because educators aren't paid enough to figure out which covert spying devices exist
@Turret3857 @disorderly And lack the power to reasonably respond when they are aware
Is taking away stuff from a student not allowed any more or something? Teachers took my shit all the time, oftentimes not to be seen until the end of the school year/semester.
@FUCKING_CUNO We are talking about glasses here. Which make them harder to take away.
These devices are expensive.
Teenage girls - If you spot them... Grab them and smash them.
And don't be afraid to smash the face that wears them. Collateral damage, after all, is always expected.
As much as I haye the existence of these devices, independent of context bit especially for what this thread is about, I think that isn't a good idea. I do not trust that the girls have backing and are safe by doing this, any kid who has something this expensive will have parents that have power enough to really fuck with the lives of any girl who'd do this.
I wish this wasn't the case, but waves widely at the world proves otherwise.
Some schools in New Zealand put the camera in the bathroom themselves.
Showing may age here š¤£ but back in 2005, I had a film camera shaped like a juice box that I thought was the coolest thing on the planet. The straw was how you took pictures, the lens was hidden in the logo.
There was no film in it because I just wanted to show it off but yeah..... School didn't give a fuck.
Then again I'm autistic and I was super into the spy stuff. I think that came with one of those spy kits and I annoyed the shit out of my family with those beeping door sensors and I genuinely concerned someone by eating the edible paper. I made one of my sisters friends scream at the top of her lungs because she had no idea who I was when I wore the sunglasses with mirrors to see behind you and a fake mustache and I was into disguises.
But there's a difference between being a kid and having fun and things inadvertently happening vs being a menace and a dickhead to those around you.
Phones, cameras, watches with cameras, GoPros are all all ready allowed, why would this be any different? Some schools even have equipment to rent to make videos, or their news program has some, yearbook group, etc.
Those are far more obvious when one is filming compared to glasses that can secretly film someone at any time.
Unlike the security cameras that already do you meanā¦ yeah?
A school is a public place, thereās no reasonable expectation of privacy.
A school is a public place, thereās no reasonable expectation of privacy.
I am fucking sick and tired of this absolute garbage argument.
"No expectation of privacy" does not mean publicizing any video for any purpose is OK. It does not mean stalking is OK. It does not mean a goddamned panopticon is OK!
What's happening now -- with every act potentially stored in perpetuity, psycho-analyzed, and fed into generative AI for the purpose of deepfaking or who knows what else -- is in a wholly different category that goes beyond "public!"
I don't recall a student being able to bring a security camera to school. In fact, every single security camera I've seen in a school has (seemingly) belonged to the school, not to any individual.
Using a camera as part of a group project is very different from secretly filming people throughout the school day when they're supposed to be doing other things.
Surely you can tell the difference...
Using a camera as part of a group project
Well in that case the solution is simply to have the school provide such utensils, for use only in the time period when the project takes place.
I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about boys being victims of the manosphere but I kinda think gen-x are maybe just some of the worst fucking parents
When you are tired after both parents come home from work I can understand why parents would set their kid in front of an ipad, thinking it's harmless. Only recently are we finding out that the algorithms became extremely addictive, destroy attention spans, and push alt right influencers on impressionable young men. I'm not going to allow my kid on any screen where they have free access to the algorithm until they are at least 16.
I don't think so? Starting to creep into it though. Gen Z cut off (majority were parented by Gen X) is 14 years old right now, and people are having children older, so I think the gradient is still mostly gen X. Of course that doesn't make millennials good parents either. I'm admittedly singling out Gen X based on personal vendettas, lol
Alternating generations don't really line up with each other that well. Younger Gen Z are children of Mellenials.
I am on the ass end of Gen X (late 1970s) and almost 50. Most people had kids earlier than me and my kid is about to graduate.
The ass end š I guess we could go find the actual mixture if it really mattered.
It's really hard to take you seriously when you can't spell millennial correctly, even with spell check and autocorrect.
