FBI Tried to Flip Anti-ICE Protesters Into Informants

a day ago by cm0002 to c/usa

“They were asking me to inform,” said a protester, one of dozens contacted by the FBI, who was arrested while playing the cello at ICE’s Delaney Hall.

Rozendaal was arrested by the New Jersey State Police and, according to an arrest report viewed by The Intercept, charged with one count of obstructing law enforcement. The charge was minor — but a week later, things took a strange turn when Rozendaal received a call from the FBI.

“The agent said, ‘We’re calling because you were arrested at Delaney Hall,’” Rozendaal told The Intercept. (The FBI declined to comment.)

In the following minutes, Rozendaal said the agents asked if he would be willing to provide the FBI with information on protesters that they described as “anybody planning to go to Delaney Hall with not the right intentions.”

“So, I mean, they were asking me to inform,” Rozendaal said.

Rozendaal is not the only Delaney Hall protester to receive a call from the FBI.

In the weeks since arrests began stacking up at the protests — approximately 90 people have been arrested so far — at least half of those taken into custody have received calls from federal agents looking for information, according to Benjamin Van Meter, a deputy public defender with the Essex County Public Defender’s Office who represents a number of protesters facing charges

Zaktor 35 points a day ago

There's lots of people planning to go to Delaney Hall with not the right intentions. They're ICE agents.

You can't be so circumspect about your asks when you're backing up the American gestapo.

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verdare 3 points a day ago

We’we just smol beans, and youw being vewy mean to us, uwu. Won’t you hewp us pwotect the concentwation camps?

  • The FBI, I presume.
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Kolanaki 14 points a day ago

I'd let them believe they've turned me then feed them absolute shitposts of misinfo.

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FiniteBanjo 7 points a day ago

That is a wonderful plan and absolutely worth the risks, but just so everyone knows what those risks are:

Refusing to be an informant is legal.

Being an informant is (usually) legal.

Be careful sending disinformation as an informant because they could try to charge you with obstruction of justice and making false reports to law enforcement, although given how unlawful the ICE is you could probably get away with claiming entrapment. These dudes work more for private prison industry than the US Government, putting people in their work camps is the whole goal.

EDIT: Oh, here is an idea, have another person send you the false information via text or email, then when you provide that disinformation to the fuzz it is totally legal: you didn't lie and the person who did lied to you not the fuzz.

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Fishnoodle 1 point a day ago

But you're just passing information that you come across. It's the agency and agents that decide to act on it.

Then again, how long do you want to spend in jail to eventually win your trial? How much can you afford for bail? And a good lawyer? Will you get fired from your job?

That's how the state terrorizes us into compliance.

You can't afford to be disobedient if it costs you a job, or health insurance.

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Bane_Killgrind 6 points a day ago

Have a friend email you shit post plans for deniability, so you can say it was "to the best of your knowledge" all real

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Kolanaki 6 points a day ago

Go the Billy Madison janitor route. Completely true info, but also completely useless and irrelevant.

"The anarchists... Like drinking water. Miss Libby's dress... Is green."

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kobra 9 points a day ago

“anybody planning to go to Delaney Hall with not the right intentions.”

I think this depends on who you ask.

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gravitas_deficiency 8 points 21 hours ago

So like… how are they going to deal with the fact that more than a few people would probably take them up on it with zero intention whatsoever of giving them any accurate information? Or better yet, effectively working as double-agents?

They clearly do not understand how much people vehemently hate ICEatzgruppen.

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Tinidril 4 points 15 hours ago

I definitely wouldn't recommend anyone do this. It's not like you are going to exhaust the FBI of resources, and every question you answer, truthfully or otherwise, makes you more vulnerable to prosecution and/or harassment.

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gravitas_deficiency 1 point 14 hours ago

I think there’s a valid defense to lying there, because there’s implied coercion and threat (“we are contacting you because you were arrested at …”), which means you’re under duress despite having done nothing wrong and being released. And you’re not under oath. So… idk.

IANAL though - this is not legal advice.

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Tinidril 1 point 9 hours ago

I'm not a lawyer either, but I'm pretty sure "I thought they were investigating me" is not a valid defense for obstructing justice.

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ParlimentOfDoom 1 point 17 hours ago

I feel like that's kind of par for the course when it comes to informants. They're turned individuals from whatever organization they need info on. That information is bound to be suspect, at best.

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bacon_pdp 0 points a day ago

Say yes and start spoon feeding them ICE agent names

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