Russian lawmaker threatens to 'blow up half of Finland,' says country turning into 'second Ukraine'

3 months ago by Zapados to c/world

Aleksey Zhuravlyov, first deputy chair of Russian State Duma Defense Committee, said Moscow would strengthen its military presence along the border with Finland and could easily destroy half the count...
neidu3 68 points 3 months ago

"You and what army?"

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underscore_ 7 points 3 months ago

Maybe the would like the northern fleet docked <200k from the Finnish boarder at Severomorsk to get some action? And by action I mean likely involuntary submersion.

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nymnympseudonym 58 points 3 months ago

He's right.

If Finland enters the war, Russia can look forward to 2x the drone strikes on its fossil fuels and 2x the rate of 200/400 cargo

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CompactFlax 28 points 3 months ago

Even if Finland isn’t ready to go with the drones, you know Ukraine is shipping hundreds to take advantage of new launch sites!

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quick_snail -22 points 3 months ago

Are you advocating for war crimes?

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echodot 29 points 3 months ago

Fuel refineries are legitimate military targets. You're getting confused between fuel refineries and schools, Russia often makes that mistake. They look so similar.

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murmelade 1 point 3 months ago path: 0 24491540 24496428 24506041 24506565, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 2
JustEnoughDucks 4 points 3 months ago

From your linked article:

Russia's call for an emergency meeting despite its own attacks on Ukrainian civilians was also questioned by several nations.

Pretty much every nation in war commits war crimes. I would seriously struggle to find a country or entity that didn't... People don't just have the soldiers line up nicely and shoot at each other until one side surrenders.

Pretty rarely do countries get investigated or convicted for war crimes... The worst like the US and Israel just ignore it either way.

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quick_snail -3 points 3 months ago

Bombing civilian infrastructure is a war crime.

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Cethin 9 points 3 months ago

Lol.

Bridges also are, right? And civilian factories producing electronics, that the military happens to use, right? What is allowed to be targeted?

Maybe the Russian people should do something to ensure they stop being attacked. It's all on them, not the defenders. Meanwhile, Russia is striking apartment buildings.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 3 points 3 months ago

So Truman went to jail?

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echodot 2 points 3 months ago

Clean civilians as a war crime. I'm not sure how many civilians on the regular take a wander through an oil refinery.

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frog 44 points 3 months ago

Um... did this guy forget Finland is part of the EU? Lol

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sik0fewl 24 points 3 months ago

NATO, too.

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hunnybubny 7 points 3 months ago

Russia is at war with NATO since Putin took over. At least propaganda wise. Why do you think their media ghouls keep hitting that "nuke it" red button at the first queue of Europe.

It is the reason tankies keep slinging same narrative.

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Tollana1234567 0 points 3 months ago

putins also funding all the far right governments too to make sure nato cant form a cohesive unit in the future, if they get into power.

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massive_bereavement 17 points 3 months ago

Based on how the last war went, I don't think Finland needs any help.

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TessierAshpool 26 points 3 months ago

They are so many, and we are so small Where shall we bury them all?

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GreenKnight23 12 points 3 months ago

in New Finland? previously known as Russia. it's next to New Ukraine and Bigger China.

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idiomaddict 6 points 3 months ago

Greater Mongolia should also have some space

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echodot 6 points 3 months ago

Right next to North Kazakhstan.

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Sludgehammer 21 points 3 months ago

Yeah... definitely what Russia needs now is to start Winter War part two.

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ruuster13 21 points 3 months ago

Bullies flail so predictably when they start losing.

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someguy3 18 points 3 months ago

"They continue escalation, trying in every possible way to anger Russia. We, of course, will not succumb to provocations, but we will strengthen our defense on this very significant section of the border. Even now, I assure you, we have enough military equipment concentrated there to blow up half of Finland."

Zhuravlyov accused Finland of "gradually turning into a second Ukraine" following its decision to join NATO in 2023.

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Shortstack 35 points 3 months ago

Finland has been preparing for a Russian invasion since the end of the last world war, joining the EU just made the relationship with their European neighbors official

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someguy3 14 points 3 months ago

Both the USSR and Finland figured the fight would be between the great powers and the USSR. The USSR wanted Finland to be neutral to close off that route of invasion, and Finland wanted to be neutral and sit out any war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...

Under the treaty, which was signed on 6 April 1948, the Soviets sought to deter Western or Allied Powers from attacking the Soviet Union through Finnish territory,

Under the pact, Finland was obliged to resist armed attacks by "Germany or its allies" (in reality interpreted as "the United States and allies")[citation needed] against Finland, or against the Soviet Union through Finland. If necessary, Finland was to ask for Soviet military aid to do so.

