollowNaught 18 points 10 months ago

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HertzDentalBar 18 points 10 months ago

Half life 3 won't happen.

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alias_qr_rainmaker 17 points 10 months ago
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hOrni 13 points 10 months ago

So that's why it takes so long.

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woelkchen 12 points 10 months ago

A few weeks ago journalists said that complete systems will not be affected short term because OEMs order RAM and SSDs a year in advance.

So what is it?

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dustyData 23 points 10 months ago

It is a Vice article. It has the journalistic credibility of a dirty wet wipe.

Edit: Lol, the source is an off the cuff remark of Mike Straw on a podcast. The same Dude has been teasing this news of an alleged leak since November and produced not a single shred of evidence while being an asshat on xitter about it at the same time. This is not the first time this guy speculates over future games and is taken out of context by fans.

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plantfanatic 3 points 10 months ago

You won’t be able to order the next batch unless you charge the increase in the first as you won’t have the funds.

Just because a journalist says something doesn’t mean it’s even remotely true.

Basic economics.

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bryndos 2 points 10 months ago

It'll depend on the futures contracts. They'll have price clauses and, get-out clauses , resale clauses and stuff, so it'll come down to lawyering.

It's unlikely that journos know the contract details. Buy clearly any OEM without a futures contract already in place does not have access to low prices.

And any OEM with cheap stock and contractual freedom to resell would seriously consider parting out and selling off stock at the windfall price.

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Tiger_Man_ 11 points 10 months ago

Hopium administrated

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NotMyOldRedditName 11 points 10 months ago

Give it another week and the ram for the steam machine will cost more than the whole steam machine the day it was announced.

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Bonesince1997 10 points 10 months ago

Bundle it with Star Citizen

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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 3 points 10 months ago

And Beyond Good & Evil 2.

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Naz 1 point 10 months ago

You uh, that's all three wishes, you sure you don't want something more traditional, like world peace or something?

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snooggums 10 points 10 months ago

My default assumption at this point is that HL3 is not real, and this is all a cope.

Nice

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Cassa 9 points 10 months ago

lol

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BeigeAgenda 8 points 10 months ago

Don't get my hopes up, especially if what they eventually release is in Duke Nukem Forever quality.

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melfie 6 points 10 months ago
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zqwzzle 7 points 10 months ago

I’m ready to be hurt again.

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magic_lobster_party 7 points 10 months ago

Why bundle HL3 as launch title? Feels a bit too much to develop the most memed game ever + trying to figure out the logistics of 3 new hardware products at the same time. People won’t exactly rush to buy Steam Machine for HL3 if they already have a decent PC.

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bryndos 16 points 10 months ago

Because it's not actually "half life three". It's (half life)^3. One of the hardware constraints is that has to be played on something cubic.

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snooggums 4 points 10 months ago

Having a plan and external pressures wrecking the whole thing has some strong Aliens^3 vibes, so that checks out.

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ulterno 1 point 10 months ago

Maybe they just realised in time about the upcoming RAM price hike and setup both to each other, so that either one becomes an excuse for the other.

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Gsus4 7 points 10 months ago

Lol, half-life 3...the end really must be near!!!

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Konstant 5 points 10 months ago

X Doubt

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RampantParanoia2365 4 points 10 months ago

It is kind of funny how the title says one thing, and then the very next sentence says loljk, just the announcement, which has obviously zero things in common with development.

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azvasKvklenko 4 points 10 months ago

HL3 announcement before GTA VI release?

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KingThrillgore 1 point 10 months ago

So the leaks were always bullshit.

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titanicx -3 points 10 months ago

Suckers 

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fyldtestlemmyaccount -5 points 10 months ago
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LuigiMaoFrance -8 points 10 months ago

Who cares about HL3 at this point. Fuck Valve.

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