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expr 37 points a month ago

Fave: vim First: vim Future: vim Honorable mention: vim Loathed: anything other than vim Current: vim Longest: believe it or not, vim

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mcheva 24 points a month ago

Is that just cause you don't know how to close it?

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30p87 35 points a month ago

Fave: vim
First: notepad.exe
Future: vim
Honorable mention: vi
Loathed: Everything but (neo)?vim?
Current: vim
Longest: vim

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grte 15 points a month ago

I'd make my own reply but this person speaks for me.

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lime 22 points a month ago

writing a text editor in a shell language is certainly... a choice. also this kinda feels like an ad for your own project.

anyway i've gone notepad, np++, eclipse, sublime, atom, vim, nvim, back to vim, then vis, then vim again, and now helix, which i'll hopefully stick with a while. worst has gotta be the GMod Wiremod Expression editor. honorable mention to acme.

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Digit 13 points a month ago

Don't use fin. It, like all my stuff, is scruffy.

It's just honestly my fave (~ Would be weirder if I were writing it masochistically to not be my fave). Wrote it with intention of using it in the future.

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lime 8 points a month ago

as long as you're having fun and learning. although i don't know if it's dogfooding if you're a one-man band; seems more like just cooking.

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Digit 6 points a month ago

had an itch, and when the whim took inspiration, scratched it.

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Valmond 3 points a month ago

It's such a shame np++ doesn't exist on linux πŸ˜”

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HouseWolf 8 points a month ago

I mentioned it in my own comment but there's a pretty much 1 to 1 clone of Notepad++ on Linux called Notepadqq

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Valmond 4 points a month ago

Thanks! Will check out!

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lime 5 points a month ago

gedit and kate are better alternatives honestly. and with their security practices i would rather be without.

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Valmond 1 point a month ago

Interesting, what are their bad security practices?

I have kate but it's way behind notepad++, IMO! Will check out gedit, thanks.

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lime 5 points a month ago

they did their autoupdate through an unencrypted connection, without any verification, and just executed the payload locally. when pressed about it they added https but then it turned out they had no auth on the update server. it was a whole thing, took several years for them to correct and they complained every step.

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zarkanian 3 points 25 days ago

What about Geany?

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Valmond 1 point 24 days ago

Another text editor to check out, thanks!

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sleepmode 2 points a month ago

Oh damn, I forgot about acme. Plan 9 is a trip.

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bold_omi 9 points a month ago
  • Favorite: Helix
  • Future: Helix
  • Current: Helix
  • Loathed: Anything with JavaScript, a mandated - - GUI, or non-modal keybinds
  • First: Vim
  • Longest: Helix
  • Honorable mention: Kakoune
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clay_pidgin 5 points a month ago

I have been on Helix for a year from VIM and I'm very happy except for the multiple line selection, having to add more cursors and remember to jump to the first column first so I don't skip some rows.

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Sxan 4 points a month ago

Are you me??

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bold_omi 4 points 25 days ago

Maybe. Are you a Rust programmer who loathes genAI?

P.S. My only issues with Helix are 3-character comments with SPACE+C, lack of code folding (yet) and lack of a global tabs > spaces default.

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Sxan -2 points 25 days ago

No, and a qualified no.

Helix is missing a lot of features I want. Despite ΓΎis, I still prefer it to vim because of its speed and consistency, and to kakoune because kak's heavy chording aggravates my carpel tunnel. But, yeah, it's aggravating having to fall back on vim -d bc ΓΎere's no way to do ΓΎat in hx.

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bold_omi 1 point 24 days ago

You can get pretty close with window splitting. A diff view is likely to be added eventually, though.

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quediuspayu 8 points a month ago

I'm a typewriter guy.

I love my olivetti Linea90 as a work horse, for leisure typing it is either an olivetti Lettera DL or a Princess 300.

