Fired Rockstar devs don’t want you to boycott GTA 6 but ask for support - Dexerto
14 hours ago by inclementimmigrant to c/games
“Don’t boycott GTA 6. Win justice for the people who helped make it. We spent years pouring our hard work, skill, and creativity into making GTA, and we want people to experience the universe that we helped build,” former developers said. “That doesn’t mean we want to let Rockstar off the hook.”
This guy does not understand how capitalism works.
I am equally dumbfounded as well.
If only there was some way to address these unionists what demands need to be met, and what their goals truly are.
I know for sure they can't syndicate. Not on work visas.
I can see two or three reasons.
They have an ongoing lawsuit with R*, probably not the best optics to call for a boycott. Calling for the opposite shows you in a good light however. Always want to be seen as dealing in good faith when it comes to court.
Artists want their art to be seen by the world, even if they don't directly benefit from it anymore.
They don't want to be seen as vengeful by potential future employers.
1&3 seem plausible. 2) Not so much, since everyone of these unionists are merchandising their portfolios. If it's about the art, they can redo mockups of the work they want others to see in the game that hasn't been completed. For all we know, R⁎ will cut their works out.
Is iffy for two reason: plenty of non gamedev jobs out there that don't do history checks, esp. on a work visa. They did make themselves public though.
feels like the closest reason, as they have already declared themselves disassociates from the leaker. Maybe they want the court to see they were wrongfully terminated, and “should be compensated.”
For point 2 the art is the entire game, not a single model or whatever.
Most people also don't want to change industries just because of a firing and they're going to be pretty well known in the industry due to the lawsuit, in a way an employee may not necessarily want to be. Also, not all were on work visas, there were locals too. They now need to find new jobs and probably want to do it in the same industry, in the same city where they live.
Is it still boycotting if I was never going to buy it in the first place?
No, I don't sail the high seas in search of games. Never have.
I hope they win their lawsuit. But I am certainly boycotting this game and I encourage everyone else to do so as well. Rockstar has become the thing they used to satirize. Of course this game is going to be massively successful. But the more we can cut out of their sales, the better the whole industry will be. I mean shit, these assholes are actually trying to have you pay for a Netflix subscription just to watch their advertising of this trash. And that's on top of a $100 price tag for the full game.
$100 for a revokable license is straight filth. Digital ownership is important, but as a physical collector, not even having the option to buy physical is the easiest pass I will ever take. Especially for a series that has not had any significant innovation in two decades.
Won't be an issue for me - my only gaming device is a steam deck so I very much doubt I'd be able to play this even if I wanted to.
Wonder is the devs could slip a Linux port of the game out with a portable hard drive. It would be a shame if someone accidentally uploaded the game off said drive to the internet.
I just had a vision of devs sneaking into a server room and “hacking” the server to copy data onto a drive and somehow getting it out of a building with more security than Fort Knox. I’m sure it had a theme song.
Dumber things have happened. I was imagining this song.
Inshallah
I loved GTA 3, the first one I ever played and bonus, Vice City was even better! I thought GTA 4 was OK - not great, not terrible. I hated GTA 5. Similarly, I loved RDR and hated RDR 2 (I know I basically stand alone on this one).
Personally I feel like Rockstar is on a trajectory. My interest in 6 is in negative numbers. It's not like I don't like the genre. I love Cyberpunk, but even that I didn't buy until I managed to get it on sale for $20.
I might consider getting GTA 6 if it goes on sale for $5, which it won't. Hell, they still want $20 for 4 lol. Money grubbing shits.
It's GTA without cars indeed.
It was too much like RDR without horses?
So boring. It’s pretty, sure. But doing anything remotely fun means a bounty and now everyone everywhere just starts hunting you immediately. It’s so hard to earn money so you need to grind, and then whoops: another bounty. I don’t game to practice restraint! If I wanna shoot that cop’s knee, I’m gonna.
To bad not spending 100 dollars on game especially one that has no disc.
Not boycotting it per se, I’m just not getting it at launch. I think I’ll play Saints Row 3 again. Those games are so good.
You see what GTA 5 goes on sale for. You got me fucked up if you think I’m dropping $100 on GTA 6.
Not saying you should or shouldn’t buy it, but their track record is consistently 1-2 years.
GTA IV
- PlayStation 3, Xbox 360: 29 April 2008
- Windows: 2 December 2008
GTA V
- PS3, Xbox 360: 17 September 2013
- PS4, Xbox One: 18 November 2014
- Windows: 14 April 2015
RDR2
- PlayStation 4, Xbox One: October 26, 2018
- Windows: November 5, 2019
The average for recent games is somewhat driven up by RDR taking 14 years (literally multiple years after RDR2).
But GTA is their bread and butter, the old reliable. RDR was the second Red Dead game, but the first one was fairly unknown. It was also created by R* San Diego which didn't really do PC ports of its games anymore, they also didn't port Midnight Club 3 or LA. So I'm fairly sure they (San Diego) didn't plan a PC port at all. But then it was fairly successful and RDR2 even more so and they (R* corporate, not San Diego) had another company port it to Windows.
Moral of the story, this is exactly why averages are misleading compared to median
I don't exactly come from money so growing up I had a crappy PC, no consoles. Playing MC:LA was literally a dream for me when it came out, but never did I actually get around to it since once I could afford a console, I didn't really want one too badly. Now I've got Forza Horizon if I want to hoon around in beautiful looking cars I can mod. Though I haven't even gotten 6 yet.
To be completely fair, I wouldn't want to work on a project for like 5+ years and have no one see it either. But regardless of how many people join in on this boycott, the game is already a success. Plenty of people will see their work. So I say, boycott away. I guess we can't exactly say the same about Marathon though.
I'm not surprised. The actual game designers and developers tend to have passion for their work. Musicians want their to be heard, artists want their work to be seen, game devs want their work to be played.
I don't buy anything published by Take-Two Interactive, as they are scummy as fuck...So yeah, sorry about it, won't be buying this game or any other by them. Until they make some less greedy, less dev and consumer hostile choices.
Rockstar could pretty easily win this if they just pointed to the alleged thread where the supposed leaked info was and prove it was gross misconduct
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