I recently rewatched the original and had forgotten just how well they portray her evil. Even as an adult I was actively repulsed the same way I would be if I met her in real life. Classic Disney definitely had some incredible villain writing.

Yep and they do that by making it not even believably the same character.

Cruella was excellent, in my opinion of course 😁

Yeah and it's pretty good I thought. Shits on the old story but I care not.

Gotta make content for new fascist taking over America. Everybody else will be in the famous American prison system in a short while, no need to make content for them.

The movie itself is excellent. However there is one horrible almost meme like scene where dalmatians run into a fancy party and kill Cruella's mother. If you ignore that scene, it's a great movie.

Ah, a player of Dwarf Fortress.

Gotta genocide anybody who opposes... That's real entrepreneurship.

You miss 101% of the shots you don't take.

Just 100 Dalmatians for her

Weirdly, there's a relevant XKCD that summarizes this really quite well:

I don't get why it's always assumed that a particular character is intended to represent an entire gender or race.

I really want a world where we can safely set up characters for moments of failure, evil, etc, without large crowds either feeling offended, feigning offense, or worse, taking it as validation of their bigotry.

It's a real Heads-I-Win / Tails-You-Lose game, because the White Male Anti-Hero gets the exact opposite treatment. If you make a Sopranos or a Wolf of Wall Street or a Fight Club, the very obviously corrupt and villainous lead character somehow ends up being this celebrity icon for reactionaries.

The same people complaining that John Boyega and Daisy Ridley ruined Star Wars will come out cheering for Adam Driver while claiming Imperialism is cool now.

Anything that makes a story exciting or different - the ups and downs of the story arc, characters with personal flaws or quirks, foreign settings and distinct cultures, non-English languages, non-CisHet romances - become at once implicit indictments of the out groups and charming complements toward the in-groups.

And a lot of that just boils down to the critics themselves. Far-right media amplifying its megaphone year after year, until we're deaf from their screamed opinions. There's no right answer for a film maker or story writer when the designated state-sanctioned censors and corporate flaks are all patriarchal white nationalists.

The movie Tallulah, I watched it completely hungover and one thing I noticed is that there is only 1 guy in the movie and he solves EVERYTHING by just being the only rational person. There's a lot of things happening between all the girls in the movie but there is one angle where it really looks like "girls crazy, man rational"

Yeah this tends to also create the problem a lot of writers fall into when having a more diverse cast where non white cis male characters come off as too perfect. They can't make mistakes, big or small, cause they're worried about the examples you gave (not saying you're implying this). I know I've heard from a lot of people on the topic of representation that they'd loveless perfect representation, but that's a hard thing to walk especially if funds aren't allocated to maybe get a consultant on the team that could help represent that group without it being stereotyped.

I really want a world where we can safely set up characters for moments of failure, evil, etc, without large crowds either feeling offended, feigning offense, or worse, taking it as validation of their bigotry.

Yes, the world would be much better without racism, sexism, etc. That's why we resist.

How else are you going to do another pre-prequel where we find out the villain-coded woman of that movie was herself just a strong female and a product of harsh circumstances?

Yeah, sounds like capitalism to me

I understand their liking of her. Ursula basically makes a living taking advantage of insecure and/or highly vulnerable people and giving them extremely disadvantageous contracts and approaching them in their most vulnerable moment.

In short, she is everything what every grifter is to a T.

Username relevant.

Its definitely an extension of 4chan as much as it is reddit.
Neither of those are beating the accusations though.

What the fu... oh, a lemmy.ml account, never mind.