Dying of prosperity, 14TB HDD left unused

2 days ago by NotAgaug to c/selfhosted

I got into self hosting almost a year ago. Since then, I bought (low) hundreds of dollars worth of hardware, but I've never used any of my services outside of testing. My server is left unused since may (I think).

Now I've found a use for my server, but my HDD, (which I bought for a good price ($150 for HC530 14TB, 10k POH) for european standards in last November) isn't really being used. To be frank, I never really used it, I don't need a NAS, I always preferred (pirated) streaming services over local streaming, so I mostly had it just to have it.

I kinda know what I can do with it. I could set up a proxmox backups on it or run a nix cache (I run NixOS on my desktop PCs, I would be using the cache, but it would be annoying to set up and cachix free tier is enough for now).

I'm also anxious to use it, because I'm scared to wear it down, but, at the same time, I know that it will degrade if I don't use it. I might want to sell it, but my previous sales on online marketplaces were abysmal and I know I might regret it if I change my mind and decide I need so much storage.

What would you suggest? If I want to keep it, how should I treat it?

ThreeKnew 60 points 2 days ago

Mirror a couple TB of anna's archive

path: 0 25350297, hotness: undefined, score: 60, children: 3
pmk 7 points 2 days ago

Just out of curiosity, how legal is this? Do you need to hide in complicated ways?

path: 0 25350297 25355716, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 2
ThreeKnew 9 points a day ago

how legal is this?

Not (depending on where you are). However, in my opinion it is absolutely ethical.

Do you need to hide in complicated ways?

Depends on where you are. For most people, yes you need to hide it, but it needn't be complicated. You can just bind your torrent client to a (trustworthy) VPN.

That said, these things always carry some risk, and that's yours to take.

path: 0 25350297 25355716 25363401, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
freeman 5 points 2 days ago

A vpn is enough for eu/switzerland, as far as I know

path: 0 25350297 25355716 25357059, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
surewhynotlem 51 points 2 days ago

Sell it. Buy beer. If you start to regret it, drink the beer.

path: 0 25350133, hotness: undefined, score: 51, children: 2
Coldcell 7 points 2 days ago

Sage advice for life, friend

path: 0 25350133 25356175, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
irmadlad 4 points 2 days ago

At current HDD prices, that'd buy a lot of beer.

path: 0 25350133 25358033, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
adoptivecactuar 32 points 2 days ago

Give it to me? 👉👈🥺

path: 0 25353333, hotness: undefined, score: 32, children: 0
Onomatopoeia 25 points 2 days ago

There's no 'wearing it down' - age is age.

If anything, unpowered drives die faster because lubricants slowly harden over time. Ah least a running drive is unlikely to suffer that fate.

Also, any drive can lose magnetic cohesion on areas of the platter - with a running drive that's maintained by a system like ZFS, these areas of magnetic loss can be automatically discovered and corrected.

Everything I've read (and from my own anecdotal experience) drives on a shelf die every bit as frequently as running drives, if not more often.

But in the end, don't go doing anything just because you feel like "you have to". I have a dozen smaller drives (500GB to 1 TB) that are just waiting for a purpose. I have a plan for them, but it's not urgent. Eventually they'll go in a Proxmox/TrueNAS/UnRAID box, when I can find a motherboard for the right price with low power draw (the drives will be the worst power consumer anyway).

path: 0 25351177, hotness: undefined, score: 25, children: 0
DigDoug 18 points 2 days ago

I always preferred (pirated) streaming services over local streaming

I suggest having a backup of some of your favourite media anyway. You never know when a service will be taken down.

What services are you using, if you don't mind me asking?

path: 0 25350756, hotness: undefined, score: 18, children: 5
NotAgaug 1 point 2 days ago

I use none. My homelab has never been operational.

path: 0 25350756 25354530, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 4
freeman 2 points 2 days ago

Had success with yams.media. Gives a basic arr-stack to begin with

path: 0 25350756 25354530 25357080, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
SuspiciousCarrot78 1 point a day ago

Protip:

If you use real-debride, it's basically a cloud cache. Meaning - after it fetches your stream / you finish watching it, it retains the download for you (30 days?) - or at least the index. So if you pop over to real-debride thereafter, you can download and store what you watched locally right quick.