The agreement also recognized Finland's desire to remain outside great-power conflicts, allowing the country to adopt a policy of neutrality in the Cold War.

Finland followed the Eastern Bloc countries' decision and did not participate in the Marshall Plan.

But that doesn't hold in today's world where Russia is little more that a terrorist country that wants bits of land, so they joined NATO.

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Triumph 7 points 3 months ago

Air power / missile technology is way beyond what it was in 1948, too. Attacking "from Finland" might be convenient, but it is not at all necessary.

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someguy3 6 points 3 months ago

Neutral countries usually means a no fly zone, and that probably goes for low flying missiles too.

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hemko -1 points 3 months ago

Finland is ready for the invasion - assuming Russia doesn't have any technology developed since 1940

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Ioughttamow 7 points 3 months ago

Russia already blew their load and couldn’t defeat Ukraine. Finland bloodied Russia when it was a real world power. I guess they have nukes, but that’s in reality a losing move. The paper tiger has crumpled. That’s what a kleptocracy gets you, weakness

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echodot 4 points 3 months ago

They've invented lots of technologies since the 1940s unfortunately for Russia they then burnt it all in the first 6 months of the war so now they're back to Soviet era tanks.

Meanwhile everybody else's stock by all is still at 100%.

China is also unlikely to be too supportive in that area, they would like Russia to win against the West, but they also know that's not going to happen without China joining the war (Russian air force essentially no longer exists and their navy has been effectively neutralised), and they don't want to do that. So second best option is to let Russia collapse and then take a bit of territory from themselves.

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MonkderVierte 3 points 3 months ago

Says the one who regularly violates Finnlands (and other nordic countries') borders with Jets and boats?

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dontbelievethis 18 points 3 months ago

Isn't now the perfekt time to invade Russia?

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saltesc 5 points 3 months ago

Too warm for the Finns. Wait 'til next winter.

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kalapala 10 points 3 months ago

Oh the tradition of being scared and barking.

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Phantaloons 10 points 3 months ago

Finland: Go on then.

Russia: Help, comrade, I went up fjord and am stuck in snow.

Finland: Fuck off

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AngryCommieKender 9 points 3 months ago

"one of the Russian soldiers comes crawling back out of the treeline, and yells, 'Don't believe him! There are 2 of them!'"

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P1k1e 3 points 3 months ago

They always send the second guy out in Summer

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wizzor 4 points 3 months ago

I mean, Finland is so nice in the summer you gotta let people take their month off then rather than in winter.

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P1k1e 1 point 3 months ago

Lol my buddy went back to finland to serve for a few years and he said summer was the swampiest shit he's ever seen. He certainly had a good time tho

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SaveTheTuaHawk 8 points 3 months ago

Second country you will lose to?

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DaTingGoBrrr 6 points 3 months ago

Watch Putin attack Finland to trigger NATO just because he can. He already knows he's finished. I don't think the Russian people or the oligarchs are very happy with him.

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SaveTheTuaHawk 3 points 3 months ago

no one liked Stalin either but they were terrified of him.

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echodot 3 points 3 months ago

Whereas of course he was their favourite person before the war.

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DaTingGoBrrr 2 points 3 months ago

They didn't mind him at least and let him run the country the way he wanted. He needs support from Russians to continue existing as their leader.

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echodot 3 points 3 months ago

He's a dictator. They can't exactly deselect him.

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DaTingGoBrrr 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah sure, but he's not immortal or untouchable. Dictators can and has been removed from power previously.

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Zephyr 2 points 3 months ago

They're in a bad position long-term. I get him trying to bring back some Soviet glory but didn't work out the way they expected. Now the only sliver of hope they have is snagging up those natural gas fields in Eastern Ukraine.

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altphoto 6 points 3 months ago

That dude looks like he just came from krypton.

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Tollana1234567 2 points 3 months ago

the phantom zone. he got a "Stern" talking from putin that there is a window waiting for him if he doesnt issue threats.

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SeeMarkFly 6 points 3 months ago

Which half?

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frog 8 points 3 months ago

I would also like to know.

The tip or the shaft?

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Evil_Incarnate 7 points 3 months ago

Probably the half past the kehä III.

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DupaCycki 2 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the article, but please try to post garbage-free links. The link in this post is like 3 pages long.

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TheStaffmaster 1 point 3 months ago

Does ol' Simo have some grandkids? Perhaps Russia would like to meet them this winter.

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echodot 1 point 3 months ago

Ok I'll put that on my list of things that are definitely not going to happen.

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Tollana1234567 1 point 3 months ago

its one of the good ones, that putin wont defenestrate yet.

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