Florida Has Deemed All Existing Intro to Sociology Textbooks Illegal and Produced Its Own
7 months ago by floofloof to c/politics
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/64975432
State accrediation is usually harder to get than the national one. When looking at schools (if you give a shit on where the degree is from) the state accred is what your looking for. If it has just the national accred, then be warry of it being a diploma mill. If it has neither, dont bother, they are likely run by a cult.
What I feel is going to happen is that companies will stop viewing that degree as favorably and pick applicants with stronger credentials. Worst case is that people with social science degrees from florida schools wont be able to breaking into job fields related to the degrees that are having the state intervene on the subject matter, but that will take years to notice if it happens at all.
I think you mean "regional accreditation" (e.g. https://sacscoc.org/ in this case), not "state accreditation." Which is good, because Florida can't exercise complete control over it.
Worst case is that people with social science degrees from florida schools wont be able to breaking into job fields related to the degrees
Are you saying that there are no companies supporting the far-right politics in US? Like entire Big Tech? Fossil fuels? Defense industry? The entire government...
Unfortunately sociology does not seem to have A singular nationwide accreditation body (like ABET for STEM).
In what world would that work?
Not all sociology professors are left leaning and universities are controlled by TP USA. Anyone breaking the rule would be quickly suspended and most likely prosecuted. Do you think there's not enough room in prisons to fit sociology professors? Or that they are essential workers and the state would not function without them?
Half of Americans agree whit this shit. Florida would (and probably will) simply become the go to place for fascist to get a degree.
First of all, so what? It has to be done anyway. You have to resist, not just bend over and take it.
Second, the accreditation of Florida colleges is not controlled by Florida. Even if they've gone insane, entities outside of the state still get to judge them.
First of all, not many people will decide go to prison in protest. Easy for you to say to do it. Would you be able to do it? How are you resisting what's going on in US? Are you writing this from prison?
Second, if entities outside the state will judge Florida colleges why would people have to go to jail in resistance? Won't those entities force Florida to revert this?
Lots of fascists already have degrees and they got them in business school or political science.
That's where the real "meat grinder" social structures come into play.
If you truly think half of the US is down for this, the propaganda is working on you.
I did see them, yes. And I feel like you're maybe not very good at math.
Florida is a failed Fascist State.
Although it would be better run.
Fuck you USA, try to finally do something useful and pull yourself together. The whole planet is suffering because of you, you start to be more worse than Russian, and that’s not easy to do. Rest of the world is already hating you and your government, when are you going to stop this madness?
Thanks, we hate it here too! It's awful.
relevant tweet
Fun fact: The dude who directed this movie recently released an AI-made documentary series and everyone thought it sucked ass. He really shit the bed
The Whale was good though
Russia, unlike the USA, actually produces an educated populace. You can argue about the quality of that education, or inherent biases built into the system (while we pretend the US doesn't have any), but Russia has a much higher percent of its population with postsecondary degrees.
Fascinating.
Teach a class called “why woke sociology was made illegal” and go over all the things the law prohibits and what woke sociology used to say about it, so that students “understand the law”. Surely it’s not illegal to know the law, is it Florida? Do you want to make it illegal to know the law, Florida?
So I'm a new teacher (college level) as I'm still finishing up my PhD. The first class I taught I asked my supervisor if I could tell students about sci-hub. Which is a website that lets you bypass pay walls for research publications.
It's very easy to use.
Anywho. I was told no. That I needed to tell students to use the university research portal (which is tedious does not always even grant access to the paper you want).
So what I did was I had a PowerPoint about how they shouldn't use scihub. Which uses the doi to pull up any paper behind a pay wall. And that the link to the main sci hub site was this, because magnet links came and went frequently. But they shouldn't use it because the university has a research paper portal that is incredibly tedious to use but the university pays a lot of money for it.
I did give links to resources for the university portal.
I also clarified that it's not illegal to use scihub. But it's illegal for sci hub creators to have made it. A nice little loop hole. .it's only illegal to distribute. Not illegal to be the person it's distributed to. But that they definitely shouldn't use it and to use the university site instead. Definitely don't tell their fellow students about it or share the links. And I made very obvious expressions so they got it.
Few chuckles and my work was done.
I love this. Thanks for being awesome.
Teach it as an extra credit option and have all the content be online.
Students that graduates with a liberal arts degree from an anti-speech state like Florida should be viewed as having the equivalent of a high school education.
Unless someone intends to stay in-state and thinks some mark of stupidity will help them with other stupid people, why not transfer at this point? What a waste of time and money for impacted students.
What's next? Will the white trash jesus states demand Biblically correct flat earth astronomy textbooks and pass poorly written laws demanding that too?
And I guess this isn't "cancel culture"?
Florida is a deathcult
You’re assigned X book, but we will only be reading the table of contents. I’ve prepared 12 supplementary documents that we will be using each week as your main reading.
At this point, Floridians are probably too dumb to even vote.
Schools have always been propaganda machines, but the propaganda has shifted completely to 100% ignorance and hate.
You used to be able to learn actual science. History too, albeit with an AMERICA IS GREAT focus.
Future editions of "Lies My Teacher Told Me" are going to need to be multi-volume sets like encyclopedias.
Time for the good professor to leave Florida. OR, more to the point, dig in his heels and write articles such as this and teach them as well. He - and all the Sciology teachers in Florida at the moment - are in a totally teachable moment and it can be leveraged against the diminishment of educational standards that are pulling America down, giving foreign government economic advantage, leaving our military open to greater attack, and countless other ills when a country falls to rank classism..
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The only reasonable response to this is for every sociology professor to blatantly flout the law. This must continue until either the state backs down, or it becomes impossible for anybody to get a degree in Florida that includes required sociology classes because there's nobody left employed to teach it.
Additionally, every college in Florida should lose accreditation over this.
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