Nobody knows how to parent. How could anyone when every lesson you learn is outdated within a decade, if not sooner, and the environment is constantly being filled with new tech that rewrites social norms with little to no oversight? Don't expect this to improve with millenials, gen z or gen a. As long as the pace of change continues at the rate we have, the challenges of parenthood will be beyond most parents.
Agreed, looking at the article it is the parents or adults who are buying for the kids, or providing an allowance and the kids buy their own.
This is what happens when generations are raised without the word NO because some numpty has decreed saying no harms children. There was a time when NO meant NO.
I don't think they're raised with anything, not much yes either. My parents were really early Gen X, they fit the latchkey stereotype pretty well, and they had SUCH a laissez faire style of parenting that shocked me as I got older and compared more to my friends with boomer parents.
A reminder to everyone blaming parents: these children are growing up in a world where privacy doesn't exist, so how could they value it? Corporations are targeting them and influencing their opinions and changing norms with resources a parent couldn't even dream of. Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem. We're not going to suddenly get better parents anyway, sorry.
I mean, most of your early value comes from your parents (or closest adult influence), and presumably the parents needed to buy the very expensive device.
So yeah they can be blamed.
Again, we aren't going to suddenly become good parents as a species even if you're correct. And blaming the parents gets us where? We have to change all the inadequate parents? Yeah right. Blame doesn't get you anything but the ability to do nothing and feel superior about it.
Edit: Everybody that's saying it's the individual and not the system: same with cops? We can just tell them to be better and expect results?
Blaming shitty people for doing shitty things is fine. Any decent person can recognize the threat they pose. I would never buy a child (or anyone) a pair of these fucking things.
Blaming is the first step towards getting a solution from the people who caused the issue in the first place. Sometimes it's not to us, specifically, to fix things.
Blame and shame, is the name of the game.
Blaming parents is an individualistic solution to a systemic problem
A system made up of individual people....
No one EVER wants to take personal responsibility. God forbid a parent actually parent and not just hand their child's mind over to the state.
Timmy - Can I have meta glasses / mindrape myself with brainrot?
Parent - No.
Problem solved over night.
Shifting all of the onus onto the "mysterious system" is exactly what causes these issues in the first place. Its a cop out 100%. "Well I know I didnt even try but but but the system."
Change happens when individuals nut up and take things into their own hands.
The parents are shitty parents and will continue to be so as long as people keep hand-waving any and all responsibility.
If you expect people to be better than they are, you're going to be as disappointed in people as I am with your counterpoint.
Yet āit takes a school to raiseāmāā½
It is the parents job to educate children the value of privacy, and how to maintain it.
Corporations, thus capitalism, exist because the parents have allowed them to invade their privacies too. Corporations wouldn't exist if the demand for violating privacy existed: the parents are harassers too.
It's people's own fault for being surveilled? For being stalked with flock cameras, for example? Just withdraw your consent and everything's ok and capitalism collapses? If I'm incorrect in my interpretation of your words, please clarify, but in its current form I'm not challenged by it.
It is precisely the fact people are not challenging surveillance, flock cameras, capitalism, and violators of consent that harassment like this is institutionalized. Violations don't occur overnight. It predates slowly, hunts, and makes itself systemic. Trump & MAGA are a symptom of systemic predation.
Now tell neighbors if they are ok being quartered by a predator. Because essentially, 
has been a predation paradise since forever.
That argument sounds an awful lot like: look at what she was wearing. Victim blaming is gross.
Normalize smashing pervert glasses on sight (while still on face).
- Corporation makes evil thing.
- Evil people use evil thing.
Thereās enough blame to go around, donāt worry.
If my hypothetical daughter came home and told me about this, I would raise hell.
If things escalated, I might even go so far as to track down the district superintendent in public wearing a pair and confront them about whey they weren't doing anything about it.
Sometimes, you just need to talk to the right people.
Interesting that youš«µ even need a daughter to āraise hellā with these harassers already harming othersā daughters.
But do agree in one thing, Meta isn't the schoolsā children's parents.
