Unappreciated in my own lifetime

5 months ago by LadyButterfly she/her to c/science_memes

TheFogan 239 points 5 months ago

on a job interview in IT, an interviewer asked me if I understood the difference between TCP and UDP. After giving the best technical explanation I could, I ended with

I could tell you a UDP joke, but I'm not sure if you'd get it.

He said go ahead

I paused, that was it.

Kind of awkward.

I didn't get the job.

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jol 106 points 5 months ago

Nothing boosts your impression on people like making them feel stupid. RIP

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captcha 64 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't expect this joke to make someone feel stupid if they know what UDP is, so it feels like it was a safe bet

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yakko 35 points 5 months ago

Interviewing is (ideally) quite a structured type of conversation, when is a job interview. A lot of people have to lock in pretty hard to deal with how unnatural it is, and they might not have the spare bandwidth to catch a joke.

Especially not someone from HR, they're fucking troglodytes.

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TheBrideWoreCrimson 26 points 5 months ago

I completely agree with your first paragraph.
But TheFogan was probably not explaining UDP to an HR person in this scenario.

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MonkderVierte 1 point 5 months ago
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hessenjunge 13 points 5 months ago

Yeah, but that’s not what this was.

Interviewer asked about thing then does not get joke about most basic property of thing. Either the interviewer is incredibly incompetent or incapable of getting a joke.

It’s a weird situation even for a job interview. (& I’ve been on job interviews that can only be described as tribunals with 8 judges grilling you simultaneously.)

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TheFogan 4 points 5 months ago

I mean I think he got it after a few seconds, he did laugh, and then comment how everything was so serious before then and it took him a bit to get it. I don't think that was why I didn't get the job.

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jol -4 points 5 months ago

Humour is not universal, and cracking jokes in an interview is high risk no reward. I've rejected candidates that made inappropriate jokes before. Intentions don't really matter, there's 10 more candidates.

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hessenjunge 4 points 5 months ago

Why do you keep moving the goal posts? We’re not talking about inappropriate jokes or someone being an ass during an interview. Honestly, if an interviewer wastes my time like this I’m ending the interview. Good luck finding just one more guy matching my talents.

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Nollij 1 point 5 months ago

Interviews are also (if not primarily) a measure of cultural fit. Making tasteful jokes is absolutely appropriate, but depends on the culture. I wouldn't want to work at a place that is too uptight for some humor.

The UDP joke isn't one that I'd probably use, but doesn't feel out of place in the context of detailing the protocol.

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PhoenixDog 9 points 5 months ago

Hey man, it's not my fault other people are stupid.

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jol 3 points 5 months ago

What was that Marge meme? It's true, but he shouldn't say it :P

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RamenJunkie 1 point 5 months ago

I mean, you would think most people would be used to that feeling by now.

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Gremour 57 points 5 months ago

I will also tell you a joke about TCP, and if you don't get it, I will repeat.

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Alfredolin 29 points 5 months ago

This is fucking funny.

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guynamedzero 10 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately I don’t know enough about udp to get it, is it that you dumped the information before like, asking about it?

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Baguette 30 points 5 months ago

Tcp and udp are to sum it up, internet messaging protocols. UDP specifically is when you send a message over without guaranteeing your message was received. TCP on the otherhand is more like a handshake where you send a message and expect a response back.

The joke is basically UDP=I dont know if you would get it

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TheFogan 10 points 5 months ago

Yeah I believe i remember roughly the explanation I gave to the interviewer.

TCP basically takes the time to confirm every detail actually was recieved, used in almost all situations in networking where accuracy is critical.

UDP is basically when speed is the more important than everything being perfect, (we were on a zoom call), Like say this video call, if the background gets blurry or a few frames drop or even my face distorts for a few seconds, that would be less of an inconvenience to us than if the network took the time and made sure to transmit every frame exactly as the camera picks it up, at the cost of an extra 10 seconds of lag in the call.

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MonkderVierte 7 points 5 months ago

There's pretty basic UDP, that sends without confirming receiving. And instead of fixing it, they just slapped another protocol, TCP, on top of it.

With only UDP, you don't know, if you get it.

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zod000 8 points 5 months ago

I asked someone this same question in an interview, not so much that it was important, but to see if they had general basic networking knowledge like they claimed to on their resume. Their highly confident explanation was "TCP is for sending, UDP is for receiving" They did not get the job, though not just because of that.

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teslekova 2 points 5 months ago

Technically correct! Just leaving out a few details.

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whosepoopisonmybuttocks 1 point 5 months ago

Did you say, "well, the way I remember it is Unsolicited Dick Pics versus Tasteful Consentual Penis"

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Francislewwis 36 points 5 months ago

That joke deserved a laugh. The class clearly wasn’t conditioned properly.

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general_kitten 1 point 5 months ago

i'd say for a class setting it deserves clearly fast exhale

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lvxferre 36 points 5 months ago
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AlphaOmega 28 points 5 months ago

I would hope the professor would have at least chuckled.

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TheFrogThatFlies 29 points 5 months ago

Imagine he hears this joke everytime he makes the question...