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remilia 4 points a month ago

I'm guessing it's a bit difficult to edit config files on it? 🀭

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drre 5 points a month ago

not really, llms have become quite good at extracting text from scans. /s

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quediuspayu 4 points a month ago

Because of the missing characters

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lemonhead2 8 points a month ago

interesting how things turned out today. no one will spend time configuring an editor anymore, and just use a pre-configured, possibly web based, default.

I started with ms dos edit/borland. moved to Linux and emacs/xemacs shortly after (this was when the two editors were split).

got emacs pinky and moved to vim. stayed with vim for 15+ years. finally moved to neovim (because of the Firefox extension firenvim)

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smiletolerantly 8 points a month ago
find modules/nixvim/ -name "*.nix" -type f -exec cat {} + | wc -l
3890

I'd say I've spent enough time configuring neovim πŸ˜„

(Btw, highly recommend configuring neovim through nixvim if you're already using nix. Incredibly stable. I had to fix one plugin or another all the time with plain nvim. Now, literally never. Plus, nix run github:<username>/<repo>#nvim on any nix-enabled system, and get dropped into your exact config, keybinds, theme, plugins and all. I've set it up to expose language-enabled variants by appending e.g. .go or .python to that command.)

(Sorry my comments tend to go off-topic)

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lemonhead2 3 points a month ago

interesting how things change. i started out downloading scripts from vim.org before the github days. finally after 10years I got fed up and looked for a plugin manager. moved to packer.

a couple of years later, that went dead so I was forced to move again. now I'm on lazy.nvim which works well for me.

nvim decided to ship a default plugin manager. im dreading the day I have to migrate to that... (not cause it's better/worse, but cause migrating is a pain)

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smiletolerantly 2 points a month ago

Funny, I also went from packer to lazy.nvim, but then hopped off and redid my config in nix. Hadn't actually heard about the default package manager. That seems like a good thing for the ecosystem!

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Digit 1 point a month ago

My fave comment. Handy.

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Digit 3 points a month ago

no one will spend time configuring an editor anymore, and just use a pre-configured, possibly web based, default.

Well call me "no one".

wc ~/.emacs.d/config.org
4831  21376 200536 /home/digit/.emacs.d/config.org

(... not to mention having written my own, in fish, since I know fish better than I know elisp (despite using them for around the same length of time), with the goal of it being simple to extend and reconfigure for fish users (like me, wanting a better handle on my text editor reconfiguring and learning how to better use the configuration language.)).

emacs pinky

setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps

Save you, it can. ;)

Though, then there's also evil-mode, and spacemacs and doomemacs, which I think both have evil-mode on by default.

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lemonhead2 2 points a month ago

I'd swapped control and capslock almost immediately and still got emacs pinky. when I found vim, I decided I liked it more than the escape meta alt control shift madness, and quit. the vim script was better than elisp, but not great. neovim lua is better than vim script, but still a little lacking.

i too have thousands of lines in my neovim config... but if I was starting today, the point and click editors are adequate enough that I might not invest the time.

that said, I just added two plugins into my config today πŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒ

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HotsauceHurricane 7 points a month ago

Fave: micro
First: nano
Future: eMacs? Honorable mention: helix Loathed: vim/neovim Current: micro Longest: micro

I'm a micro fanboy.

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rumschlumpel 3 points a month ago

There are dozens of us!

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HotsauceHurricane 3 points a month ago

Tobias Funke from the show Arrested Development pointing and yelling,"THERES DOZENS OF US! DOZENS!

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Ziglin 1 point 25 days ago

How does one come about disliking vim but still finding helix attractive? It is rather similar as far inputs go.

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HotsauceHurricane 1 point 25 days ago

Idk. It was purple and. Aught my attention for a min.

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palordrolap 7 points a month ago

Fave: I don't really do favourites, but I tend to reach for nano because it's usually installed and I prefer it to the vi family.

First: The 8-bit Commodore screen editor was hard to beat for its time, so let's go with that, even though I probably used the BBC Micro arrow / copy system before that.

Future: Heck if I know. I installed micro but haven't touched it yet. Maybe one day I'll get around to that. Or an IDE. So probably nano.