And sometimes the people who should be the right people turn out to be stupid people or too burned out to care any more. And then you need to turn to voting, and gather enough people and keep their attention focused to try to outweigh the millions of dollars in donations coming in from the Pro-Pervert Glasses PACs.
And then... ever seen Falling Down? I'm pretty sure that's the next step.
As terrifying as it is to finally merge the classical and cyber bullying space, that merely represents the creativity and capability of a child. No company has or ever will secure user data. Hyperbullying is very tame compared to the abuse having access to the perception of almost every single student in almost every high school at almost any time allows for. Social media is obliterating kids enough, they really don't need AI enhanced tech bro perverts teaming up with Hyperbullies to create the ultimate predatory environment on top of everything...
So basically, yeah it seems like we're in Hell right now and we certainly are in the thick of it, but don't worry. There's many more depths of horrors beyond mortal comprehension we can fall to.
On an adjacently related note, it must be impossibly frustrating to write about anything involving minors nowadays since you can't say any of the victim/perpetrator names or link to any of the footage. So the whole article has to use indirect evidence, pronouns, vague suggestions, and nondescript abstractions to describe anything, which makes the whole article sound like it could be some AI response from a prompt about an AI generated rage-bait trend.
I do believe that a human writer wrote this to the best of their ability using the facts they have available, but the form their prose must take because of required censorship laws can very easily allow for people to argue the whole thing is AI generated slop and ignore it.
How did you make the text so big. Tell me right now.
if you start your line with "# " it'll make the text large
nice
KIDS KEEP IT DOWN!
oh thank you this is cool
Edit: you have to have a space after the #
This is the same argument they had with guns. If girls had their own pervert glasses, they could record the harassment going on. Similar to "if they had a gun, they could defend themselves" I genuinely hate that this is the hot button for a country that represents me than 10 percent of the global population. Let this place rot.
Or with biggering cars. "Just buy the bigger, more expensive one!"
Sorry, I'm OOTL: why are they called pervert glasses?
š And now they're going to have put a school wide notice saying no smart glasses and then they're gonna have people disobey that and not bring a back up pair and then their parents are gonna have to come out of work to bring them not smart glasses.
Nothing that can't be solved with an "OK" punch, right?
Who is in school in mid August?
Teen Boys Are Using Meta Pervert Glasses to Harass and Bully Girls at High Schools and Middle Schools
clickbait gender wars bs? I guess we're sliding back to reddit tier now?
Sounds more like a genuine problem of misogyny with the invasion of privacy and harassment of teenage girls.
Of course teen boys have always perved about teen girls and always will, for at least a short phase each. They're supposed to grow up and learn to behave better, by having that behavior punished with scorn from grown men and their wiser peers, but instead it's being reinforced and rewarded by an algorithm (and also the army of degenerate pervs online)
I'm not saying there's not a misogyny problem. Its the same old repeat divide and conquer playbook that I have issue with. You can see it all over the internet. We will never solve the root issue if we keep feeding this clickbait b.s. Purely designed to get people frothing at the mouth, its shitty "men bad" journalism.
@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Welcome! This is a community for all those who are interested in protecting their privacy.
Rules
PS: Don't be a smartass and try to game the system, we'll know if you're breaking the rules when we see it!
- Be civil and no prejudice
- Don't promote big-tech software
- No apathy and defeatism for privacy (i.e. "They already have my data, why bother?")
- No reposting of news that was already posted
- No crypto, blockchain, NFTs
- No Xitter links (if absolutely necessary, use xcancel)
Related communities:
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@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Welcome! This is a community for all those who are interested in protecting their privacy.
Rules
PS: Don't be a smartass and try to game the system, we'll know if you're breaking the rules when we see it!
- Be civil and no prejudice
- Don't promote big-tech software
- No apathy and defeatism for privacy (i.e. "They already have my data, why bother?")
- No reposting of news that was already posted
- No crypto, blockchain, NFTs
- No Xitter links (if absolutely necessary, use xcancel)
Related communities:
Some of these are only vaguely related, but great communities.
go to feed...
Uh, why the fuck would such a device ever be allowed on school property?
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