Trump promised RFK Jr. would ‘restore faith in American health care.’ A year in, trust has plummeted | CNN

6 months ago by vegeta to c/politics

Trust in government health agencies has plummeted, according to health policy and research group KFF, with declines across the political spectrum. And experts told CNN that they fear things could get worse.
inclementimmigrant 50 points 6 months ago

James Van Der Beek just died of cancer and his family just had to hold a fundraiser because cancer treatments apparently wiped out their family finances.

That's a guy who's net worth was in the millions. A guy with millions went nearly bankrupt in the American Don't Give A Care system. Meanwhile, here I am paying 10K a year for my family only to pay another 10K in deductibles a year to hopefully die quickly if something goes wrong.

Gee wonder why I have no faith in American healthcare.

Oh and get scoped regularly, don't just crap in a box, since colon cancer is the only cancer that's on the rise and hitting younger people.

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Triumph 14 points 6 months ago

I think they're recommending regular colonoscopy at age 45 now. That's like once every five years unless they find something they want to keep track of.

But yeah, if you want to start earlier than that, do. The diet and prep the couple days before is far worse than the procedure.

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givesomefucks 8 points 6 months ago

It's not as rare as people keep acting...

He was on a hit TV show 20 years ago, but it was his breakout so he probably got no residuals

He wasn't broke, he was a landlord that made like 12k/month off rent. But if his net worth was in the millions it was probably just like two LA houses that most likely still had mortgages. If you're going off websites it's probably reported wrong.

Like it's applicable to everyone because insurance shouldn't be tied to employment now that wages aren't capped due to WW2 anymore, but it's not like he was the 1% either. You gotta be well over 10 million for that.

Which should make us realize how bad wealth inequality has gotten. To the actual oligarchs Dawson and the rest of us are the same.

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Hadriscus 3 points 6 months ago

Good reminder of the geometry of class struggle

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givesomefucks 1 point 6 months ago

Yep

Even if you make it big young, if you don't keep working you'll never afford 40 years of health insurance.

He made at least one good investment and didn't blow his money. But that wasn't enough to cover a major medical condition.

The rest of us don't stand a chance, and I fully expect to be what actually gets us socialized medicine is going to be people just throwing the towel in on major medical treatment.

If a 40 year old gets cancer, we're going to see more and more people just start refusing the treatment.

Once that starts becoming normal (it's already happening) people are going to stop paying insurance because they know they'll never really use it.

That would crash the healthcare industry, and would make them "settle" for a socialized system they could still make profits.

As long as they're making money, they're happy. Which is why long term Obamacare just forcing people to pay for healthcare is probably a negative.

If it wasn't for that, lots more people would have opted out of healthcare.

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Triasha 0 points 6 months ago

They don't need us poors to make a profit. Half of all consumption spending in the US comes from the top 10% we are on track for that to narrow to the top 5% in my lifetime.

If people stop getting health insurance, they can just die. That's the more plausible future.

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doug 5 points 6 months ago

I’m below 45 but I’m gonna try and talk my doctor into letting me get a test early for no reason other than my being paranoid. I’ve had a few hemorrhoids and my bowels smell odder than usual despite following the same diet, so I just wanna see what my options are.

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meco03211 4 points 6 months ago

Low iron worked for me. Mine might have been due to frequent blood donations if you can do those. Try to manage having labs drawn for the doctor shortly after donating (double red blood cells is best). This of course depends on your ability to donate and line up the two appointments appropriately as well as having a hemoglobin that can be dropped low enough to warrant further investigation. It might be a very niche suggestion, but it could work for someone else.

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cynar 2 points 6 months ago

A relative of mine had a condition where he couldn't get rid of excess iron. The treatment? Blood letting. Once his levels were back down to normal, donation every 3 months.

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likeaforest 26 points 6 months ago

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Triasha 22 points 6 months ago

Prior to 2025 I could assume the CDC was staffed with well meaning technocrats. They could get something wrong, but they would almost always be correct, far more often than me.

Now I have to figure out if they are pushing a crackpot political agenda or giving legitimate guidelines.

