Well, yeah
homesweethomeMrL 29 points 6 months ago
wpb 1 point 6 months ago
By the standards of the Nuremberg trials, every president since Eisenhower has been a war criminal. Chomsky wrote a piece on this in 1990, giving brief but convincing arguments for every president individually up till then. The pattern hasn't stopped since then. Bush needs no argument, I hope. Obama has his explicit protection of the torturers of abu ghraib, the expansion of the drone program which killed thousands (including hundreds of civilians), killed an entire wedding. Biden bombed Yemen, Syria, and others, and of course the genocide. Trump, I hope, needs no argument. Terrorist state.
vivalapivo -96 points 6 months ago
Except every democrat who has done the same
Tempus_Fugit 98 points 6 months ago
I mean sure they're hawkish too, but they haven't started a war since LBJ.
HubertManne 58 points 6 months ago
heck they get flak for not getting us out of ones started by republicans in a good enough manner.
RaoulDuke85 58 points 6 months ago
What's truer is every Republican has sent the economy into a recession.
testfactor 30 points 6 months ago
Holy cow my man. Do you live on here?
Like, not agreeing with the guy, but if you assume that he didn't respond to you in an hour because he can't, as opposed to just having a life, that's a far more negative reflection on you than him.
Most people aren't on here every waking hour. And if you are, I genuinely recommend you self reflect and maybe step away from the keyboard a bit.
WillFord27 -4 points 6 months ago
Personally, I find it distasteful to default to "man" when referring to people that you're unsure of the pronouns of, especially those that are seemingly female presenting. This is an example in choosing your battles, because nitpicking someone detracts from their point. Pettifogging and such.
Furthermore, I think the number of sentences in your reply is entertaining, for someone criticizing another for spending too much time on this app. Also yes I am indeed pettifogging. =^}
LillyPip -5 points 6 months ago
No, but when I say something controversial, I tend to monitor replies for a short while in case anyone responds.
I don’t tend to troll, but I’d expect a troll to monitor even longer, since otherwise what’s the point?
(Hence, I’m still in here.)
vivalapivo 3 points 6 months ago
I was thinking about Obama's Libya, Afghanistan, ISIS while Clinton was complicit in striking Yugoslavia.
Biden is a lesser match here, but he could be blamed for enabling Israel in 2023
Ps: have you assumed I was getting a healthy piece of sleep?
lungcookie 13 points 6 months ago
FYI this user is Russian:
vivalapivo -5 points 6 months ago
I am. How's that related?
snowdriftissue 84 points 6 months ago
What does this even mean? The proportion of gen z trump voters was way lower than millennial trump voters in 2024
Regardless these arbitrary generational divisions are worse than meaningless
JackbyDev 23 points 6 months ago
Meme templates often evolve past their original context. A good example is Spider-Man with his glasses. People use it with Peter putting his glasses on to see clearly, but in the movie he had to take them off because his vision was better without them. But without the context of the scene that's (mostly) lost. (He looks sort of squinty with the glasses on, but still confused with them off.)
Omegamanthethird 6 points 6 months ago
That one actually does bother me though.
TropicalDingdong 0 points 6 months ago
It's weird whataboutism propaganda being out out by ABWD/ blue maga
orbitz -9 points 6 months ago
Generations do have voting habits though, someone from gen Z is not voting for the same reason as the boomers. When people from the younger generation make choices that will hurt their future it should be realized and understood so hopefully later elections (heh for the current system) they can understand why some people aren't in their best interest and things adjusted.
Mean for voters that want the current situation then they're assholes cause they voted for someone with the worst outcome of the planet and society in mind.
snowdriftissue 15 points 6 months ago
Generations do have voting habits though
What you mean to say is simply that environment influences behavior. "Generations" are just arbitrary buckets that reinforce stereotypes and create division. A young gen x person likely has a lot more in common with an old millennial than an old gen x person.
JackbyDev 8 points 6 months ago
Yeah it ticks me off when people get pedantic about generations. It's like y'all know they're just a marketing thing, right? So marketing firms can act like they know whatever generation they're talking about. It's not some official thing.
orbitz 1 point 6 months ago
Please don't say what I meant to say. If I am incorrect i am is all. I think generations have a valid similarity because of the world at the time.
Mean didn't say the exact generations as said by books but people who grow up in a similar political and economic environment probably are impacted by that situation and that sort of happens, Which is more what I meant.
phaseshift 44 points 6 months ago
As someone who served in both… yea. We all saw this coming for Iran. Gen Z buying into Trump and maga hurt a lot to watch.
phaseshift 8 points 6 months ago
I don’t think that’s the case at all. College football is closer to communities in areas that don’t have bigger professional sports teams and is an extremely achievable goal for a lot of folks who want to play ball and go to school.
I would be sold if you told me that Hollywood was conditioned/incentivized to make movies idolizing the Army
Canconda 3 points 6 months ago
Perhaps I misspoke saying "college" football. (I'm canadian so we don't have college football the same way here)
I don't really see how any of those facts you said are mutually exclusive with what I said.
If you think about football as a career, it's a goldmine of people who didn't make the cut and can enlist.
If you think about football's skill development... it very much aligns with military teamwork etc.