There are tools that integrate the *arr stack to do just that...if you're looking to have your cake and eat it.

path: 0 25350756 25354530 25370617, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
DigDoug 1 point 2 days ago

I meant the streaming services.

path: 0 25350756 25354530 25361793, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 1
NotAgaug 1 point 2 days ago

Whatever is on top of fmhy.net list. I can link it if you want

path: 0 25350756 25354530 25361793 25362332, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
gilokee 15 points 2 days ago

Back up your digital photo library, download your favorite youtubers' entire channels, get an offline version of wikipedia...there's so much you can do! I wish I had 14TB lol, I only have like 3 right now. I'm running a jellyfin server and lyrion music server.

path: 0 25350529, hotness: undefined, score: 15, children: 5
mhzawadi 2 points 2 days ago

You know jellyfin does music right?

path: 0 25350529 25353882, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 4
gilokee 5 points 2 days ago

Yes, but Lyrion syncs devices throughout my house, like a not-shitty Google home.

path: 0 25350529 25353882 25353893, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 3
mhzawadi 3 points 2 days ago

I see, that is the bit I miss from subsonic

path: 0 25350529 25353882 25353893 25353916, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 2
gilokee 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I really recommend it! If you have old smart phones, laptops, rasp pies etc laying around you can use them!

path: 0 25350529 25353882 25353893 25353916 25354053, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
Die4Ever 14 points 2 days ago

You could just use it as cold storage. Put a bunch of stuff on there as backup and then put it in a closet.

path: 0 25350240, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 3
Onomatopoeia 11 points 2 days ago

No.

Cold storage is really "no storage". A cold drive can't tell you when an area of disk fails, or when the controller itself fails.

May as well just throw away the data, because you have no idea how much will be there when you try to power it on.

I have 8TB of data, and I get bit flips - if the drive were cold, I'd never know.

And cold drives fail just as often as hot drives.

path: 0 25350240 25351256, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 2
Die4Ever 4 points 2 days ago

I didn't mean to suggest it would be the only point of backup. If you plug it in and it works then it saves a lot of time downloading from some off-site backup.

path: 0 25350240 25351256 25352841, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 1
Onomatopoeia 1 point 2 days ago

But you don't know if it'll even power up, or if the data is valid.

path: 0 25350240 25351256 25352841 25357242, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
cmnybo 11 points 2 days ago

That's a helium filled drive, so it's got a limited lifespan whether it's running or not. I would at least set it up as a NAS and use it to store your backups.

path: 0 25352130, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 4
helix 3 points 2 days ago

What's the failure mode? Higher operating temperatures?

path: 0 25352130 25353344, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 3
cmnybo 14 points 2 days ago

The helium slowly leaks out over time. That will increase drag and decrease thermal conductivity. It will run hotter and use more power. There is a SMART attribute that will warn you when the helium is running low.

path: 0 25352130 25353344 25353838, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 2
aichan 1 point 18 hours ago

But if that is the problem, can you not just refill it? Maybe not at home if you don't want to risk it, but a disk repair shop should do, no?

path: 0 25352130 25353344 25353838 25375293, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 1
abcdqfr 2 points 17 hours ago

disk repair shops aint cheap. you go there when you lose data and NEED it back, not to top up on Helium like party balloon. Also balls expensive. You'd need a clean room just to open the thing. AFAIK there are no service ports to just chooch in more helium.

path: 0 25352130 25353344 25353838 25375293 25375669, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Blackmist 9 points 2 days ago

Jellyfin, em, I mean future AI training library...

path: 0 25354317, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 0
Cyber 8 points 2 days ago

If you're not usng it for your own purposes, I doubt you'll do what a bunch of strangers on Lemmy will tell you to do.

