Disney Exits OpenAI Deal After AI Giant Shutters Sora

5 months ago by XLE to c/technology

The studio giant will no longer move forward with its OpenAI investment, as the AI company exits the video generation business.
SalamenceFury 127 points 5 months ago

I can't wait to see the stock market tomorrow morning. It's gonna be carnage. Let the bodies hit the floor.

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SpaceNoodle 52 points 5 months ago

Don't hold your breath.

But also, don't be surprised.

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cronenthal 40 points 5 months ago

The markets have completed their transition into a casino, no predictions are possible anymore.

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pHr34kY 20 points 5 months ago

It needs to function like a casino so that Trump can bankrupt it.

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Duke_Nukem_1990 5 points 5 months ago

Nah you just need to get intel on who cheeto president is bombing next so you can bet on oil before it happens.

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ripcord 6 points 5 months ago

Market still shows pretty up in pre-trading

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cmbabul 34 points 5 months ago

The markets ceased being rational like so long ago

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ViatorOmnium 8 points 5 months ago

On the other hand you can always rely on them being a bunch of drama queens that always overreacts to news.

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REDACTED 4 points 5 months ago

Disney or sora really wasn't that big of a deal in AI (due to alternatives). OpenAI is probably right to shift focus to coding. Disney is probably still going to go after AI, just different company.

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maplesaga 3 points 5 months ago

Its horrible, a wave of green, the color of witches.

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FEIN 1 point 5 months ago

shouldn't it be red if a service is getting shut down? thats negative i assume

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maplesaga 1 point 5 months ago

Assumptions implies logic, thats where you went wrong. This is a QE fueled casino, the game of musical chairs only ends when a large bank goes insolvent.

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homes 112 points 5 months ago

So, perhaps the AI bubble won’t pop.

Maybe it’ll just slowly deflate like a rancid fart.

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anomnom 22 points 5 months ago

Silent but deadly

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ZILtoid1991 6 points 5 months ago

I have a theory, that these techbros have became so savvy of bubbles, that they had plans to keep it going forever, or at least make it slowly die instead of crash at once.

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UnderpantsWeevil 4 points 5 months ago

I heard the big banks were trying something similar shortly before the '08 crash. And the Enron/Worldcomm crew right before 9/11.

Certainly possible they've got an exit strategy lined up. But the problem is that they're always just a little too greedy and too high on their own supply. During the '14 mini-recession, reinflating the bubble economy was a bipartisan goal. After the '20 COVID crash, there was broad consensus in cranking open the money hose and flooding the economy with cheap cash. '08, '14, and '20 set a big historical precedent for the "We'll never let you fail" policies of the federal government. And so we've diluted a lot of the short term pain of economic contraction into the longer term pains of currency inflation.

The enormous devastation to real physical capital all across these Mid-Eastern theocracies, combined with the socio-economic pressures of Climate Change induced heat waves, can and will push certain regions of the globe to a breaking point. At some point, you just don't have anything to spend all those excess dollars on.

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BarneyPiccolo 4 points 5 months ago

Shart.

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samus12345 108 points 5 months ago

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Washedupcynic 2 points 5 months ago

😂

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EatMyPixelDust 100 points 5 months ago

Sora died? Awesome. What an absolute waste of resources that garbage was.

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OldQWERTYbastard 36 points 5 months ago

Honestly I wasn't a fan after the first Kingdom Hearts.

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Yttra 12 points 5 months ago

Ignoring the peak of all action games that is KH2? Sacrilege!

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mic_check_one_two 8 points 5 months ago

That’s a shame, because KH2 is pretty widely regarded as the best in the series. If you stopped with Chain of Memories, I wouldn’t blame you. The gameplay for that one is definitely… Uhh… Divisive. But KH2 was when the series really hit its stride.

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zalgotext 3 points 5 months ago

I thought the card-based combat and deck building in Chain of Memories was fun, and the PS2 remake was really well done imo. KH2 is good, but story-wise, I don't think anything can top 358 days/2, though Birth By Sleep comes close, and I like the combat in BBS more than KH2.

Skip re:Coded though, or just find a compilation of the cutscenes/story on YouTube. That one is ass

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GutterRat42 4 points 5 months ago

Layers and layers

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Jomega 12 points 5 months ago

Roxas had entered the chat.

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Washedupcynic 3 points 5 months ago

Is he still trying to save Kairi too?

