According to some users on r/redditalternatives some people have already been shadowbanned for posting lemmy links.
That post seems to be missing.
dilligasatall 30 points 3 years ago
Dandroid 4 points 3 years ago
So it looks like this comment was shadow removed, but I can still interact with people outside this one comment, so it seems my account wasn't shadowbanned, but the definitely shadow removed the comment. I didn't even realize it was removed.
FlaxPicker 17 points 3 years ago
Says deleted
Dandroid 4 points 3 years ago
Does it really? Well, I guess that settles that debate.
Edit: just checked in an incognito tab. Yep, it was definitely removed. That's hilarious. Reddit is scared if they are spending developer time removing links to their competition.
dreadedchalupacabra 2 points 3 years ago
Most big subs ban those full stop. Just because of what you're suggesting.
Kichae 20 points 3 years ago
Oh, probably like -5 days. I'm sure they'd just be blacklisting domains, though. Linking to smaller, lesser-known instances that don't literally have "Lemmy" in their URL might work, though. Especially if you don't re-use any particular instance too frequently.
But that might also confuse people.
nostalgicgamerz 19 points 3 years ago
They probably are already
Void_Sloth 4 points 3 years ago
I just got here today from a link
ragnarokonline 5 points 3 years ago
It's been one week since spez looked at me Cocked his head to the side and said, "I'm angry" Five days since I joined Lemmy Saying, "Get your API together, come back and see me" Three days since the living room I realized it's the IPO’s fault, but couldn't see it through Yesterday, Spez was blocking me But it'll still be two days 'til he says he’s sorry
MusketeerX 1 point 3 years ago
Nice.
I wonder how many people will even get this!?
greatwhitebuffalo41 2 points 3 years ago
I have an automod that links to all the other places my sub is on. It's getting mass reported everyday. I have to manually approve them all.
falkerie71 1 point 3 years ago
With Fediverse, you could see the exact same post with different links generated from different instances, so theoretically you could bypass the filter by using obscure instances to share the post link, assuming they're just filtering links via domain name.
GeneParmesan 41 points 3 years ago
That’s the tactic that got me started on Reddit. For a while before the dreaded relaunch, many of the links on Digg were just linking to Reddit posts.
AbyssalChord 36 points 3 years ago
That‘s actually a smart idea. Thank you
dreadedchalupacabra 5 points 3 years ago
Someone should start a magazine specifically to catalog the subs that aren't cool with fediverse crossposting, to save the hassle.
wave_walnut 30 points 3 years ago
I'm already doing it as I can and sometime getting downvote, but I'm fine.
OsrsNeedsF2P 27 points 3 years ago
Don't overdo it or the links will be shadow banned for spam
elephantintheroom 14 points 3 years ago
Good idea. Kind of like guerilla-marketing.
Aeoneir 6 points 3 years ago
Try using a url shortener and hiding the url behind the highlighted text link thingy like this
Might be enough to trick the bot, might not be. Only 1 way to find out
icxcnika 4 points 3 years ago
Nah, that's called spam at that point.
Don't make the Fediverse something that only has a reputation for spamming reddits.
Link to fediverse posts where it's allowed and makes sense to do so.
Don't link to fediverse posts - even using tinyurl workarounds - in places where that activity isn't welcomed by the mods.
icxcnika 3 points 3 years ago
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Hm. Generally, yes. I'm on kbin.social. tl;dr: Fantastic and excellent social media alternative, but as someone that's worked years in ITSec, I have some huge concerns.
Things I found surprising:
- Registration was intuitive and easy.
- There's already a huge volume of good content readily available without having to "find it" (I had imagined it being more like ""the dark web"", i.e. you have to know what site you're looking for
- Voting transparency omg holy shit. I remember when Reddit introduced vote fuzzing and it was the dumbest thing. At least on kbin, who upvotes/downvotes something is publicly viewable. So rather than "let's fuzz the votes to throw off the bots", simply showing who voted allows you to easily find the troll downvoting everything or a flood of bots or so on. I imagine there's probably not much tooling around this yet, but there inevitably will be.
Things I've found confusing, concerning, or have questions about (feel free to point me in the direction of a good magazine or FAQ as well):
- WTF is boost vs upvote?
- Are usernames unique across the fediverse, or only across instances? (Is there anything preventing me from registering e.g. Cryst@kbin.social , then jumping on this thread and pretending to be you, or vice versa?)
- What happens if an instance closes up shop? Is there any way to migrate everyone's data over to another instance?
- What happens if I decide I hate kbin.social admins, or you decide you hate lemmy.ca admins - are either of us able to fairly seamlessly move our identities from one server to another? Or would it be "nope, create a new account and start over"?
- On reddit, a lot of good things happen around flairing (users, posts). Does fediverse have an equivalent?
- Sometimes as I'm browsing I find myself on a different server (I think) and the language of the GUI is entirely switched to Arabic or similar. I still haven't figured out how to fix that or even what's doing it.