It needs to be running, either in your possession, or someone else's, so sell it and make some profit from the recent price rises. Put a minimum sell price on ebay and it'll go eventually.

path: 0 25353895, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
hexagonwin 7 points 2 days ago

save everything you like from the internet. nothing lasts including youtube videos

path: 0 25351456, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
ozoned 7 points 2 days ago

Run a Peertube.

path: 0 25350944, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
NarrativeBear 5 points 2 days ago

I can take some of those off your hands arrh

path: 0 25350426, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
curbstickle 5 points 2 days ago

I'd be more worried about not using it, personally.

That said, storing videos isn't the only use. I have a... fairly large NAS, and it has photos/videos I've taken (including the raws for some of my dslr photos), its the storage for my VMs, where my backups are stored (really a different NAS but appropriate for the discussion here) which are then backed up elsewhere as well, local git repos, etc, etc.

Is streaming all you do? If so, no, you don't need it.

But if you do anything else, its a good place to store that data.

path: 0 25356963, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
solrize 5 points 2 days ago

Keep it spinning and put stuff on it, or sell it, probably for more than you paid for it. Drives on the shelf tend to fail.

10K POH is a little more than a year, so it may still be under warranty.

"Anxious to use it" in colloquial English means that you are eager or in a hurry to use it, btw. The opposite of being afraid to use it, which might be what you intended to say.

path: 0 25351169, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
l3mming 4 points 2 days ago

Back up as much of hugging face and/or civitai as you can before corporations lock it all down.

path: 0 25357655, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
magnue 4 points 2 days ago

Get a bunch of security cameras and have rolling 2 months of footage if u like. Or download the entire netflix library forever.

path: 0 25353210, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 4
helix 6 points 2 days ago

download the entire netflix library forever.

I'm pretty sure this is larger than 14TB?!

path: 0 25353210 25353341, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 3
chat_mots 7 points 2 days ago

In 144p it should be doable 🔥🔥

path: 0 25353210 25353341 25353535, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
magnue 3 points 2 days ago

1080 might manage it

path: 0 25353210 25353341 25353724, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
unitedwithme 2 points 2 days ago

I have around 130TB redundant and it wouldn't equate to Netflix. Though I store in higher quality than most, but you'd need low quality like 720p utilizing h.265 or AV1 to save space to hold all that. Likely anything you download would be h.264 so you'd need to convert all that media too.

path: 0 25353210 25353341 25353724 25355178, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
Decronym 3 points 2 days ago

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
Git Popular version control system, primarily for code
NAS Network-Attached Storage
VPN Virtual Private Network
ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity

4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 11 acronyms.

[Thread #81 for this comm, first seen 18th Aug 2026, 12:10] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]

path: 0 25357014, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
abcdqfr 1 point 17 hours ago

Where has this bot been all my life? So many cryptids dropping undeclared acronyms everywhere at all times.

path: 0 25357014 25375735, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
abcdqfr 2 points 17 hours ago

Bought low? Sell high! Or will you somehow extract more value from it before it dies??

path: 0 25375774, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
devaly 2 points 2 days ago

I bought like 4x12tb disks for 150 euros each at the time. I'm already using like 27tb

path: 0 25353568, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
selfhosted
selfhosted

@lemmy.world

login for more options
61555
6650
5623

A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.

Rules:

Detailed Rules Post

  1. Be civil.

  2. No spam.

  3. Posts are to be related to self-hosting.

  4. Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or readme if you're providing a link.

  5. Submission headline should match the article title.

  6. No trolling.

  7. Promotion posts require active participation, with an account that is at least 30 days old. F/LOSS without a paywall has exceptions, with requirements. See the rules link for details. Tags [CBH] or [AIP] are required, see the links in Rule 8 for details.

  8. AI-related discussions and AI-involved promotional posts have additional requirements for tagging, as noted in Rule 7 and the AI & Promotional Post Expanded Rules post, and find example disclosures here.

Resources:

Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.

Questions? DM the mods!

go to feed...