Football selects for people who will follow orders, put themselves in harms way, and focus on the objective.
pelespirit 21 points 6 months ago
Instead of Gen Z, let's just say every republican this term. He cheated, but a whole shit ton of people still voted for him. I don't think he needed to cheat.
fallaciousBasis 4 points 6 months ago
Right? Jessica Jones gots no time for this Lucifer shit.
TronBronson 2 points 6 months ago
A meme combines image and text to make a joke. Usually made to reach the widest audience possible else becoming a meta meme.
TronBronson 1 point 6 months ago
Do claim sour grapes because the JD Vance meme lacks authenticity to its subject too? Do you think we should redefine all media to suit your tastes? We should be brain rot tv addicts before we’re allowed to interact with JPEGS? Tell us how you really feel. this is my favorite comment for the day.
Binturong 1 point 6 months ago
Sour grapes? are you 80 years old?
No, it's just that you're putting the people in the wrong roles relative to the source and that matters. I just needed to point out that anyone recognizing the meme will think you're villainizing the objectively correct Millennials here, and contradicting yourself. Unless you're intending to argue that the Gen Zers are correct with this meme? Honestly I'm confused what your goals were at all with this post.
You can try to gaslight me to make yourself look less goofy if you like but the question remains and I promise you I'm not the only one thinking this, just put a little more thought into it before you shit out memeslop.
TronBronson 1 point 6 months ago
O look the annoying little meme critique comic book fanboy. Save it for comic con nerd.
samus12345 1 point 6 months ago
This is the first known use of this meme:
It's the way the two people appear, not whatever the original context of the scene was, that's relevant.
samus12345 2 points 6 months ago
How can you misuse a meme that never existed before?
that’s a dumb meme saying nothing.
Yeah, that's how it is with most memes. They're not meant to be taken seriously. Actually, there's a meme for that!
TronBronson -2 points 6 months ago
I don’t know what this meme is from. I understood the context of the meme. It was funny. Get bent you don’t even understand how memes work. Spoiler it’s not to accommodate weird fans of shitty media.
okamiueru 3 points 6 months ago
You're being a bit rude, no? Especially about something you both don't know and don't seem to care to know? Which is the weirdest time to speak your mind and be a dick about it. I suppose this is the anti-intellectual age after all. In any case, and not that you care, but maybe someone else does. He is playing a mind controlling sociopath in Jessica Jones. So, the context here would be him having complete control over her, and anything he says, becomes reality in her mind. Makes it a confusingly bad choice for this particular use.
TronBronson 1 point 6 months ago
I mean OP began the conversation being bit rude? To me that’s an open door to be an asshole and I am deep down an asshole, and it’s who I really wanna be all the time. If you don’t want to me to be rude…. Don’t play holier than thou with memes.
TronBronson 1 point 6 months ago
No I just thought accusing someone of not understanding their own meme was the dumbest thing I was going to read for a while. It was.
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its_kim_love 9 points 6 months ago
Low effort generationalism again.
homesweethomeMrL 21 points 6 months ago
As opposed to high effort generationalism?
Viking_Hippie 20 points 6 months ago
its_kim_love 2 points 6 months ago
Never seen it.
its_kim_love 4 points 6 months ago
My point exactly.
snowdriftissue 8 points 6 months ago
It is a legitimate classification system.
LOL
its_kim_love 4 points 6 months ago
All generationalism is good for is distraction from the class war.
Objection 5 points 6 months ago
This reminds me of a post I made before the election:
Trump's foreign policy equivocation, and his "America First" slogan allows him to appeal to both the Idealist Doves (libertarians) and the Realist Hawks (nationalists). He can't consistently take any line on any specific thing. If by Afghanistan, you mean a disastrous nation-building exercise, wasteful government spending, and endangering our troops for the sake of helping foreigners, then of course Trump opposes it. But if by Afghanistan, you mean exerting American strength, intimidating Russia and China, and weakening terrorists to keep America safe, then of course Trump supports it.
In reality, to the extent that Trump has coherent beliefs at all, he is a Realist Hawk, a nationalist, and his record reflects that. But part of the reason he was able to get anywhere was because he was able to triangulate and equivocate well enough to dupe anti-war libertarians.
Unfortunately, in American politics, the conflict is generally between Idealist Hawks and everyone else. This is part of what allows the nationalists and libertarians to put aside their differences (the other part being that libertarians are easily duped). Realist Doves are not represented anywhere, the Idealist Interventionists consider us Russian bots along with everyone else who disagrees with them on foreign policy (regardless of how or why), the Idealist Doves are extremely unreliable, and the Realist Hawks may see the world in a similar way but have diametrically opposed priorities.
tl;dr: Trump's halfhearted antiwar posturing is an obvious ruse that only an idiot would fall for, but painting everyone skeptical of US foreign policy with the same brush helps him to sell it and to paint over ideological rifts that could otherwise be potentially exploited.
Digit 3 points 6 months ago
General Wesley Clark's 7 countries in 5 years reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KkNAQIuGZY
Just to remind us of the PNAC plan, that we're still in, despite that thinktank officially ending 20 years ago.
Gammelfisch 3 points 6 months ago
Exactly, one too many idiots who believed in MAGA. The shitheads should be lining up at the US Army recruiting offices signing up for 11 Bravo, Infantry.
AntiBullyRanger -1 points 6 months ago
🤣 They are literally downvoting me, for pointing this out.
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