Europellinore 36 points 8 months ago

USA’s demand that Europe has to take care of its own defence, was never about Europe having to take care of its own defence.

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Mihies 19 points 8 months ago

Oh, absolutely. That 5% spending for NATO was intended to all go into US weapon industry.

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Clear 31 points 8 months ago

If they lobby against it that means it's working

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errer 9 points 8 months ago

Wake me when American defense companies start actually suffering

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Varcour 3 points 8 months ago

Is the goal to increase independence for Europe or suffering of US companies? Wouldn't the success of European defense companies be a better metric here?

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stoy 14 points 8 months ago

They are starting to see how heavily the EU have subsidized their arms industry, lol.

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rraggl 6 points 8 months ago

@stoy While their mandate 'Buy American' goes back to 1950 with the Defense Procurement Act. For European companies to qualify they demand production be at least 50% based in the US and often a full transfer of IP.

Now they cry foul as we aim to do the same tells a lot about just how skewed that relationship is and basically has been for decades. Freeloaders my ass! Don't budge @EUCommission ! #us #uspol #europe #defense #buyeuropean #unplugtrump

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stoy 8 points 8 months ago

At first I was confused as to why you highlighted me in a normal reply, then I remembered the that you might be posting through mastodon, and indeed you are.

Just awesome to have all services in the feddiverse intermingle natively!

Yeah, they have for decades screamed about the EU getting a free ride in NATO, while we have quietly been helping them massively with arms R&D and scaling production.

There is a YT channel mainly hosted by a former officer from the Finnish defense forces who explains how many orders the US have lost with all of Trumps shenanigans, it is called MilitaryRated, and what I really like about it is that they doesn't just stop at numbers, they quantify that into jobs lost over years/decades.

Here is a video doing just that:

https://youtu.be/q55K_gLdLTk

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hoshikarakitaridia 12 points 8 months ago

No chance lol

They fked it for themselves

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deadbeef79000 12 points 8 months ago

The best thing to do when a toddler is throwing a tantrum is ignore them.

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fox2263 5 points 8 months ago

Pwease buy our stuff.

Maybe the MIC should have thought about this before Trump ruined literally everything. They had a good thing going, selling to literally every country on earth barring a few.

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