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The ICE agents arrived after she was gone. Laurie recognized two of them from an earlier encounter. About 10 minutes later, one approached her, showed his badge and asked whether she could confirm that the passenger had checked in. Laurie refused, telling him airline employees could not provide passenger information.
As the flight neared final boarding, another ICE officer accused Laurie of interfering with the operation and pressed her to help locate the passenger. Laurie declined to say whether the woman was on the flight's passenger list and told the officer he would need to contact the airline’s corporate security department for information. “You're going to need a subpoena,” she said. No arrests were made at the gate that day.
Legend.
Unfortunately I worry that ICE is going to target Laurie in some way now :/
another ICE officer accused Laurie of interfering with the operation and pressed her to help locate the passenger.
In other words, an ICE officer tried to enslave her into government service.
I'm telling my company that I am no longer willing to fly domestic for work anymore. I'm white but fairly politically active and I guarantee I'd end up on someone's radar.
My wife keeps wanting to travel abroad for vacation. I have a hard time saying no to her most of the time, but on this one I've stood firm.
I'm not stepping foot in an airport until the brownshirts are disbanded.
Depending on how willing you are to get unconstitutionally arrested, making it an issue may be beneficial to your financial outlook. But most citizens dont has the emotional, financial, or familial availability to do so, so you do you.
I am operating under the assumption that being grabbed by ICE means you are disappearing forever, no legal chances. Despite being a citizen no rules mean anything now.
I am also assuming thats the case, I am willing to do the legal fight if Im caught in the mess, but Im not going out of my way to be there. I dont have the same responsibilities most people would have
[...] being grabbed by ICE means you are disappearing forever
I am also assuming thats the case, I am willing to do the legal fight if Im caught in the mess
What legal fight? Again, the assumption is you disappear forever. There aren't any "legal fights".
Hmmm.. I do have legal services on retainer that I could utilize for this (it's only $300/year which was less than the contract review would have been from a local lawyer). I have a number I can call if Im arrested and an attorney shows up.
Bold to assume you'd be allowed to call anyone.
Going off of this, are you able to call the retainer and give them a heads up? “I’m getting on a flight from here to there and it is at so and so time, I can update you etc. Then, if they have no contact after 24 hours, maybe they can help start an investigation, reach out to some local news orgs?
It might cost money for no reason, but is it an option?
As an American myself, I dont know now that most Americans have the cast iron balls/ovaries to stand up to ICE. They mostly dont want to be anywhere near ICE and will do anything to get away from it. Part of me doesnt blame them-- there is no expectation that ICE will be reasonable or care about your rights. They are pretty open about having zero accountability, even when they murder someone.
Be careful who you trust, airline people. These "Ice agents" are first and foremost irrational authority-fetish idiots with blanket legal immunity you dont have. If you want to take direction from them and voluntarily collaborate with them, good luck and get your checkbook ready.
The encounters have also raised concerns about the position in which they place airlines and their employees. A Phoenix couple is suing United Airlines for false imprisonment and negligence over the carrier’s role in an ICE arrest at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport.
Yup. ICE is bogarting that sovereign immunity.
Ooo so cool, dress up like a military/police man, carry a weapon ... said the 6-7 year old boy. Guess some never grew out of it and perhaps have never felt seen or accepted, and now tries to feel big by bullying others. Sad 😢
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