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Klear 23 points 5 months ago

He could have salivated a bit then.

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Tyrq 11 points 5 months ago

Well, they are there to learn after all, he didn't assume his students knew, and asked if they did. One guy in the class knew. Seems like it's working itself out, and he just needs to keep that one loaded for later in the semester when people are primed to get it.

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lvxferre 6 points 5 months ago
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Skullgrid 28 points 5 months ago

it's worse if they then continue with. "ok, well, it's interesting you said that his name rings a bell because the experiment..." like you're too dumb to have even made the joke you did.

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dumnezero 24 points 5 months ago

Maybe they just wanted to deny the positive feedback to him.

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neuracnu 17 points 5 months ago

The only acceptable response is “I heard he was good at making bitches wet.”

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Arigion 16 points 5 months ago path: 0 23625645, hotness: undefined, score: 16, children: 5
captcha 17 points 5 months ago

the experiments were no fun for the dogs

I would really expect most experiments to be no fun for animals that are experimented on

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Arigion 7 points 5 months ago

Since Pavlow is so famous you see often the dogs depicted as cute and someone ringing a bell. Not as fixated pepsin machines. At least in the past that was my mental image. Might be a me problem.

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captcha 7 points 5 months ago

No, you're right about the images, it's marketing as usual, but I never thought about this

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 5 points 5 months ago

FWIW I used to hang out with behavioral psychology grad students, who were in the Skinnerian tradition of operant conditioning research. They mostly worked with pigeons, and to transport the birds they used juice pitchers with a few air holes cut into the bottom. I asked them once how they got the birds into the pitchers and they laughed and showed me: they would just open the bird's cage and hold the pitcher up and the birds would dive head-first into the pitcher, sometimes knocking themselves out in the process.

As part of the research protocol, the birds were kept on a diet that included about 80% of their normal caloric intake; the rest of their food was provided by the reinforcements of the experiments themselves (this was done to maximize the reinforcement effect of the rewards). So those birds were way the fuck into those experiments. To add to that, these students were all behavioral pharmacologists, so in addition to getting food reinforcement the birds were also getting drugs like cocaine and heroin.

BTW a lot of people confuse the operant conditioning research with the people who put animals into cages and shock them. This is definitely not what BF Skinner was all about. In fact he wrote books on the subject of how punishment is a bad thing for all animals (including humans and pigeons).

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captcha 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, I though about pigeons and Skinner when writing that, but did not have much info about how it goes really. Thanks for sharing, that's an interesting read, and nice to know they are treated well

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Goun 16 points 5 months ago

Now I'm hungry

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HumanOnEarth 17 points 5 months ago

I just drooled all over myself and I have no idea why

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llamatron 15 points 5 months ago

Or everyone has heard that same joke a thousand times already

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FinjaminPoach 12 points 5 months ago
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Saapas 15 points 5 months ago

I've heard that same joke a million times. It's what I'd expect to find at the top of a Reddit thread.

It's a witty joke but a common one, so wouldn't chuckle tbh

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FiskFisk33 4 points 5 months ago

Should have accompanied the jokes with treats

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alternategait 12 points 5 months ago

Historical image of a dog on a table and Pavlov surrounded by several people. Impact font text reads "I bet Pavlov loves that we think of dogs whenever we hear his name"

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CrabAndBroom 11 points 5 months ago

For the life of me I can't remember how we got to the subject, but once we were talking about attaching speakers to a dog and I called it "Dolby Surround Hound." I was very proud of that one and it went completely unacknowledged.

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OozingPositron 4 points 5 months ago

Dogby.

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NotSafeForWorld 3 points 5 months ago

Maybe because it already exists. I believe the company is called SoundHound or something

/s

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 8 points 5 months ago

Did he expect everyone to start drooling over him?

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ThatWeirdGuy1001 1 point 5 months ago

Two people missed the joke it seems

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A_Chilean_Cyborg 8 points 5 months ago

good pun

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 6 points 5 months ago

I would have said "wasn't Pavlov the guy who had a dog named Ruby Begonia?" and even the prof wouldn't have known what the fuck I was talking about.

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hancock 3 points 5 months ago

Context on Ruby? Im lost.

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ChickenLadyLovesLife 1 point 5 months ago

"Do Ruby Begonia ring a bell?" Even more obscurely, this Flip Wilson routine was referencing an old Amos & Andy routine where they would say something like "Do the name Ruby Begonia strike a familiar note?"

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FinjaminPoach 4 points 5 months ago
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pyre 4 points 5 months ago

what a bunch of drooling morons

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Warl0k3 3 points 5 months ago

Too obvious, don't reward someone for going after low hanging fruit...

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NigelFrobisher 2 points 5 months ago

It’s totally overrated compared to Eton Mess tbh

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diabetic_porcupine 1 point 5 months ago

Yeah like Pavlov’s Dong you know like the sound a bell makes

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lazynooblet 0 points 5 months ago

I am ignorant and unwitty - I don't get it. I thought pavlov was a game.

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