Honourable mention: An editor I worked on for a project once. There's something to be said for editing an editor's source code inside itself.

Loathed: ed / edlin

Current: Let's go with nano again, but I do lot more typing on command lines and in browser text boxes, like this one.

Longest: If pico counts as proto-nano, then definitely nano. Been using that since the '90s.

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Digit 1 point 24 days ago

First: The 8-bit Commodore screen editor was hard to beat for its time, so let’s go with that, even though I probably used the BBC Micro arrow / copy system before that.

Yep. I couldn't remember the names of the text editors I used on those old 4-bit green radiation-gun computers of the 70s-80s... so I just went with first after becoming a windows refugee. What a great blast from the past though, thinking of my early days, with commodores, spectrums, bbc-micros, and whatever that one we had from before that was called. M-mm-mmmm. Joyous nostalgia kick. :)

There’s something to be said for editing an editor’s source code inside itself.

True that. :)

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JakoJakoJako13 6 points a month ago

I'm honestly torn between Nvim and Emacs right now. I'm a long time vim user and been on Nvim for 10+ years. The rate at which they change config methods kinda drives me nuts. The change from vimscript to lua, and then a new mixup of lua to another syntax of lua, NEED TO CHANGE THE LUA!!!!!! It's too much. I really did a yearly config rewrite for a while because the plugin ecosystem moves lightning fast. Now most of the time I feel like I'm using a half baked config solution even on a new from scratch setup.

Emacs feels like a breath of fresh air. I'm still working out the kinks but it feels like it just works when I tell it to do something. I'm not using evil mode. I dove head first into vanilla and it's been really nice. ELisp is wild. I have no fucking clue what I'm doing with it, but it all seems to be working. The fact that it took me 3 days to get my Emacs setup to where I am with Nvim and beyond was a great start to the switch. I'm really enjoying Emacs and there's definitely a past version of me going 'What the fuck' right now.

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Digit 2 points 24 days ago

I really did a yearly config rewrite for a while

In my experience, which seems to be identical experience of many, including the one who got me into emacs, emacs config re-writes tend happen every decade, rather than every year. Nice and peaceful like that. :)

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JakoJakoJako13 1 point 24 days ago

That's refreshing to hear. I really got tired of messing with my nvim config all the time. I'm in that state with Emacs right now but I hope that once I'm done it's a set it and forget it experience.

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Digit 1 point 24 days ago

I hope that once I’m done it’s a set it and forget it experience.

While that's possible, there are also so many things to entice one into adding more.

But that's still much more pleasant a blessing, making changes because of something you want, rather than because of something the developers did.

Though, as for "done"... many emacs users [especially those who got really infected with emacs] may tell you it's never done. ;)

It's plausible though.

Some say the default config is, for them, done.

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Cheebus 6 points a month ago
  • Neovim for terminal
  • Sublime for GUI
  • Word for when i’m feeling masochistic (jk)
  • Notepad++ was first
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remilia 6 points a month ago
  • Fave: GNU Emacs
  • First: MS DOS Edit
  • Future: GNU Emacs
  • Honorable Mention: Jed and Zile
  • Loathed: Visual Code
  • Current: GNU Emacs
  • Longest: GNU Emacs
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MrKoyun 5 points a month ago

for GUI I use sublime and for terminal I use nano

its a peaceful life

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HouseWolf 5 points a month ago

Fave: Kate

First: GNOME Text Editor

Future: Kate

Honourable Mention: Notepadqq used it for a after when I first switched from Windows where I used Notepad++

Least Liked: Vim

Current: Kate

Most used: Kate

For anything CLI related I use Micro.

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TeaWithDani 3 points a month ago

What made you switch from Notepadqq to Kate? I'm currently still stuck on my Notepad++ bias too.

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HouseWolf 5 points a month ago

I reinstalled my system at somepoint and just decided to used Kate since I didn't have NPQQ installed.

It ended up having everything I needed from NPQQ.

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TeaWithDani 3 points a month ago

sudo apt install kate it is then!

