And that's the other thing, dude has been being AGGRESSIVELY smeared since he announced his run. And it's very obviously because he's one of the only candidates in the US that are espousing actual leftist talking points. It's also why I was immediately skeptical when I heard this.

Dude was defending people getting the SS doppelrune tattoo'd as "military tradition" or whatever on reddit. He had the tattoo for 18 years, there is nothing "quick" about it.

German here. Is there any real image of the tattoo anywhere? I could only find some images with a big black blob.

he only covered it when pressured by national outcry, he spent his adult life with a nazi tattoo and never regretted it.

I fucking hate nazi apologists.

You can always tell who doesn't understand how memes work because they think it's a static form of expression that can't be altered in any way

Sorry for the late reply, shitposting comments always federates really slowly for some reason.

If your instinct is to think the guy with the Nazi tattoo openly talked about how he enjoys war and killing people, bombed a city center, without being ordered, was a guard at one of the most infamous torture centers we know of, and joined fucking Blackwater isn't an opportunist psycho taking advantage of you, you've crossed the line from sympathetic to gullible.

Yes, in fact, we are that desperate.

One of the gubernatorial candidates here in California was a private prisons billionaire with a progressive platform who took the climate crisis seriously. He got third place and beat the progressive woman who at most has temper issues.

I'm personally afraid of establishment Democrats doing nothing and going full Neville Chamberlain.

I'm actually just in favor of putting violent impulsive murderhobos in rooms full of congressmen. I know the system can't and won't work for me.

You think this might be a psyop by the military to discredit progressive moments as a whole by having a progressive candidate that's the worst human they could get to be a believable candidate?

Not sure if I worded that right, but hopefully you get what I'm tryna say

Okay but consider his pattern of violently impulsive bad behavior.

Violent. Impulsive. Electing him would put him in a room full of congressmen.

The rape allegation is pretty credible. Unless they've fabricated old texts and emails and gotten multiple people to lie about hearing her talk about it, it's legit. I have been a staunch Platner supporter and fought through a lot of bullshit and bad-faith Astroturfing against him, but this one isn't setting off my bullshit alarms. And it will kill his campaign.

However, if he drops, there are three solid options. First is Troy Jackson, an older guy who will vote exactly the same but looks like he golfs instead of like he kills people. Or Janet Mills, which would be a little frustrating but honestly pretty good as old-guard Dems go. Forgot the name of the third, but she's a young woman with progressive stances and would also be great. Odds are Platner will drop out and one of them will get the nomination by some emergency means, likely not a proper election.

I hope it's Troy Jackson. He did decently in the primary and is the best drop-in replacement for Platner.

I see, nazis are only bad then conservatives have them.

See, this right fucking here is exactly it. I'm not American but this would be my exact frustration with the situation if I were.

People on the left were so desperate for the representation

There have been plenty of criticism aimed at corporations, for example, and how their support for progressive movements was mainly performative, such as rainbow logos during pride month. It was often described as "pinkwashing" or "rainbow-washing."

And that's just scratching surface.

Moderates weren't happy as soon as his first scandals came out, but the left cried foul at any criticism. The only reason they are happy now is because all of you with your lame ass critical support of him has been exposed and you're running like rats from the sinking ship. They are NOT happy about the election itself, which the leftists darling candidate has completely fucked up. If you want representation then find someone viable to represent you, balls in your court, next time maybe you can find someone that isn't a an obvious trainwreck of a human being, but that seems to come with the territory.

The problem with your logic is that you are saying knowingly gets a Nazi tattoo, but you're against anyone having a Nazi tattoo, knowingly or not. So, let me take a slight detour before I get to the point.

The problem I have with an absolutist statement like that is that there are plenty of reasons someone might have a Nazi tattoo, even knowingly, that wouldn't make me immediately not support them. Now, given that statement, the circumstances are probably gonna be pretty stringent, but I don't think it's necessarily unforgivable or even disqualifying... BUT I think it mostly is, especially because you're right that you can probably find someone that is just as good as whoever I could find that fits the bill, but does not and has not ever had a Nazi tattoo. So, like... I guess the point is simple.

You're right. And I am wrong.

I think it's worth noting that many of the people who supported him did not do so out of idiocy. They were taken advantage of, their willingness to forgive exploited. They knew all of these things and were wary of them, but chose to ignore them because they were lied to about the kind of person he was. They trusted him. And they were scammed.

It is easy to say in hindsight that this was easy to see. I was willing to forgive the tattoo at first and the military service at first (though, not the mercenary work, nor the reddit comments, and definitely not the fucking rape) because, well, in some ways I am kinda gullible, and in other ways, I kinda give a lot of leeway to certain privileged people (mostly rich white men) who make mistakes that ruin lives because they never considered the consequences of their actions because society allows them to do so with little to no repercussions, and that subconsciously affects my opinions.

For the record, I wasn't a Platner supporter before this, but I understand how many of them got there. He said a lot of things that people desperately wanted to hear, and that is how people get scammed. They aren't dumb, even if they did act like morons. They're desperate. They're hopeful for anything that can make their lives better. They're even gullible to believe a man with a Nazi tattoo who was a Blackwater mercenary that assaulted many women was a good candidate, and responsible for perpetuated a culture that allows these horrible decisions to continue not being as bad as they should rightfully be. But, even though I understand why you think so, I still don't think they're stupid. And maybe that's another thing on me.

Platner aside, are you saying if someone had a controversial tattoo at any point in their life, then you would never vote for them?

Don't be a Nazi rapist. -impossible standards of the puritanical left.

I been saying fuck him since day 1, but calling him or his supporters Nazi is flat-out ridiculous. He was an ex-Nazi at worst.

Anyone can and should fix their ideology but nobody can undo their actions. Killing peoples for fun, and [very likely] sexually assaulting women can not be undone