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ArmchairAce1944 -1 points 5 months ago

I got bored REALLY fast of their shit.

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SpaceNoodle 69 points 5 months ago

Womp; also, womp.

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Tore 6 points 5 months ago

Wait, let me get the world's smallest violin and we'll start over. 

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Voroxpete 66 points 5 months ago

If I remember right, wasn't shutting down Sora one of Ed's signs of the apocalypse?

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XLE 47 points 5 months ago

Pretty close! Sora gets mentioned specifically, just not in that context

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humanspiral 17 points 5 months ago

A big, stupid magic trick: As these companies get desperate, expect someone — especially OpenAI — to try and show something “new and crazy” as a means of trying to turn the narrative. When or if this happens, look very carefully at what they say about the product’s availability, or what it can do, or who they show it to.

Alternative scenario — Sora launches: If OpenAI gets desperate, it may move up the public launch of Sora, its generative video product. Doing so will only cause more problems — there isn’t a chance in hell that Sora is profitable, and I’m fairly sure it’s even more expensive to run than ChatGPT, and I imagine its visual inconsistencies and hallucinations would make for some entertaining content for YouTubers and tech reporters.

It was a horseman, just not the part where they cancel it a few months later.

To be fair to OpenAI, they are now saying "just use ChatGPT for video too". Good chance that Disney cancelled them before they cancelled Sora

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Lonewolfmcquade 10 points 5 months ago

Great read! I wonder what his perspective is now. That article was written in August 2024 and a lot has happened since then. For example, I cannot fathom the agreement to Sundar's latest pay package. Another example of failing up the corporate ladder.

Also, it feels like competition with China was an overlooked wildcard in his argument. It would not surprise me if the bubble continues to grow just to try and beat China.

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itsathursday 12 points 5 months ago

He’s been on Newsweek podcast recently and given his assessment with new events and focus on datacenters and hardware.

https://youtu.be/RKwK7qrBz8g

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CommanderCloon 4 points 5 months ago

The issue is that you can't really "beat" China. Their models are free to self host and use, they don't play by the rules of US LLM companies.

Sure it's going to be the same for personal use, to most people chatGPT or DeepSeek are websites.

But to enterprise it will be a massive difference in cost, and AI can't even begin to dream about profitability without enterprise

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MalReynolds 2 points 5 months ago

Their models are free to self host and use, they don’t play by the rules of US LLM companies.

Jury's out on that, they may be using the large US company play of undercut your competitors until they crash and burn then seize the monopoly (e.g. Amazon and bookstores....) then ratchet prices up and enshittify, but with the bankroll of a huge country.

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uberdroog 5 points 5 months ago

Great read, thank you

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rndmdsplyname 44 points 5 months ago

good. Hopefully suno dies next. GenAI is garbage tech.

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KneeTitts 2 points 5 months ago

Hopefully suno dies next. GenAI is garbage tech

Ive been asking this for 4 years now, no one has given a good answer. What is this tech actually for??? Whats the use case??

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rndmdsplyname 1 point 5 months ago

It’s for enabling wannabes. I’m a professional musician and I can tell you the only person who uses it is someone on the Suno payroll (Timbaland)

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reksas 1 point 5 months ago

amusing yourself with silly songs and also not tormenting others with them

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anon_8675309 32 points 5 months ago

Is the bubble finally starting to leak?

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SupraMario 38 points 5 months ago

I think the cracks are starting to show daily at this point. Didn't Oracle get denied funds from banks when they went to fund more DCs?

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stringere 48 points 5 months ago

Oracle goimg broke would make me orgasm so hard I would probably break something in me.

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SupraMario 24 points 5 months ago path: 0 22850968 22851736 22852601 22852903, hotness: undefined, score: 24, children: 1
stringere 14 points 5 months ago

Love seeing this.

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pinball_wizard 14 points 5 months ago

I hope there's early warning when Oracle goes bankrupt. I need time to go buy enough party supplies.

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ech 30 points 5 months ago

"Wait, so you're not going to help us eliminate most of our media staff? We're out."

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JackbyDev 9 points 5 months ago

I recently stopped working as a developer for Disney, and even if this deal is gone for using their IP in AI, they're still really big on AI at the moment. From the C level there was a push for everyone to be using it as much as possible. Everyone needed to be showing how much they were integrating it into their workflows.

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RampantParanoia2365 -14 points 5 months ago

Breaking: Film company breaks ties with other company after they stop doing film stuff. More at 11.

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