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muusemuuse 5 points a month ago

TUI-nano (you vi people are insane. I will die on this hill) GUI-as long as it’s not ms word, I could give a damn

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cows_are_underrated 1 point 25 days ago

A GUI is nice, but becomes obsolete, once you know the keybindings. I personally disabled all GUI elements of my editor (emacs) because I don't need them anyway.

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nil 5 points a month ago
  • Fave: Helix
  • First: VSCode
  • Future: idk
  • Honorable Mention: Zed
  • Loathed: Visual Studio
  • Current: Helix
  • Longest: Helix
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FishFace 5 points a month ago

Least liked: any that feel the need to advertise themselves on social media

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Mensh123 5 points a month ago

That's fun! I'm currently comming from Neovim to see if Emacs is for me. I've only really used Neovim for half a year and Emacs for less than a week so who knows? I've actually only been sent on this rollercoaster ride by JetBrains trying to sneak AI training data collection into IntelliJ almost a year ago, eventually being annoyed by how clanky Eclipse is. Am I annoyed by Neovim? No, not at all, I just want to see if I like Emacs even better.

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__hetz 4 points a month ago

Fave is (Doom) Emacs, even though I haven't used it in a while. It was fun and mostly painless to customize it a tad with no prior Lisp experience. Things like Org Mode and Org Babel let me write a short story around my code blocks if I needed one to remember concepts, purposes, etc in a language I was tinkering with. They could execute in-document or I could tangle them to where they belonged. That just seemed brilliant to me. It being essentially an eLisp interpreter at its core, with the editor functionality and everything else built on top, it was neat being able to just pop open an interpreter window or tab and use what I learned for quick calculations or whatever. Previously I'd open a new terminal or tmux pane and use Python for that purpose. And currently mostly Bash and CLI utils over Python.

Pretty sure my first was EDIT.COM on MS-DOS but I would've been a single-digit age at the time and mostly clueless so I say notepad.exe instead. The window in which I used DOS was very short before the family computer started running Win 3.1. Then 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista... every version except 2000 and 8. We had 8 long enough to back up our data and revert to 7

Future, I'll probably keep trucking with nvim.

Honorable mention, gedit. My first GUI editor on Linux desktop before I leaned heavy into CLI applications.

Loathed, VSCode. I'm not a dev so it was just too much. A Vim plugin made it usable for editing, and I liked how easy plugins were to find/install, but I'm not a dev and full IDEs are wasted on me. Same reason I finally stopped trying to turn nvim into one and minimized my plugins for it.

Current is nvim. I like modal editing and its particular keybinds. I like regex search and find/replace. Multiline editing, motions, and macros defined on the fly. I bet I haven't read 2% of the built-in documentation and know it already does more than I'd ever need right out of the box. For the same reason I still often find neat things I didn't know about it and try to commit to memory for my future editing.

Longest is n/vim. That probably won't ever change for the same reasons above.

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defaultusername 4 points a month ago

ed is the one, true, standard text editor.

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Digit 3 points a month ago

I considered whimsically including ed or butterflies, maybe as honourable mention, or as wish to use in the future. [/xkcd378]

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in_my_honest_opinion 3 points a month ago

Nano

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Digit 2 points a month ago

Immolo? Is that you?

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in_my_honest_opinion 3 points a month ago

πŸ‘‹

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poinck 3 points a month ago
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milk 5 points a month ago

I wish Gnome Builder was better. Why is there not a gtk IDE that can use any lsp? Also why does VS Code have to have such awful UI and UX?

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Digit 3 points a month ago

:D Nice additional categories.

My "least liked" is also my "will never use".

Never had any forced on me.

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mosspiglet 3 points 23 days ago
  • Fave: vim
  • First: vi
  • Future: vim
  • Honourable Mention: helix
  • Loathed: win 11 notepad
  • Current: vim
  • Longest: vim
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Hiro8811 3 points a month ago

Nano for privileged editing and Kate for everything else

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cepelinas 3 points a month ago

Nano and kate I edit text, not write configs.