Usually it will be the latter, but it's a cognitive load and that corrodes trust.

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qjkxbmwvz 6 points 6 months ago

In 2020 they recommended against face masks for non-healthcare workers. My understanding is that they did this to conserve masks for healthcare workers, as did the WHO. IMHO that was a really shitty thing for them to have done. Presenting all the facts and pleading with the public would, I think, have resulted in higher trust in them as an institution, ultimately saving lives, but that's just my opinion I guess.

But yeah, completely agree that even then it was more or less well meaning, as opposed to now.

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GreyEyedGhost 6 points 6 months ago

They made the decision that would save the most lives, which is their job. As for the people doing what's best for society, that's antithetical to American individualism, and your faith was proven wrong with both masks and toilet paper being bought for resale at predatory prices, or just to maintain personal supplies at the expense of everyone else.

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qjkxbmwvz 2 points 6 months ago

They made the decision that would save the most lives, which is their job.

But they lied to the public, which undermines trust; IMHO this was a myopic decision.

As for the people doing what's best for society, that's antithetical to American individualism

Can't speak for everyone, but Flex Alerts in California do indeed work (it's when we're asked to reduce energy consumption).

your faith was proven wrong with both masks and toilet paper being bought for resale at predatory prices, or just to maintain personal supplies at the expense of everyone else.

That's a fallacy/faulty generalization --- I'm not saying everyone behaves well, but from my experience, the vast majority do. The pandemic for me was a time where I really felt like we looked out for our fellow people, at least locally.

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vegeta 12 points 6 months ago

I, for one, would implicity trust my health to someone who snorts coke off of public toilet seats.

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tonytins 12 points 6 months ago

The Onion sure has their work cut out for them.

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SinningStromgald 7 points 6 months ago

At this point they would have to write him making sensible health policy decisions and that wouldn't be funny.

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captainlezbian 3 points 6 months ago

They've already written reasonable amicus briefs, what further cruelty can we inflict upon them?

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hume_lemmy 10 points 6 months ago

"Trump promised" <--- Found the problem

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CharlesDarwin 8 points 6 months ago

The Merdes Touch.

This could have easily been predicted, because everything Pedonald touches turns to shit. Why this country ever let this shitty rapey con artist get his grubby tiny paws on it is beyond me, but here we are.

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paper_moon 7 points 6 months ago

sHE had A fUNnY LaUgH!!!!!!

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CharlesDarwin 2 points 6 months ago

So true.

I'm so glad so many of my fellow Americans base their votes on stupid vibes like how a woman laughs.

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Eh_I 7 points 6 months ago

Where is this moron factory that's working so much overtime?

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DarkFuture 5 points 6 months ago

So, the same thing that happens every time America gives Republicans control.

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devolution 5 points 6 months ago

I'll take my advice from someone who snorts coke off of a toilet after a hooker took a shit any day. 🙃

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Widdershins 1 point 6 months ago

He's from a famous family he could snort coke off a toilet seat while a hooker takes a shit.

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SabinStargem 4 points 6 months ago

I have faith, that the Regime's approach to healthcare will have fatal consequences. My hope is that the MAGA population approaches zero within a few decades.

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BetaBlake 4 points 6 months ago

You mean to tell me the heroin addict, with brain worms who hates vaccines has plummeted trust?

Who could have seen it coming

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Triumph 4 points 6 months ago

Hard to know whether I "have faith in" American healthcare when I can't even afford it.

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SnarkoPolo 3 points 6 months ago

Again, according to plan. Get the population to believe in magic rather than trusting medicine. Soon, corporate employers won't have to offer health care, and aging Millennials won't say shit when there's no Medicare.

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Headofthebored 2 points 6 months ago

The man deliberately swam in sewage. Also, literally had a worm in his brain. Other than pedophiles, these are the people Trump hangs out with.

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doug 1 point 6 months ago

I’ve been rewatching Futurama for background noise while cooking and RFK absolutely feels 1:1 like he’s got a brain slug with the advice he’s been dispensing.

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voxthefox 1 point 6 months ago

Faith and trust are two different things

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