I still need to set up my own instance and play with that too.
neardeaf 7 points 3 years ago
I would love to pick one maybe two subreddits to focus on taking the top posts and just reposting them to the communities here, but I’m kinda waiting on community consolidation to get fixed so I don’t waste time posting to empty communities. Also if there was a Reddit to Lemmy post migration script or something to automate it that would be awesome
AniDanny 7 points 3 years ago
That's how I got here! I saw a thread mention that people should migrate to Lemmy, and if I hadn't seen a half-dozen lemmy.world posts on reddit earlier in the day, I wouldn't have given it a second thought.
YolkBrushWork402 6 points 3 years ago
Very smart idea, i think this will get users to get to Kbin/Lemmy
ranoss 5 points 3 years ago
I think that’s a good mood. Migrating for me was a bit overwhelming at first because I didn’t know how to navigate and I was trying to do everything all at once. Little bites would be a better way to take it in
Unblended 4 points 3 years ago
I've been kind of suggesting the same thing a few times inside of posts. I'm coming at it from the perspective of having had to do a lot of in-person recruiting for voluntary activities, mentoring, and teaching -- you cannot tell people things like "you should just join lemmy/kbin" -- you have to wait for them to ask "how do I join lemmy/kbin?"
That's okay! It just means that the focus when introducing people to it has to be "here's what you're missing", positive about where they could go rather than negative about where they are.
It's an uphill battle trying to argue with people who do have a point about it being harder to use (we shouldn't gaslight people), but they're also saying what the audience is wanting to hear because it gives them permission to do nothing.
How many are just admin accounts or sock puppets for some agenda or another anyway?
Consider focusing on the positive -- link to specific posts on these systems that are objectively worth going to participate in. They don't need an account to read and enjoy.
Then, if they discover that they wish that they could participate in the thread -- that is the time to explain that they should just join whatever instance the post they really enjoyed was on for starters. They'll realize that they can see magazines from other instances, probably after a week when they realize other instance domain names are showing up on things. Then some nice person explains what's going on.
And now they've convinced themselves it's worth joining...
retronautickz 1 point 3 years ago
If anybody wants to share a link to kbin/Lemmy so people join, don't send the official Lemmy or Kbin page (or the official page of any federated platform) nor the link to any given server. Share instead links to the Join the fediverse wiki, fedeverse party, etc that have lists of servers and also have posts explaining anything a person needs to know to start an account on any decentralized platform/server.
thesanewriter 1 point 3 years ago
This is a really good idea, hopefully it will pull more people to our communities.
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b_mcschmee 13 points 3 years ago
I'm sure you were banned 10 times cause you "are able to articulate logical arguments against transgenderism" and not being a hateful annoying cunt. I tip my fedora to you. I think some better advice for you is stop obsessing over trans people to such a degree that your comments get you banned from a platform 10 times. But to answer your question there are some instances that will not ban you for that stuff, but most of the big ones are moderated and tend to be left leaning so you probably will be banned for transphobia.
elephantintheroom -1 points 3 years ago
Come on now...
I also strongly disagree with what this user says and I get your anger, but is it really necessary to be insulting? I feel like simply downvoting and otherwise ignoring it would be healthier for this community at large.
Let's not make this place like reddit or any bigger social network, please.
fazey_o0o 1 point 3 years ago
Exactly, let's not make this place like most social media. And to do that, we could start by not welcoming transphobia here. I don't think I'm exactly the right person to speak up here, since I'm a cis guy who also just joined this platform today, but "logical arguments against transgenderism" straight up sounds like "I am transphobic but act like I wasn't"
VioletteRei 13 points 3 years ago
Gender identity is prove by science, go away with your ficking arguments
dreadedchalupacabra 6 points 3 years ago
Yes, reddit bans people for hate speech. And why are you going to every sub and thread talking about this? It's almost like it's not just a casual conversation topic but you're actively spreading hate propaganda. Gee I wonder WHY you keep getting banned.
Maybe don't make political talking points from a hate group your entire personality.
Cloudless 3 points 3 years ago
It depends on the moderators of the "magazine" (community) you are posting in. For example if you post your topic in my Pomeranians community, I might remove your post and give you the reasons for removal, but I probably won't ban you unless you go off topic repeatedly.
Another type of banning is called "instance ban". Instance bans are when a user is banned from an entire instance by the instance administrator. This means that the user can no longer access any of the communities or content on that instance. However, the user can still access other instances, unless they are also banned from those instances. Instance bans can be temporary or permanent, depending on the severity of the violation and the discretion of the administrator.
kbin.social instance administrators seem to be reasonable people. So I doubt that you would get banned if you follow the rules.
Lemmy.ml on the other hand...
Mintyytea 1 point 3 years ago
To make a thread, go to the community you wanna post on, then click Create a new article. It’s confusing I know haha but after I learned that, I haven’t had problems. They might change how that part is organized too to be more clear
icxcnika 1 point 3 years ago
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dw bro, we aint chasin off smart-talkin intellectuals like yerself
On the other hand, people who want to start inflammatory political/sociological arguments in places where they don't belong - like this thread - will find themselves facing a crowd of people with pitchforks, regardless of whether or not the person is well-spoken or the argument well-articulated.
thanks for using Leebra!
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I wonder how long it'll take before Reddit starts shadowdeleting anything containing links to Fediverse websites?
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