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sleepmode 3 points a month ago
  • fave: vim
  • first: ED-IT?
  • future: vim
  • honorable mention: emacs
  • loathed: ed
  • current: vim
  • longest: vi

vim is basically my foreverhome at this point. I feel clumsy trying to use most other things. But I also like emacs shortcuts and learned a bunch of them unwittingly via bash having that mode set out of the box.

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heliotrope 3 points a month ago
  • Fave: GNU nano
  • First: notepad.exe (on Windows XP)
  • Future: GNU Emacs
  • Honourable Mention: Xed
  • Loathed: vi (the original one, not the far superior Vim)
  • Current: GNU nano
  • Longest: Micro
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Magister 3 points a month ago

In Linux I use code for coding, and nano for everything else

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eodur 2 points a month ago

I've used so many over the years. Sublime was really cool for a bit. Notepad++ and UltraEdit look like ass but they were both daily drivers for a long time. These days I bounce between codium and vim throughout the day. I kinda hate codium/vscode but I use it for the same reason I've used vim for so long: it's functional and available everywhere.

I should really give one of the newer vim clones a closer look one of these days.

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Ziglin 2 points 25 days ago
  • Fave: helix
  • First: PS-Pad
  • Future: helix
  • Honourable Mention: GNU Emacs
  • Loathed: BlueJay? (Editor for Java)
  • Current: helix
  • Longest: VS code
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HumbleBragger 2 points 25 days ago

Not a Dev but I used VScode and codium for a while trying to learn bow to program. Definitely more than it needs to be. Sublime was the longest Since I haven't seen it here yet, honorable mention to Geany. Cool lightweight editor I've used a couple times.

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cows_are_underrated 2 points 25 days ago

Fave: Emacs
First: notepad
Future: Emacs (maybe vim)
Honorable mention: Emacs (orgmode), sed
Loathed: Nano (I can't stand using it any longer after being used to emacs)
Current: Emacs
Longest: Emacs

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cockmushroom 2 points 17 days ago
  • Fave: idk
  • First: idle (python)
  • Future: idk, something with static configuration
  • Honourable Mention: npp
  • Loathed: vscode
  • Current: helix
  • Longest: helix/sublime text
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belsedar 1 point 25 days ago

Micro, if I can reasonably get it onto a system, it will stay there. I don't really need anything more to tweak configs

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Hiro8811 1 point a month ago

Nano for privileged editing and Kate for everything else

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Digit 1 point 24 days ago

Just realised... mcedit's more accurately the longest used, at least in terms since first used [maybe ~ unsure], and would (and do) still use. But then, if longest used is counting actual time used... nnnnnnothing comes close to emacs. No other text editor serves also as my irc client, organiser, therapist, games system, rss feed, and potentially oh so much more, like email client, 3D modeler (no, seriously), video editor, data analysis, file management, graph generation, slide-show presentations, astrophysics stuff, drone piloting, publishing preparations, printer operation, 3D printer operation, databases, finance and transaction handling, accounting, audio editing, screensaver, web browser, even potentially replacing my terminal multiplexor and even my window manager.

But I did start using mcedit a clear decade before emacs. ... I probably launched each for the first time, around the same time late 2003 to early 2004, but didn't start using emacs (at all) until 2014, whereas mcedit soon became a fave (especially in the midst of the nano'ites thinking they had won their category of text editor, yet few of them seemed to have even heard of mcedit).

... Ah well, even though it's still legit, if I had thought of it at that time, I could have wrangled mcedit into longest, leaving room for something else as honourable mention. ... Maybe neovim. Maybe leafpad.

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vrighter 1 point 25 days ago

fave, current, longest: neovim first: qbasic ide loathed: anything with ai "features" built in

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3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
  • Don't come looking for advice, this is not the right community.
4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves / tolerates / hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
5. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Language/язык/Sprache
  • This is primarily an English-speaking community. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ
  • Comments written in other languages are allowed.
  • The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
  • Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
6. (NEW!) Regarding public figures

We all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations.

  • Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
  • We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
  • Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed.

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Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.

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