I was the only one who thought this of Erica Ortega was non-binary or trans man?

3 months ago by cuchi to c/startrek

When I started watching the series, I had this doubt. As the three seasons went by, I came to the conclusion that she was simply a woman.

There was a character in the Fallout series, Dane, and I completely missed the fact that they were non-binary. I thought they were more of a tomboy character, but no—the character is non-binary, and the actor is a trans man, if I'm not mistaken.

I want to know if I was the only one who thought Erica might be the same case.

It's weird to say because I usually try not to make assumptions about people, but sometimes I feel rude for not noticing these things sooner.

cattywampas 36 points 3 months ago

What made you assume that? Because she has short hair? She used feminine pronouns the entire time and they never made mention of her biological sex.

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lordnikon 17 points 3 months ago

Yeah I mean she was gender swamped from her TOS counterpart. But really the beauty of star trek is it really shouldn't matter. She was pilot first that happens to identity as a woman and likes her hair styled that way.

That is what was star trek all about is not about calling out each identity, race and culture in celebration in an after school special kind of way but to normalize all kinds of people being up on that bridge.

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cuchi 4 points 3 months ago

she was gender swamped from her TOS counterpart.

What you mean with this? I didn't understand.

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generallynonsensical 10 points 3 months ago

I'm assuming they meant "swapped" and not swamped.

Unless gender swamping is a thing now. I can't keep up.

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Tar_alcaran 4 points 3 months ago

Gender swamping sounds like some kind of agender thing I'm too old to understand and will just nod along with.

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lordnikon 5 points 3 months ago

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/...

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Cris_Citrus 3 points 3 months ago

That link seems broken for me, it says "bad title"

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LadyMeow 12 points 3 months ago

A bit tomboyish, maybe. She was quite dashing as the knight from the fantasy book episode. And definitely had a thing going with the ranger character.

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cuchi 5 points 3 months ago

I forgot about being the knight of a fantasy book during that episode, well, that something else who make me doubt she was a female.

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CmdrShepard49 12 points 3 months ago

Doubt why? Unless they are actually labeling her as trans or non-binary in the show there shouldn't be any reason to doubt what she presents herself as. In Discovery they had a non-binary character (Adira) and addressed it head-on before SNW was even airing.

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cuchi 1 point 3 months ago

My doubt it was if she was a woman with short hair or actually a transgender man.

Not all person introduce as trans, so I feel like a fool when I find out Dane in Fallout was a man, I thought it was a woman with short hair like the case of Erica.

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cuchi 2 points 3 months ago

Her behaviour, a little bit the short hair but more the way she act, I was expecting in one episode to hear something like "My pronouns are they". Also, even if I saw the serie on english, I give more attention to the spanish subtitles, so pronouns are used slightly different.

It was my fault for having my doubts, but also when I didn't in first season of Fallout series it was actually trans, I'm wrong of don't saw it before?

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Kirk 13 points 3 months ago

I have to ask how does someone behave trans lol

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alx 6 points 3 months ago

Drink monsters and perform double jumps, mostly /j

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cuchi 3 points 3 months ago

I used to have a trans classmate in my high school who reminds me to Erica Ortega.

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dkppunk 24 points 3 months ago

I didn’t, but I’m also a short haired woman who sometimes behaves the way she does and isn’t super girly.

I just thought she was the hottest person on the bridge of that starship, regardless of gender.

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cuchi 8 points 3 months ago

For me the hottest is Pike, is a very handsome man and his hair is cool as hell.

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dkppunk 2 points 3 months ago

Captain Pike is a close second in my book. I adore his hair and he’s super fucking handsome!

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haverholm 2 points 3 months ago

Wait, Christina Pike is a man? /s

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cuchi 1 point 3 months ago

You thought it Pike was a grandma for his white hair? /s

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SharkWeek 4 points 3 months ago

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thezeesystem 12 points 3 months ago

I thought she was too. Then it made me sad she wasn't. The main reason is because I know a lot of non-binary people who kinda look And act in the same kinda way so I guess I was just presuming she would be.

But if course of she was explicitly non-binary they wouldn't be able to have more then 2 seasons because of waves at everything.

But yeah I did too.

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hendrik 5 points 3 months ago

For some reason, La'an Noonien-Singh and Erica Ortegas always remind me of the Belters from The Expanse. No idea if it's the make-up or hairstyle. Wonder if that's just me... But every other scene I expect them to drop the fake accent, speak Belter language and plot against someone. Especially La'an sometimes shows character traits which go roughly that direction. Make-up art also fits.

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Tar_alcaran 7 points 3 months ago

They both have VERY strong Camina Drummer energy.

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GeeDubHayduke 2 points 3 months ago

BELTA LOWDA!

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ProfThadBach 1 point 3 months ago

I have always thought of her as a woman but really that haircut does nothing for her.

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cuchi 2 points 3 months ago

Don't take me wrong, I used to been a long hair man and people think I was a woman, but it was for more reasons than just the haircut, but I cannot explain exactly why I thought she gonna be a non-binary or trans male.

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09-03	SNW 4x07	“Like Chronitons Through the Hourglass”
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